Uk Airport Chaos (hand wringing thread)
Superpilot this is real life. It is happening to people right now.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Radical solutions require to be taken.
There will will be no time for genteel, correct debate when your aircraft explodes into a fireball, accompanied by background yells of insh'allah.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Radical solutions require to be taken.
There will will be no time for genteel, correct debate when your aircraft explodes into a fireball, accompanied by background yells of insh'allah.
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This "global terror" threat is a great exaggeration of reality. It is being peddled by the chiefs of Western society to keep Western society at the front of world dominance. It is for you and in a **** kind of way, I too. The chiefs have to get their dirty hands on the last drops of that precious resource before it's too late. As Dick Cheney once said, "The good Lord didn't see fit to put oil and gas only where there are democratic regimes friendly to the United States."
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Latest 'informed rumours' are that it was anticipated that two separate liquids (probably carried in soft-drink bottles), which, when mixed would become volatile. Nitric acid -> nitro-glycerine.
As screening staff haven't been able to receive specific instruction, ALL fluids have been proscribed.
As screening staff haven't been able to receive specific instruction, ALL fluids have been proscribed.
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN
'Baby milk' has to be sampled before being allowed on board. 
Captains privilege I suppose.What I don't follow is if they ( Police MI5 MI6 et al) have surprised the terrorists before they can carry out the attrocity, why all this stable door shutting now, or are they not certain they have got them all.
No doubt the lawyers will make money out of this
Suing for wrongful arrest, missed flights lost luggage cancelled holidays missed business etc etc.I feel soryy for the ops staff trying to put the wheel back on afterwards and the front desk check in staff who given the normal relaxed manner of SLF at check in will be taking a fearful earbashing over this.
Good luck to you all you deserve a round of applause
(Smileys are rationed to 15)Can't do it round so a line will have to suffice
Be lucky
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laptops are being checked in.This was bound to happen.Have you been following programmes like dispatch on channel 4 in the uk,and sharia tv on channel 148 on cable?
This is going to be going on for some time,and I personally cannot understand the anger of the perpetrators despite the great lives they leive in the UK.
Just crazy.
This is going to be going on for some time,and I personally cannot understand the anger of the perpetrators despite the great lives they leive in the UK.
Just crazy.
Stop being so soppy.
We all know about the rights and wrongs relating to Bush's "Great War on Terrorism" Many of us are disgusted about what is taking place in Lebanon.
In times of serious crisis it is wise the think globally but act locally and that is how I feel right now
We all know about the rights and wrongs relating to Bush's "Great War on Terrorism" Many of us are disgusted about what is taking place in Lebanon.
In times of serious crisis it is wise the think globally but act locally and that is how I feel right now
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Firstly, well done to the security services for stopping this in its tracks - it's a pretty tough call to make, and you'll probably get flamed which ever way this turned out.
As for the tough security measures in place, I can understand why the pax are being screened so much but the flight crew?
Surely if the flight crew wanted to bring down an aircraft they wouldn't do it with a bottle of medicine, laptop or ham sandwich?
If a pilot has enough security clearance to fly the plane why slap all these other restrictions on them?
As for the tough security measures in place, I can understand why the pax are being screened so much but the flight crew?
Surely if the flight crew wanted to bring down an aircraft they wouldn't do it with a bottle of medicine, laptop or ham sandwich?
If a pilot has enough security clearance to fly the plane why slap all these other restrictions on them?
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Superpilot ….There are casualties on both sides the inevitable result that occurs when people stop talking to each other and start shooting. My problem here is that if steps are not taken by the authorities to isolate this problem then citizens will feel that they have to get involved. That is the last thing we want….
And then Old Enoch will laugh heartily from his grave.
There is nothing in the world we can offer these people as a solution, except the actual world itself.
I for one will never accept the chains and shackles of a recently invented religion. No civilised being would.
There is nothing in the world we can offer these people as a solution, except the actual world itself.
