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The 'daily mail' may well be pro BA, but I do not see any newspaper that is pro Bassa/unite, other than the 'socialist'. Could this be because Bassa/unite have no case to fight?
Once he has achieved that aim, as he surely will, then he will set about ensuring that the standards of service will once again become world beating. I also firmly believe that is achievable because he already has the tools in place, namely the BA CC. Remove the relatively few bad apples & things will eventually return to normal. The majority of strikers will soon get over their disappointment at losing because they will be relieved to still have a job. Those that don't will join the dole queue.
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there is nothing in your last post that I can only agree with, however i still wonder as to how those militant bassa Ba CC will move forward, other than being removed... I do believe that is the way forward for Ba... time will tell.
there is nothing in your last post that I can only agree with, however i still wonder as to how those militant bassa Ba CC will move forward, other than being removed... I do believe that is the way forward for Ba... time will tell.
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First flight after strikes
I am flying Club World on Thursday so it will be very interesting to see what the crew attitude will be like and whether there is any negative atmosphere onboard.
I certainly hope I'll receive the service you'd expect in this cabin, if not I may take some notes.
I certainly hope I'll receive the service you'd expect in this cabin, if not I may take some notes.
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This could very well be part of BASSA and the militants plan to use "guerilla tactics" against BA and its customers as threatened earlier.
I have no doubt that BA and its employees will be anticipating these sorts of actions and will take immediate, firm and appropriate action.
The militants would serve themselves well to simply return to work as professionals and not draw attention to themselves. Unfortunately I believe there are a few who will find that sort of reasonable behavior quite impossible.
The majority of Cabin Crew and BA management will have no tolerance as BASSA may soon discover.
This could very well be part of BASSA and the militants plan to use "guerilla tactics" against BA and its customers as threatened earlier.
I have no doubt that BA and its employees will be anticipating these sorts of actions and will take immediate, firm and appropriate action.
The militants would serve themselves well to simply return to work as professionals and not draw attention to themselves. Unfortunately I believe there are a few who will find that sort of reasonable behavior quite impossible.
The majority of Cabin Crew and BA management will have no tolerance as BASSA may soon discover.
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Reading about possible sabotage on the other thread makes me wonder if I should ever fly with these guys again....
Seriously though, these are stupid actions by some idiot who I'm sure will be found & disciplined accordingly.
If we all walk away from BA then the bullies win, albeit without a job to go to!
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On what planet are these international "commuters" living on exactly?
We'd all love to live in the south of France or Spain and have London wages and free air travel to and from work, but it's a tad impractical.
Are they expecting sympathy from the wider public by using these people as sob stories to get staff travel reinstated?
We'd all love to live in the south of France or Spain and have London wages and free air travel to and from work, but it's a tad impractical.
Are they expecting sympathy from the wider public by using these people as sob stories to get staff travel reinstated?
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Financial Times / Daily Telegraph - Monday 7 June
Take a look at the article by Tracy Corrigan in today's Daily Telegraph. She in turn refers to a half page advert Unite took in today's Financial Times.
What bare faced cheek to use a respected City figure out of context. Just shows that Unite/Bassa cannot ever ever be trusted to cut a workable, sustainable deal with BA other than on their terms. Keep going WW this hard core group of give nothing diehards must never be allowed to don a BA uniform again!
What bare faced cheek to use a respected City figure out of context. Just shows that Unite/Bassa cannot ever ever be trusted to cut a workable, sustainable deal with BA other than on their terms. Keep going WW this hard core group of give nothing diehards must never be allowed to don a BA uniform again!
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Some of the sabotage incidents that are being reported dont sound like the action of an individual. "tea and coffee bags had been torn, sugar sachets torn and emptied, eye wash removed, liquor bars were virtually empty (including back-ups) and threatening notes hidden in the jumpseats"
While i have no doubt it is a minority involved it reflects badly on all. unfortunately that is all ways the way of the world..100 good deeds can be overshadowed by one bad one. If BASSA are advocating geurilla tactics like these its just another nail in their coffin probably judicially and publicly.
While i have no doubt it is a minority involved it reflects badly on all. unfortunately that is all ways the way of the world..100 good deeds can be overshadowed by one bad one. If BASSA are advocating geurilla tactics like these its just another nail in their coffin probably judicially and publicly.
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Just shows that Unite/Bassa cannot ever ever be trusted to cut a workable, sustainable deal with BA other than on their terms
Some of the sabotage incidents that are being reported dont sound like the action of an individual. "tea and coffee bags had been torn, sugar sachets torn and emptied, eye wash removed, liquor bars were virtually empty (including back-ups) and threatening notes hidden in the jumpseats
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I would have thought that any single bad apple carrying out incidents like this would be seen or noticed by another member of the CC..ie not an individual.
