Uk Airport Chaos (hand wringing thread)
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Isn't it curious that the UK Government waited until Tony Bliar had flown off on his holiday before launching the operation......can't have Tony held up can they!! 
The other problem is that the Home Secretary, John Reed, has no credibility with a large number of people, so why let him loose on the media, with an insincere broadcast.
The other problem is that the Home Secretary, John Reed, has no credibility with a large number of people, so why let him loose on the media, with an insincere broadcast.
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Originally Posted by EPRman
Quote from the TV news: "All those arrested are British born Muslims".
Why should we all suffer? Why not simply ban Muslims from taking bags onto the aeroplane? When they're inconvenienced like this, the majority of law abiding Muslims might then do something about the Islamonazi minority in this country. Maybe then the Muslim community 'leaders' and Imams may actually start to condemn those who preach hatred and start to rein them in. Before the liberals amongst you start accusing me of Islamophobia and the rest of the nonsense we have to put up with in this country, remember it's not Christians, Seikhs, Buddhists and the rest who are plotting to blow up aeroplanes and threatening death and destruction to the West. For a so called peaceful religion Islam is very big on death and killing.
Why should we all suffer? Why not simply ban Muslims from taking bags onto the aeroplane? When they're inconvenienced like this, the majority of law abiding Muslims might then do something about the Islamonazi minority in this country. Maybe then the Muslim community 'leaders' and Imams may actually start to condemn those who preach hatred and start to rein them in. Before the liberals amongst you start accusing me of Islamophobia and the rest of the nonsense we have to put up with in this country, remember it's not Christians, Seikhs, Buddhists and the rest who are plotting to blow up aeroplanes and threatening death and destruction to the West. For a so called peaceful religion Islam is very big on death and killing.
This now stinks. I read two papers from yesterday and one from this morning. All highlight Doctorer Reid's intentions to "re-new anti-terror laws". He's a spineless coward that only got to this position because he was one of the select few who agreed with Blair's idiotic war.
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Originally Posted by IB4138
Isn't it curious that the UK Government waited until Tony Bliar had flown off on his holiday before launching the operation......can't have Tony held up can they!!
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Superpilot,
I'm certainly not a prat. My post was deliberately simplistic, but I think most can see the point. I think it's safe to assume that Mr and Mrs Smith off to Tenerife for a week with their three kids are not going to blow up aeroplanes.
Regards.
I'm certainly not a prat. My post was deliberately simplistic, but I think most can see the point. I think it's safe to assume that Mr and Mrs Smith off to Tenerife for a week with their three kids are not going to blow up aeroplanes.
Regards.
You are 100% correct Superpilot
However, the overwhelming majority of terrorist atrocities originate from Muslim Groups.
This is where the problem lies for Muslims worldwide. Whether they like it or not, they will all be viewed as potential terrorists.
What steps will they take to avoid this.
Not all Muslims are brown coloured and black bearded, ya prat
This is where the problem lies for Muslims worldwide. Whether they like it or not, they will all be viewed as potential terrorists.
What steps will they take to avoid this.
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Not all Muslims are brown coloured and black bearded, ya prat
Originally Posted by EPRman
Quote from the TV news: "All those arrested are British born Muslims".
Why should we all suffer? Why not simply ban Muslims from taking bags onto the aeroplane?
Why should we all suffer? Why not simply ban Muslims from taking bags onto the aeroplane?
Security screener: Are you muslim
Terrorist: No, mate, i'm catholic.
Security screener: OK, on you go.
Or do you want all muslims to be tattooed on the forehead at birth? Which still wouldn't have stopped Richard Reid the shoe bomber.
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the overwhelming majority of terrorist atrocities originate from Muslim Groups
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“The impact on Ryanair and others will be interestng to observe, bye bye 20 minute turnarounds for the time being, methinks.”
To go back to this point, I doubt it will be that much of a problem for the aircraft, as all the checks are taking place in the terminal. The final check at the gate only applies to US flights atm.
BA & FR shares both down 3-4% atm, but I'm sure they will recover quite quickly once the threat status subsides.
Luoto:
“Surely with integration there is no community leader... after all, if it is a white British person they don't go and tell the priest do they ?”
Excellent point.
To go back to this point, I doubt it will be that much of a problem for the aircraft, as all the checks are taking place in the terminal. The final check at the gate only applies to US flights atm.
BA & FR shares both down 3-4% atm, but I'm sure they will recover quite quickly once the threat status subsides.
Luoto:
“Surely with integration there is no community leader... after all, if it is a white British person they don't go and tell the priest do they ?”
Excellent point.
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its all about detonation..
A remote detonator would be easy to spot by security, the baggage carts as well as taking a small brunt of any explosion would also act as a faraday cage and hopefully block a mobile signal. Hand assembly and detonation would be the method of choice.
Originally Posted by Boing7117
The news is reporting that possessions brought by passengers are being transferred into the hold.
Apart from the fact that this prevents hand luggage from being in the cabin - is there a real safety reason why everything should go in the 'belly' of the plane?
i.e. should a device be smuggled into the hold that could be detonated - is there more chance of the crew being able to land an aircraft rather than it occurring in the cabin? (i.e. is the hold designed to withstand an explosion to a greater degree than where the pax sit?)
Apart from the fact that this prevents hand luggage from being in the cabin - is there a real safety reason why everything should go in the 'belly' of the plane?
i.e. should a device be smuggled into the hold that could be detonated - is there more chance of the crew being able to land an aircraft rather than it occurring in the cabin? (i.e. is the hold designed to withstand an explosion to a greater degree than where the pax sit?)
the overwhelming majority of terrorist atrocities originate from Muslim Groups
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Political correctness
In afraid our political correctness ….our fear of upsetting minority groups is going to get some of us killed. As I see it the Terrorist all come from one such group and Restrictions need to be put on them .Until we see some better self policing of these groups then I am in favor of more draconian government measures. I will as everyone feel for the moderates, but we are at war…make no mistake about that. If this continues and we don’t take a harder stance…… they will get lucky…….
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I think most free thinking, sentient human beings, would pretty much understand what is being said.
I am in favor of more draconian government measures
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Arkroyal But do you know what a British Muslim looks like?
IFIRC the shoe bomber was a convert to Islam so under your criteria he would get through
IFIRC the shoe bomber was a convert to Islam so under your criteria he would get through
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Only yesterday the Muslim community were complaining that the police were victimising them with stop and search.......
Now we know why!
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Now we know why!
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