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Old 5th Aug 2020, 09:02
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Stop looking for loopholes..

6 weeks of cooperation and we will be able to get on with our (slightly different for a while) lives.

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Old 5th Aug 2020, 09:54
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Latest advice is that the melbourne outbreak is caused by a mutation that makes its C19 strain the most infectious so far on the planet. There are thus national and global reasons for the lockdown....

‘’Obvious reference “Alien” : “nuke it from outer space, it’s the only way to be sure...”
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 10:24
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Originally Posted by Homesick-Angel
Stop looking for loopholes..

6 weeks of cooperation and we will be able to get on with our (slightly different for a while) lives.
lol Iím all good in that department thanks. My point being, it makes a mockery of the system with people writing up their own permit forms and driving to meet their intimate partners with no limit on how long youíve known them!
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 11:29
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Sunfish - if proven correct, that may explain one or two matters.
I'be been scratching my head a little as to how thing can be spreading so quickly.
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Old 5th Aug 2020, 11:35
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Sunfish - if proven correct, that may explain one or two matters.
I'be been scratching my head a little as to how thing can be spreading so quickly.
Itís the cafe, coffee, social culture and religion thatís doing the damage. Your average Caucasian stay at home married man and woman arenít the ones getting infected. There have been factories full of workers not wearing masks since it was mandatory and people refusing to get tested so they can keep working, passing it onto others at an alarmingly high rate.

Whilst it hasnít been widely publicised, they must have discovered or theorised that the ďmysteryĒ cases are coming from retail via the ďsuper spreaders,Ē hence the closure of retail premises.
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Itís the cafe, coffee, social culture and religion thatís doing the damage. Your average Caucasian stay at home married man and woman arenít the ones getting infected.
If you believe the ďaverage Caucasian married coupleĒ arenít getting infected you need to check your sources. Thatís just racist claptrap. LGAís like Wyndham, Hume, Moreland, Whittlesey, Casey where virus cases are high are well over 50% Caucasian.

Cafe and coffee culture being to blame?? Youíll find the outbreaks in aged care facilities, retail stores, schools and food processing well outnumber those from cafes. Reckon Mr and Mrs ďStay at home CaucasiansĒ shouldnít shop for food or visit mum and dad in the old folks home too?


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Squawk, you may be on the money, but my radar is blaring. Somethings not quite right.
Coincidentally, in the Oz tonight, this tabulation based on Johns Hopkins data - sorry couldn't snip the whole lot, link below but behind a paywall.
Australia (all) comes in at 49th, with the top twenty being dominated by African countries. And of course Danistan.

There's maybe's a rabbit off...but I hope not.


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...72bcafb3b01066

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Thereís lies, damned lies and statistics.....

Pertinent points in that graph percentage increase cases since June 26. Most African nations lie below the equator (now in winter). The pandemic which spread first into the well connected and richer Northern Hemisphere is now arriving into poorer and less connected Africa last. Pretty consistent spread for a pandemic.

Youíll also find the nations with the most deaths per capita for the Pandemic overall are dominated by Caucasian ones.
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The news will eventually come out in a scientific paper. We are lucky to have cutting edge scientists in Melbourne.

We are unlucky to be the focus of medical attention at the moment. No one wants the Melbourne strain to spread to the rest of the world.

..Also anecdotal experifrom a young person who has had C19 - they wouldn’t wish it on their worst enemy.
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Squawk,I recall being told years ago that State police forces deputised their interstate colleagues somehow. The old idea of smoky and the bandit style chases to the State line doesnít work - Victorian police will chase you right across the border into NSW and vice versa was what I was told.
Yes, thatís correct.... if they had actually done that for the entire air-wing... Of course if you havenít been sworn in as a special constable in NSW, then you are wearing nothing more than fancy dress with an illegal firearm on your thigh.
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Cafe and coffee culture being to blame??
I like the way you completely mis-quoted me by removing social and religious cultures. You should have been a reporter!

If cafe and coffee culture arenít to blame, then why did the premier shut down all restaurants, eateries and food courts for dining-in or on-site?

Have you been to a restaurant in say China Town in Melbourne pre Covid outside of standard meal times? The 8pm curfew is about social and family gatherings, particularly for religious purposes (without naming specific ones) where the acceleration of the spread began. Do you recall that the government gave advice months ago for certain ethnic groups to stop listening to their home-country propaganda that the virus doesnít actually exist?