I for one will never accept the chains and shackles of a recently invented religion. No civilised being would.
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Pax Speaking - You mean that the guys (gals) up-front now have to eat the often awful stuff that many airlines offer as "in-flight meals" 
Of course, the major players will be feeding the crew with First-Class scoff, which is usually excellent. But Danny and his colleagues will be suffering one-class food.
As for the Loco pilots - You are probably better off than the second group (above) as at least getting no food means that you will be immune to the risk of food poisoning
Danny - Hope you managed to get home without too much hassle - and back to "the office" for the next duty. Same goes for all the other crews effected. Best hopes for all involved.
Of course, the major players will be feeding the crew with First-Class scoff, which is usually excellent. But Danny and his colleagues will be suffering one-class food.
As for the Loco pilots - You are probably better off than the second group (above) as at least getting no food means that you will be immune to the risk of food poisoning
Danny - Hope you managed to get home without too much hassle - and back to "the office" for the next duty. Same goes for all the other crews effected. Best hopes for all involved.
Spare a thought about the poor bloody Lebanese. I hope the confusion continues until the travelling UK public gets a taste of what life in Beirut must be like. Then maybe they will do something about this war.
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Originally Posted by luoto
Met Police several times in their press conference, communicated to community leaders.. community leaders.
WTF,
Surely with integration there is no community leader... after all, if it is a white British person they don't go and tell the priest do they ?
Serious comment btw. I understand that many "ethnic groups" are also unhappy with these so called and unelected "leaders".
WTF,
Surely with integration there is no community leader... after all, if it is a white British person they don't go and tell the priest do they ?
Serious comment btw. I understand that many "ethnic groups" are also unhappy with these so called and unelected "leaders".
I for one salute the good work of The Met. Ok they've messed up in the past and I for one will not claim they are whiter than white but they appear to have efficiently stopped a significant threat to the UK the US and the aviation industry as a whole.
What bugs me are these so called chaotic scenes at airports due to long waits and no hand luggage. Would these people rather end up in pieces across the Atlantic?
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Take the rhetoric and similar comments to Jet Blast. This thread should be kept clear for information pertaining directly to details directly surrounding todays events. (Sorry if I am treading on any Mods toes).
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Superpilot, whilst I have some sympathy with your position, I would ask you, what would you expect the authorities to do?
Perhaps you feel its easy to sit from the sidelines and pick holes in a fashion that seems to be both ill-informed..or at worst cynical and reactionary.
Whether you agree or disagree with the current government foreign policy, you cant surely be suggesting that innocent lives should be lost to "even up the balance sheet"
My personal position is one of frustration and pity with regards to Lebanon and Iraq, I dont however take the view that the authorities are doing anything more than their job..and that is protecting the public
Perhaps you feel its easy to sit from the sidelines and pick holes in a fashion that seems to be both ill-informed..or at worst cynical and reactionary.
Whether you agree or disagree with the current government foreign policy, you cant surely be suggesting that innocent lives should be lost to "even up the balance sheet"
My personal position is one of frustration and pity with regards to Lebanon and Iraq, I dont however take the view that the authorities are doing anything more than their job..and that is protecting the public
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This guy posting on the BBC web-site found the solution - or maybe not 
"Most air travel is unnecessary, holidays can be taken in the country of origin and many business meetings could be held by video conferencing. We should consider a permit to fly similar to the permit to travel required during the second world war. If passenger numbers were substantially reduced then a much higher level of security inspections would be practicable. Terrorists would have the double deterrent of obtaining a permit and passing tightened security."
"Most air travel is unnecessary, holidays can be taken in the country of origin and many business meetings could be held by video conferencing. We should consider a permit to fly similar to the permit to travel required during the second world war. If passenger numbers were substantially reduced then a much higher level of security inspections would be practicable. Terrorists would have the double deterrent of obtaining a permit and passing tightened security."