BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions
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But what is...
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It has a nice ring, but I for one am not to sure what that means, and can manage to remain within the laws of the land.
WW should just go
nuclear.
nuclear.
It has a nice ring, but I for one am not to sure what that means, and can manage to remain within the laws of the land.
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I am a strong opponent to these BASSA strikes.
It does concern me, however, that apparently again large numbers (even if a minority of all CC) voted for strike action by not accepting the offer.
It must be clear that many are genuinely worried about their future work and/or income.
The question is: Are these CC worried about losing perks they should have always been entitled to (in which case their strikes are acceptable) or are they moving on to the next strike over perks they should never have had in the first place (in an open economy) and which were obtained by over-zealous Unions thinking they were suitable to run companies?
On the CC thread there is now active aggression in the sense of people calling cc staff just waitresses. I hope these comments will NOT be removed by the mods, as they are a clear sign of frustration by either co workers within BA and/or SLF. They clearly form part of the debate, however unpleasant they may be.
Comments are made about CC staff not being a product-critical component of the airline (such as pilots and engineers). It seems to show at least part of this readership is totally fed up with CC's strike actions.
So here we have it..... Some CC fighting for what they feel they are entitled to and other interested parties vilifying them....
It is the state of BA's CC world.
One thing is for sure, whatever the solution is, it had better come quickly as this battle must be killing for the atmosphere within BA and could lead to some of the best (CC) staff leaving to start working in a more positive environment, leaving only the disgruntled behind...
It could well be that WW's drive comes from this need for a rapid resolution either way, in other words that it s about more than just money.
It does concern me, however, that apparently again large numbers (even if a minority of all CC) voted for strike action by not accepting the offer.
It must be clear that many are genuinely worried about their future work and/or income.
The question is: Are these CC worried about losing perks they should have always been entitled to (in which case their strikes are acceptable) or are they moving on to the next strike over perks they should never have had in the first place (in an open economy) and which were obtained by over-zealous Unions thinking they were suitable to run companies?
On the CC thread there is now active aggression in the sense of people calling cc staff just waitresses. I hope these comments will NOT be removed by the mods, as they are a clear sign of frustration by either co workers within BA and/or SLF. They clearly form part of the debate, however unpleasant they may be.
Comments are made about CC staff not being a product-critical component of the airline (such as pilots and engineers). It seems to show at least part of this readership is totally fed up with CC's strike actions.
So here we have it..... Some CC fighting for what they feel they are entitled to and other interested parties vilifying them....
It is the state of BA's CC world.
One thing is for sure, whatever the solution is, it had better come quickly as this battle must be killing for the atmosphere within BA and could lead to some of the best (CC) staff leaving to start working in a more positive environment, leaving only the disgruntled behind...
It could well be that WW's drive comes from this need for a rapid resolution either way, in other words that it s about more than just money.
This will be the third occasion that my plans are threatened by BA CC.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, ... You can't get fooled again.
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could lead to some of the best (CC) staff leaving to start working in a more positive environment
It does concern me, however, that apparently again large numbers (even if a minority of all CC) voted for strike action by not accepting the offer.
It must be clear that many are genuinely worried about their future work and/or income.
It must be clear that many are genuinely worried about their future work and/or income.
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Volunteers
I, for one, will be rather glad when all the "volunteers" are trained up and BA can return to some sort of normality with respect to it's Customer Service. I assume that some of them are away from their desks "volunteering" ?
I was caught in the first great Ash debacle and required a simple letter detailing my loss for insurance purposes , to date I am still waiting !
(Some) CC have a lot to answer for
I was caught in the first great Ash debacle and required a simple letter detailing my loss for insurance purposes , to date I am still waiting !
(Some) CC have a lot to answer for
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It could certainly involve making all existing cabin crew positions redundant and introducing new positions with a different payscale, allowing people to re-apply for these new jobs, which have new T&Cs.
Given (a) the recent volcano induced financial losses and (b) the impact of the ongoing industrial action on the brand (which is getting serious damage), I imagine BA would be able to state quite reasonably that a business crisis forced this action.
It has a nice ring, but I for one am not to sure what that means, and can manage to remain within the laws of the land.