There are many aspects that have been so poorly handled, that we had no hope when it hit our shores.
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Originally Posted by Sunfish
Latest advice is that the melbourne outbreak is caused by a mutation that makes its C19 strain the most infectious so far on the planet.
glad to see in your spare time you have found time to intensively and forensically analyse the financials of qantas, but have also had time to conduct detailed epidemiological and anatomical analysis of a virus that even the experts are struggling to keep up with.
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glad to see in your spare time you have found time to intensively and forensically analyse the financials of qantas, but have also had time to conduct detailed epidemiological and anatomical analysis of a virus that even the experts are struggling to keep up with.
1. I haven’t looked t Qantas financials, I don’t need to. I know people who do that better than I.

2. My biochemical skills are hard pressed making a reasonable gin and tonic. However I know when to listen to Professors who are experts in their fields. Ever heard of the Peter Doherty Institute?

https://www.doherty.edu.au
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There's really not that many active cases in Melbourne if you look at the % of the population.

It's little wonder that people are dying as it gets into nursing homes, along with the odd outliers here and there.

Life goes on pretty normal for me, just not much flying.
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Any training activity at Moorabbin today?
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Old 6th Aug 2020, 04:38
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Originally Posted by Squawk7700
lol Iím all good in that department thanks. My point being, it makes a mockery of the system with people writing up their own permit forms and driving to meet their intimate partners with no limit on how long youíve known them!
You still have to comply with the 8PM-5AM Curfew. So if you just hooked up on Tinder or gave someone a booty call, you need to be there for an early evening and hope things go well, 'cos you're going to be there until 5AM at the earliest.
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Old 6th Aug 2020, 04:48
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Originally Posted by dr dre
If you believe the ďaverage Caucasian married coupleĒ arenít getting infected you need to check your sources. Thatís just racist claptrap. LGAís like Wyndham, Hume, Moreland, Whittlesey, Casey where virus cases are high are well over 50% Caucasian.

Cafe and coffee culture being to blame?? Youíll find the outbreaks in aged care facilities, retail stores, schools and food processing well outnumber those from cafes. Reckon Mr and Mrs ďStay at home CaucasiansĒ shouldnít shop for food or visit mum and dad in the old folks home too?
Speaking as someone who has a parent in care, and a spouse who is a nurse in an Aged Care facility, I can tell you nobody's been visiting Mum and Dad in Aged Care for weeks, perhaps months, save for a two-week window when things relaxed early June. And when visitors have been allowed, they are screened, temp-checked, time-limited to 30 minutes, sanitised, masked and gloved, and then safe-distanced. The primary vector for the virus getting into Aged Care is not visitors, it's the staff, mostly lower paid, low-skilled but kind and caring workers, many of whom are from overseas, for whom English is a second language, and who have done a six-week Certificate 3 in Aged Care. Welcome to the capitalis market-based economy system applied to private operators in the health sector.
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Originally Posted by Stickshift3000
There's really not that many active cases in Melbourne if you look at the % of the population.

It's little wonder that people are dying as it gets into nursing homes, along with the odd outliers here and there.

Life goes on pretty normal for me, just not much flying.
Mate, reality check. This disease has the capacity to seriously affect everyone. As soon as we get R>1, every person who gets it infects more than one other person.

Yesterday a Melbourne man in his 30s with no previous conditions died.

Even if you don't die, you can be crippled by the disease.
Check out this Scottish pilot - needs a lung transplant after losing 90% capacity to COVID-19. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-on-ventilator

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Old 6th Aug 2020, 05:44
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Tell me something 'pearly' if the 30 yr who died had no underlying conditions as you say then in the 6 months we have been subjected to this so called deadly virus he's the first to die at such a young age? By that account there ought to be young healthy people deceased every where?!fear and hysteria are feeding the sheeple
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Tell me something 'pearly' if the 30 yr who died had no underlying conditions as you say then in the 6 months we have been subjected to this so called deadly virus he's the first to die at such a young age? By that account there ought to be young healthy people deceased every where?!fear and hysteria are feeding the sheeple
You may have not heard this, however it depends on how you contract it... lightly breathed in and it will affect your upper respiratory tract, or if the infected droplets find their way down lower, your lungs will have serious issues straight up.

Pray for the former and by the time your body fights it off, it might not make it to your lungs.
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