Uk Airport Chaos (hand wringing thread)
Speke softly,
What affects passengers enough to turn them away from air travel will DIRECTLY affect aircrew.
When security precautions appear disproportionate and ill-thought to PPL-holding aviation journalists, and when they threaten to cause people like me to seek alternative ways of travelling, there is a real problem, and to say so isn't 'spotterish', nor are these specifically 'pax woes'.
We're both pilots, chum, and we both earn our livings from aviation. I'm an amateur pilot and professional communicator, so I'm a guest here, while you're a professional pilot (one assumes) and an amateur communicator.
I'd welcome all and any advice on flying from a professional flier, but as a professional communicator, I'd gently suggest that a little less arrogance might be appropriate.
What affects passengers enough to turn them away from air travel will DIRECTLY affect aircrew.
When security precautions appear disproportionate and ill-thought to PPL-holding aviation journalists, and when they threaten to cause people like me to seek alternative ways of travelling, there is a real problem, and to say so isn't 'spotterish', nor are these specifically 'pax woes'.
We're both pilots, chum, and we both earn our livings from aviation. I'm an amateur pilot and professional communicator, so I'm a guest here, while you're a professional pilot (one assumes) and an amateur communicator.
I'd welcome all and any advice on flying from a professional flier, but as a professional communicator, I'd gently suggest that a little less arrogance might be appropriate.
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So when I check in my hand luggage into the hold of the Ryanair flight, will I be charged another £2.50 ???? I'm all for security, and it appears that Ryanair are publishing updates at regular intervals, but no mention of additional costs when placing hand baggage into the hold. Anyone have the answer ??
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I suspect if there is any way of getting more cash from you, O'leary will do so.
At least they ARE giving updates. I have a mate flying Lufthansa into UK. Website shows flight on time even though they have announced on national news that all their London flights are cancelled
At least they ARE giving updates. I have a mate flying Lufthansa into UK. Website shows flight on time even though they have announced on national news that all their London flights are cancelled
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So will I ever see my laptop/PDA and various other high value items again when they get checked into the hold? It is already nigh on impossible to insure these items when travelling/in cars etc.
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Jacko et al
Whilst you do raise some valid questions, I understand the priority to to leave this thread clear to permit air crew to communicate and seek assistance with their jobs.
Questions about kids toys etc are probably better asked within the spotters corner or JB for a more suitable audience to answer.
Whilst you do raise some valid questions, I understand the priority to to leave this thread clear to permit air crew to communicate and seek assistance with their jobs.
Questions about kids toys etc are probably better asked within the spotters corner or JB for a more suitable audience to answer.
Jacko,
You're over-reacting, massively. No arrogance intended, whatsoever. It simply appeared to me that you might not have seen Danny's earlier post - I was trying to be helpful. I sincerely hope that, on this occasion, my communications skills are sufficently professional.
You're over-reacting, massively. No arrogance intended, whatsoever. It simply appeared to me that you might not have seen Danny's earlier post - I was trying to be helpful. I sincerely hope that, on this occasion, my communications skills are sufficently professional.
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Regarding the snidey posts over Ryanair, they like FlyBe have said that they are suspending baggage rulings/charges at this current time.
Ryanair & EasyJet have both said they like BA are waiving costs for flight changes.
Jordan
Ryanair & EasyJet have both said they like BA are waiving costs for flight changes.
Jordan
Any body heard from "WELLARD" recently,,, last week he started a bit of a commotion over a thread about a friend of his who wasn't allowed a bottle of water through security.
I wonder if he is so adament to take whatever he likes through!
I wonder if he is so adament to take whatever he likes through!
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Thanks for the replies regarding baggage costs. Personally, I'm not bothered if an airline charges me for hold luggage, but there are some people who will kick off and at a time when tempers are high anyway, extra frustration and anger of baggage costs is NOT what airport/airline staff want.
Buzz off with BAF!!
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Originally Posted by Davaar
Yes, but what is the difference between a perceived threat and a threat, and what does it matter?
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Not to make light of the current situation, but there is an upside to this ... no more hanging around whilst boarding whilst some muppet tries to heave a suitcase bigger than them into the overhead bins!
Actually it could catch on. Wasn't it Ryanair who is trying to persuade people to move from hold to cabin baggage by charging for the former. Hmmm ...
Duncan
Actually it could catch on. Wasn't it Ryanair who is trying to persuade people to move from hold to cabin baggage by charging for the former. Hmmm ...
Duncan
Originally Posted by matt_hooks
I know flybe have waived all extra baggage costs, not sure on the other locos tho.
Just watching the BBC news 24 coverage, where on earth do they find these "experts" ???
I have a degree in aerospace engineering, and the stuff they are saying is SO far off the truth it's quite scary!
Just watching the BBC news 24 coverage, where on earth do they find these "experts" ???
I have a degree in aerospace engineering, and the stuff they are saying is SO far off the truth it's quite scary!
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Originally Posted by DuncanF
Not to make light of the current situation, but there is an upside to this ... no more hanging around whilst boarding whilst some muppet tries to heave a suitcase bigger than them into the overhead bins!
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This reminds me of Operation Bojinka.
Now this is interesting:
"The two had already converted fourteen bottles of contact lens solution into bottles containing nitroglycerin, which was readily available in the Philippines. Yousef taped a metal rod to the arch of his of foot in place of the detonators. Yousef and Mohammed wore jewelry and clothing with metal to confuse airport security. They packed condoms in their bags to support their story that they were meeting women"
Now this is interesting:
"The two had already converted fourteen bottles of contact lens solution into bottles containing nitroglycerin, which was readily available in the Philippines. Yousef taped a metal rod to the arch of his of foot in place of the detonators. Yousef and Mohammed wore jewelry and clothing with metal to confuse airport security. They packed condoms in their bags to support their story that they were meeting women"
More than just an ATCO
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why ban books and magazines?
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So it's Open Season for thefts from checked baggage by all those sticky-fingered baggage handlers (YES YOU ARE!) as well as huge spondoolies from excess baggage charges for the airlines plus massive sales of on-board bottled water at $4.95 now you can't take your own on board.
Cynical? Moi?
Cynical? Moi?
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Originally Posted by Jinkster
I can understand it can be a problem however I cant see the business chappies among the world travelling by sea.....