Given (a) the recent volcano induced financial losses and (b) the impact of the ongoing industrial action on the brand (which is getting serious damage), I imagine BA would be able to state quite reasonably that a business crisis forced this action.
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We have a saying in Texas;
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, ... You can't get fooled again
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, ... You can't get fooled again
I wonder now, that if the strike goes ahead and maybe the two YVR flights are reduced to one. If my J-class miles upgrade gets a low priority and I'm booted back to WT+.
I guess i have to just wait and see. I'm verging on the idea that a flight cancellation and a refund are the preferable options right now.
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Tin67:
I believe that etrang was being humorous.
The actual saying is:
What was posted above was from a speech our past President gave where he mangled the phrase.
I believe that etrang was being humorous.
The actual saying is:
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
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Some very good news for BA today.
British Airways fuel price-fixing trial collapses
BBC News - British Airways fuel price-fixing trial collapses
British Airways fuel price-fixing trial collapses
BBC News - British Airways fuel price-fixing trial collapses
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Entaxei: Or in the words of the 'Late, Great, Al Capone'
Once is Happenstance
Twice is Circumstance
Third Time is Enemy Action
Once is Happenstance
Twice is Circumstance
Third Time is Enemy Action
I thought that was Ian Fleming, in 'Goldfinger'.
Except he said that twice was coincidence.
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British Airways staff to meet union for strike talks | Business | guardian.co.uk
If this is true, they are so stupid it's almost laughable.
I can see a whole load more resignations from BASSA happening when that gets read. No hiding place for 20 days is there? It's fish or cut bait to the loonies that vote for a strike but have done their best to avoid actually striking.
It truly is turkeys voting for Christmas
If this is true, they are so stupid it's almost laughable.
I can see a whole load more resignations from BASSA happening when that gets read. No hiding place for 20 days is there? It's fish or cut bait to the loonies that vote for a strike but have done their best to avoid actually striking.
It truly is turkeys voting for Christmas
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No hiding place for 20 days is there?
There will be no easy out with that schedule. My personal prediction is that even fewer numbers strike. I can't imagine that many individuals will be willing to sacrifice their well-being for Mr. Holley.
It certainly doesn't help Unite that Labour is the odd-man out in the government at the moment.
I believe we should consider the fact that BASSA is asking for this length of strike to force their membership into a "you're either with us or against us" situation. The difference between their votes and actually striking numbers has had to be a source of great frustration for the union.
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15 to 20 days..!
The announcement of the strike is the damage, not just, or even so much as, the actual strike itself.
You would have to question the judgement of anyone who took the risk of a flight with BA for the duration of the summer, really…
You would have to question the judgement of anyone who took the risk of a flight with BA for the duration of the summer, really…
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I am booked to go to Hong Kong on the 29th May this was BA's last chance for me, I will give them till tomorrow and see what happens but I for sure am not going to book again.
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Some comments that allude to BA's management having no endgame are risible. Throughout this deplorable dispute they have shown wisdom, restraint and a determined ability to out-think, out-plan,also generate and direct resources worthy of the finest generals
The intransigence of unresponsive cabin crew has only one conclusion, dismissal.
It would not surprise me, if substantial numbers of cabin crew are cowed or coerced into striking this time that a total re-organisation of the company could take place. Any newly formed company, whilst retaining loyal staff, would be enabled to clear out the unemployable, unenthusiastic discontents for good!
The intransigence of unresponsive cabin crew has only one conclusion, dismissal.
It would not surprise me, if substantial numbers of cabin crew are cowed or coerced into striking this time that a total re-organisation of the company could take place. Any newly formed company, whilst retaining loyal staff, would be enabled to clear out the unemployable, unenthusiastic discontents for good!
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I'm of a different mind.
I'll will continue to book with BA as long as BA continues to make progress in their attempts to rein in BASSA.
That approach would change if I observed BA acquiesing to BASSA's demands to run the airline. If BA and its rather wonderful employees are willing to fight the good fight I, and the companies I'm associated with, will be there.
I'll will continue to book with BA as long as BA continues to make progress in their attempts to rein in BASSA.
That approach would change if I observed BA acquiesing to BASSA's demands to run the airline. If BA and its rather wonderful employees are willing to fight the good fight I, and the companies I'm associated with, will be there.