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@ Lou Scannon ... VS are doing a sale at the moment [travel up to end-Sep], and BA are having an un-publicised one that matches the price. Obviously it depends on where you need to fly, but that did it for me 
A bit of keyboard time, and a phone call to BA ExeClub, sorted.
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A bit of keyboard time, and a phone call to BA ExeClub, sorted.
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Is this Liz Malone in the clip?
2.40 into the clip a mystery blonde appears......... Is this LAX Liz? If it is I may hve to revise my, ill informed, previously held opinion 
YouTube - BA Contingency Plan Holding Up During Strike
YouTube - BA Contingency Plan Holding Up During Strike
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I would just like to say that I travelled out on the 3rd day of the second strike, prior to leaving Customer Services and Ground staff - splendid
Cabin Crew a mix of regulars, pilot[s] volunteers - splendid
reurned yesterday - regular cabin crew - splendid.
Just wanted to say thank you.
Cabin Crew a mix of regulars, pilot[s] volunteers - splendid
reurned yesterday - regular cabin crew - splendid.
Just wanted to say thank you.
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A bit of keyboard time, and a phone call to BA ExeClub, sorted.
I reckon you'll be enjoying your upcoming IAD trip, free of any interference from the rapidly decreasing Bassa membership.
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What-ho, Finky!
Not a secret - much scribbling on "Another Forum" on that subject!
I'm comfortable with the prospects for the IAD sector - too many Govt people travelling on that one.
"BA/BASSA starts WW3?"
I don't think there's any risk!
Not a secret - much scribbling on "Another Forum" on that subject!
I'm comfortable with the prospects for the IAD sector - too many Govt people travelling on that one.
"BA/BASSA starts WW3?"
I don't think there's any risk!
etc?
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IAD - Washington Dulles
NBO - Nairobi International
LOL - Laugh out Loud or Derby Field, Nevada
On a separate point does BASSA have to give BA 7 days notice again before the next round of strikes. So for example if one was going to Pheonix on 16 Apr, in order for a strike to disrupt it, they must be announced by 8 Apr ie Thursday.
What has happened to CC89? They always played David Steel to BASSAs David Owen (I was a spitting Image fan) but they seem to have disappeared completely.
Regards
IAD - Washington Dulles
NBO - Nairobi International
LOL - Laugh out Loud
or Derby Field, Nevada On a separate point does BASSA have to give BA 7 days notice again before the next round of strikes. So for example if one was going to Pheonix on 16 Apr, in order for a strike to disrupt it, they must be announced by 8 Apr ie Thursday.
What has happened to CC89? They always played David Steel to BASSAs David Owen (I was a spitting Image fan) but they seem to have disappeared completely.
Regards
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does BASSA have to give BA 7 days notice again before the next round of strikes. So for example if one was going to Pheonix on 16 Apr, in order for a strike to disrupt it, they must be announced by 8 Apr ie Thursday.
What has happened to CC89? They always played David Steel to BASSAs David Owen (I was a spitting Image fan) but they seem to have disappeared completely.
Regards
What has happened to CC89? They always played David Steel to BASSAs David Owen (I was a spitting Image fan) but they seem to have disappeared completely.
Regards
2)CC89 were absorbed into the BASSA/UNITE machine sometime ago. Interestingly some independent thinking crew in despair of the representation options available to them, have started up The Professional CrewCouncil, (PCC) which is how CC89 originally started. PCC hasnt gained official recognition from the airline (yet), but from what i hear, is attracting ever increasing support from disillusioned crew.
BTW (By The Way), as a non flying member of BA staff, i want to say a HUGE thank you to the customers who are continuing to support us by booking BA. The vast majority of staff, crew and non crew, want simply to offer you the best service we can and value you as our customers.
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Is this Liz Malone in the clip?
2.40 into the clip a mystery blonde appears......... Is this LAX Liz? If it is I may hve to revise my, ill informed, previously held opinion
2.40 into the clip a mystery blonde appears......... Is this LAX Liz? If it is I may hve to revise my, ill informed, previously held opinion
Here's a picture: The BA comrade out in California: £50,000 a year union activist who lives in LA and hasn't flown for a year | Mail Online
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Good Article
Well worth a read The strikes at British Airways: Maintaining altitude | The Economist
Easy to see why UNITE cannot win this one, 20 days to train a CC and 3 days for a VCC.
Thanks again to all the CC and VCC on my recent trips to SFO and LAX during the strike, excellent service in difficult cirumstances.
Easy to see why UNITE cannot win this one, 20 days to train a CC and 3 days for a VCC.
Thanks again to all the CC and VCC on my recent trips to SFO and LAX during the strike, excellent service in difficult cirumstances.
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Strangely enough the Bassa statement to which you refer has been removed from the other thread. Maybe it was too long.
However, it does look as though Bassa are determined to carry on along their destructive path. It will be interesting to see if the Unite hierarchy have a different game plan, in light of the forthcoming election.
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In fact Unite have just announced that talks with BA are continuing & that any future strikes are on hold.