I was not attempting to tar all CC with the same brush, but the actions of a minority will impact on the perception of the whole. If a PAX boarded a flight and found something not right who would get the blame in their eyes?
Even the current dispute is unclear to the majority of members of the public they see headlines of BA cabin crew on strike and to them it appears as if they all are.
Details are slowly coming out educating and allready Anti-CC striker public, but until everyone is fully informed, it would be silly to dismiss such sabotague actions as irellevant.
I was not attempting to tar all CC with the same brush, but the actions of a minority will impact on the perception of the whole. If a PAX boarded a flight and found something not right who would get the blame in their eyes?
Even the current dispute is unclear to the majority of members of the public they see headlines of BA cabin crew on strike and to them it appears as if they all are.
Details are slowly coming out educating and allready Anti-CC striker public, but until everyone is fully informed, it would be silly to dismiss such sabotague actions as irellevant.
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Even the current dispute is unclear to the majority of members of the public they see headlines of BA cabin crew on strike and to them it appears as if they all are.
Details are slowly coming out educating an already Anti-CC striker public, but until everyone is fully informed, it would be silly to dismiss such sabotage actions as relevant.
Details are slowly coming out educating an already Anti-CC striker public, but until everyone is fully informed, it would be silly to dismiss such sabotage actions as relevant.
That Unite advert in the Financial times(discussed here) is pathetic, and quite how Unite/BASSA think that such antics will benefit their side in any way is hard to fathom. If they want to put their side across in a believable article to intelligent people, heading it "Brutish Airways" is hardly going to start things off in the right fashion. "BA don't know the value of crew like me" would perhaps have gained some support if used in a sensible, retrained piece, but what value would be considered by shareholders to employees who describe their employers in the headline terms used?
Pathetic, and yet another publicity own goal.
Pathetic, and yet another publicity own goal.
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Link to Tracy Corrigans Article
TruBlu123 posted at 2148 'Take a look at the article by Tracy Corrigan in today's Daily Telegraph'
It can be found here Why Unite is (not very) appealing to BA shareholders – Telegraph Blogs
And interesting reading it makes. Thank you TB
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It can be found here Why Unite is (not very) appealing to BA shareholders – Telegraph Blogs
And interesting reading it makes. Thank you TB
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I notice that the UNITE page to which the author refers contains this carefully worded BASSA/UNITE LIE:
Absolute BS, and what paltry savings they did offer were temporary.
Investors aren't dumb enough to buy this kind of guano.
BA cabin crew offered changes to pay and working practices that would have made savings of more than £100 million for British Airways, but the company rejected these proposals and repeatedly walked away from talks while introducing provocative changes.
Investors aren't dumb enough to buy this kind of guano.
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All well in T5
Writing this from T5 South Galleries lounge where it seems very much business as normal today. Having walked through the rest of the terminal it appears as busy as any Non strike day. Staff are smiling and helpful and flights seem to be running very much to schedule.
I can see from my check in that the club cabins upsatirs and down are well populated which should more than cover the costs of the flight so at least it will be profitable for BA.
I am looking forward to being served by committed staff supporting their employer through very difficult times.
There is really no indication here that there is a strike on other than it is reported in some of the press.
This does not bode well for the hard core BASSA luddites who have led their members open eyed into this disaster.
I can see from my check in that the club cabins upsatirs and down are well populated which should more than cover the costs of the flight so at least it will be profitable for BA.
I am looking forward to being served by committed staff supporting their employer through very difficult times.
There is really no indication here that there is a strike on other than it is reported in some of the press.
This does not bode well for the hard core BASSA luddites who have led their members open eyed into this disaster.
The union website also contains useful further evidence should BA perchance be considering legal action against Unite for misrepresentation/damages. Providing false information to shareholders is most definately worthy of legal action should BA choose to use it.
PS. Does anyone else think that the "actress" in the cc uniform scowling in the Unite ad perfectly fits their mental image of a BA striker?
PS. Does anyone else think that the "actress" in the cc uniform scowling in the Unite ad perfectly fits their mental image of a BA striker?
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Investors aren't dumb enough to buy this kind of guano.
You are quite correct and this article is an example of, once again, Unite/BASSA simply not having the ability or sophistication to effectively communicate to anyone other than individuals who share their militant tendencies.
Unite/BASSA are simply desperate to get someone to save them but this clumsy appeal to shareholders will not gain their position any traction, quite the opposite.
The militant portion of BASSA should be aware that BA is taking these actions WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT AND APPROVAL OF INVESTORS. If they had wished to maintain any sort of credibility perhaps they should not have spoken of using "guerilla tactics" against the airline and its customers, and kept images of Mr. Walsh off of their gluteus maximus.