Davaar

Yes, and several did write exactly that here a couple of years or so back. I wrote that there was a snag with that theory. The snag is that the multiculturally enriching newcomers may refuse to, as you put it, buggah off. They would rather stay here and destroy the culture that we built over two thousand years. Great was the abuse heaped on me (from the UK, France, Australia, and no doubt elsewhere). "Racist" was the least of it. Well, I lost that debate, and now the multicultural paradise has arrived. Congratulations Guys! You have achieved what you set out to achieve. Your children and mine can live with it.

BenThere

I can't really argue that UK's close alliance with the United States puts you on the wrong foot with Jihad. No doubt about that.

But the theory that it explains the violence doesn't apply to the many other cases of terror against civilians such as India, Egypt, Thailand, Chechnya, Algeria, Nigeria, Morocco, the Philippines, Jordan, just to name a few off the top of my head.

No, the reason for the violence is that there is contact with them. And they have no tolerance for people who come in contact with them, yet do not accept their dogma and join them.

They achieve power by intimidation and violence.

A330ismylittlebaby

And people who have the sun well i dont want to get on a plane with them anyways

Rollingthunder

Wow, from R&N to Prop Wash and back to R&N.

That's got to be a first.

RoyHudd

Slim Shady, Jews fought on our side in WW2, notably as pilots and engineers. Arabs were fully on the Nazi side. Read factual history, inform yourself and shut up with your childish anti-Jew/anti-Israel diatribes. We are not interested.

As for Jews not "fighting back", and Jewish "suicide bombers", this stuff is close to illegal. Watch out.

Skipness One Echo

The most disturbing thing for me is the elephant in the room.
WE are taught to respect all people regardless of their culture.
Certain muslims, ( a possible majority in certain parts of that community ), have been, and continue to be utterly racist jew hating bigots. NOT ALL by any means but way too many.
There are many often young muslims in the UK who call for the utter destruction of Israel and blame the jews for all their own woes. It never seems to be the fault of an inward looking and patriarchal, conservative Islamic intolerant community.
And yet they scream like angry children every time they are offended by the secular west and don't stop stamping their feet until the politicians give in.
We don't have nearly this bother with the rest of the world. It seems islam is a very poor fit for the culture of modern Britain. I should know, I am gay and I frequently read about what they want to do to me.
It is time that the muslims in the UK stopped thinking the world revolves around them and their 8th century lifestyle. I have a right to live my life in the country I love, if they don't like it here, they really do need to get out.

andydd

"it's been a long time coming; the passenger security at UK airports is pathetic and once again we have to rely on our transatlantic cousins to show us how to do it"

You must be joking!!!!! US as usual try and close the door after the horse has run away. UK security stoped this attack... how did the yanks get on with 9/11???

derekl

As a frequent transtlantic business traveller, I need my laptop. Fact of modern life. When I travel alone, I don't have checked baggage, just the laptop and a small briefcase -- for my small briefs

So now I may be required to check my laptop.

I note that there is significant concern about theft from checked baggage.

Can anyone please explain to me how dishonest people get employed airside, can steal stuff, and walk out of the airport with it? And given that they are criminals, what's to stop them putting stuff into the bag "I packed myself"?

deathcruzer

Well I don’t think we have any politicians with the balls to get involved with this problem…its hard enough in this country to say really what you think without falling foul of our legislation… .Still if someone did get to grips with this…they have my vote.

NWT

Its not particuly difficult to get a job airside as long as you haven't got a criminal record. If you see the way luggage is treated by the baggage handlers you would understand why so many bags go missing. I see several bags everyday just lying on the airside roads where they have fallen off poorly loaded trolleys, driven buy staff that to be honest couldn't give a stuff whether a bag falls off and gets run over or not...then the airline will just conviniently loose it rather than pay out. As to theft, not difficult and no real checks on staff leaving airport secure areas...security more concerned about whats coming in....as with all security there is always weak points though, and anyone who works at th airports will know where they are.
Some reports that one of thoses arrested was employed at LHR wih an airside pass....interesting to know what job...

spikeair

I'd like to know whats going to be doen for those of use that travel with Film cameras. (Not digital).
As everyone is probably aware, film checked into the hold will be x-rayed and becasue this is stronger than the types used for hand baggage, it will be ruined.
What happens then , rules out taking film on planes. (An you can't always buty the film you require abroad. )

spikeair

Whast happening for those of use that need to take film abroad.(Yes not everyone uses digital camers!)
Film put in teh hold will be ruined.
Leaving your expensive cameras in your hold baggage, tehre's always a chance it going to get nicked.
If film cannot be carried on as hold baggage, then that immedialty means a photographer cannot travel by plane . Not all places you visit will have the film you are after whether than be transparaency or print or be able to process it properly before you return.
I have no objections to camera gear being examined, in the past that has frequently happened .

Atcham Tower

Well said, Skip One Echo! The sole benefit from the govenment's much-vaunted multi-culturism seems to be a nice chicken balti ...

Man-on-the-fence

I too am concerned about putting my camera equipment in the hold, I fly in a month and a lot can change between now and then.

gravity victim

As a pax who was in the thick of it yesterday I will put up with any security, however tedious, for which I can see some logic. I cannot however respect a system that treats my flight crew, who will sit at the controls of my aircraft, as potential killers. It's ridiculous - you might as well ban police from carrying loaded weapons in the terminal. (Some of them have criminal records after all!) And as for having my newpaper tuttingly removed at security, while my asthma inhaler (pressurised metal cylinder, containing who knows what substance) was waved through...but then it all went tits up when I realised my (infra-red) car key was in my pocket...aargh! "It has a battery, sir, you must return and check it in"...well, so does my watch , but that was OK apparently...

Rant over - I'll keep flying, but let's have some common sense.

Rollingthunder

spikeair

Consider buying a film safe.

And since you insist on multiple postings of the same question,

Buy a film safe


Buy a film safe.

bacardi walla

Am I missing something here or are flights INTO the UK from all over the world subject to this handbaggage ruling ???

spikeair

Sorry about that multiple posting, messed up there.
may be just rumpour, but if the filmsafe blcosk x-rays, won't they jsut turn up to juice to see whats inside this negating the benefit?

Rollingthunder

It won't get through. Worst that can happen is they will break open your luggage and chuck everything to hell and back. Well, maybe not back.

spikeair

fantastic
Well I hope some common sense is implemeneted soon or I'll have to cancel my holiday as I was going out to take photographs Either that or splash out on a digital equipment (which in turn either gets borken or nicked in the hold)
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