However, it does look as though Bassa are determined to carry on along their destructive path. It will be interesting to see if the Unite hierarchy have a different game plan, in light of the forthcoming election.
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In fact Unite have just announced that talks with BA are continuing & that any future strikes are on hold.
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Shamelessly nicked from the "official" thread....
(my bold)
But will BASSA agree with Mr Woodley's assessment I wonder?
It seeems to me that this announcement has pulled the rug from under BASSA's feet* with regard to further strike action.
*On the assumption that there is indeed a split between BASSA and Unite, as many on here have suggested.
Talks between Unite the union and British Airways aimed at resolving the cabin crew dispute resumed over the Easter weekend and are continuing, the union said today (Wednesday).
Joint general secretary Tony Woodley said: “It is welcome that talks have resumed and I am pleased that some serious progress has been made over the issues which have divided us.
“However, there is more work to be done, and further discussions will take place with the company over the next few days. I reported to representatives of our cabin crew today and explained that it would be unnecessary to set further strike dates while these talks are continuing and making progress.”
Joint general secretary Tony Woodley said: “It is welcome that talks have resumed and I am pleased that some serious progress has been made over the issues which have divided us.
“However, there is more work to be done, and further discussions will take place with the company over the next few days. I reported to representatives of our cabin crew today and explained that it would be unnecessary to set further strike dates while these talks are continuing and making progress.”
But will BASSA agree with Mr Woodley's assessment I wonder?
It seeems to me that this announcement has pulled the rug from under BASSA's feet* with regard to further strike action.
*On the assumption that there is indeed a split between BASSA and Unite, as many on here have suggested.
You may well be right baggers.
Unfortunately, the BASSA rep once again fails to spell out exactly what it is they are not prepared to give up (Surely the CSD's former ability on certain LHR flights to put their feet up cannot be it? 
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The reps who have flown have been greatly encouraged by the response of all the crew who are saying "if that is what Walsh wants - then bring it on because I will not be browbeaten, bullied or blackmailed into giving up something I care for and which I am entitled to fight for".
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Just back in .... interesting updates there, for which thank you all.
The disconnect between Unite and BASSA simply had to happen, IMO. There is no way the [current] PM could go into a General Election with their financial supporter being involved in this nonsense. I look forward to seeing the BASSA leadership and their militants hung out to dry, although I do have some sympathy for the CC who have charged blindly into the unknown ... however, being terminally stupid is not an offence under Common Law.
Good luck to all the rest at BA.
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The disconnect between Unite and BASSA simply had to happen, IMO. There is no way the [current] PM could go into a General Election with their financial supporter being involved in this nonsense. I look forward to seeing the BASSA leadership and their militants hung out to dry, although I do have some sympathy for the CC who have charged blindly into the unknown ... however, being terminally stupid is not an offence under Common Law.
Good luck to all the rest at BA.
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Thanks for the reply on TLA, sorry it was a little off thread, but it helps my understanding.
Have you seen on the BA/BASSA thread the mod FlapsForty has taken off all of todays earlier input! Well it was getting quite heated and IMO juvenile. Perhaps a sign of the pressure build up. Let's hope cooler heads prevail.
Have you seen on the BA/BASSA thread the mod FlapsForty has taken off all of todays earlier input! Well it was getting quite heated and IMO juvenile. Perhaps a sign of the pressure build up. Let's hope cooler heads prevail.
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i missed much of the afternoon input, sadly, although I caught some of it.
FlapsForty and other are having a nightmare time trying to keep that Thread on the rails, and it's hardly surprising. Apart from the 'political' differences, people have their livelihoods at stake [or not, depending on you position]. No wonder things get a bit heated.
@ baggers ... the CSD is the one who borrocks my wife when her seat is u/s and won't go fully vertical.
They emerge from their coffins occasionally
Unfair, of course, because I'm sure there are some very good CSDs out there - but they are being tainted by the "chosen few" at LHR. Which is another good reason for BA to move on.
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FlapsForty and other are having a nightmare time trying to keep that Thread on the rails, and it's hardly surprising. Apart from the 'political' differences, people have their livelihoods at stake [or not, depending on you position]. No wonder things get a bit heated.
@ baggers ... the CSD is the one who borrocks my wife when her seat is u/s and won't go fully vertical.
They emerge from their coffins occasionally
Unfair, of course, because I'm sure there are some very good CSDs out there - but they are being tainted by the "chosen few" at LHR. Which is another good reason for BA to move on.
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So the BASSA secretary is sending a memo talking about catering at Bedfont for the next strike, and the Unite officials are announcing no further strike dates whilst talks reconvene.
One can begin to see the disconnect between the various parties. Not same hymn page, etc.
One can begin to see the disconnect between the various parties. Not same hymn page, etc.
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perhaps Miss Malone is already considering calling some of her supposed "victims" "The Cranebank twelve" or something similar in the hope of attracting sympathy.
Oh no - silly me - a BASSA stooge is already calling himself that.
[Back to the drawing board!]