Melbourne stage 4 lockdown and GA
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Well the slowdown in life has certainly proved that many will believe everything they read online!
The Premier and the Chief Health Officer addressed this specific “rumour” on the news tonight in intricate detail and said it is nothing but a rumour and there is absolutely no substance.
I’ll be waiting with baited breath to see who this mystery scientist is !!
I’ll be waiting with baited breath to see who this mystery scientist is !!
Squawk, why do you think Andrews and Sutton went to such lengths to debunk the “rumor”?.
Unamas, agree with my posts on flying. As for sailing, I agree it is nonsense. I’ve been engaging in that nonsense since age nine, however I’m a bit old for bow these days.
Unamas, agree with my posts on flying. As for sailing, I agree it is nonsense. I’ve been engaging in that nonsense since age nine, however I’m a bit old for bow these days.
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I am not attacking you, merely questioning your unsupported claim.
I have a lot of respect for the Doherty Institute, and if a paper is forthcoming that indicates that the Melbourne strain of SARS-COV-2 is inherently more transmissive than anywhere else in the world, then I will take note accordingly, and I will commend my friend Sunfish on the internet for the advanced heads-up!
But you have to admit, that even if your mate’s research is as yet incomplete, if such a finding is not to be divulged to the health authorities, but is OK to be divulged to you so you can spread it as rumour on the internet, it sounds a little suspicious?
That leads one to suspect that either you poured your mate too much Red that evening, or he/she poured too much for you.
Please forgive us for exercising a small amount of caution over everything we read on the internet.
The article quoted by Guptar was an interesting read. Although it drew no conclusions, and had nothing to do with Melbourne, it did indicate that there has been one mutation of the virus (of unknown significance) which has mostly overtaken the original virus globally. It also noted, of interest, that the virus rarely mutates, which supports research from others.
So while it is possible that the Melbourne outbreak is due to nothing other than a particularly contagious mutation, I suspect it has more to do with the cuddly nature of Melbournians in Winter, with a cherry topping of “Piss off, Chairman Dan”.
Derfred, you are assuming the source and content of the information, if it arrives. I may have deliberately misled you.
However I stand by what I said. I’ve been told that the Melbourne strain is the most infectious on the planet.
I refer you to my posts of 8 March. People questioned them as well. I am simply reporting what I’m told.
However I stand by what I said. I’ve been told that the Melbourne strain is the most infectious on the planet.
I refer you to my posts of 8 March. People questioned them as well. I am simply reporting what I’m told.
I had a briefing on Covid - 19 from the experts on Friday.
1. There are 10X more cases than reported, consequently the lethality is currently overstated.
2. There is no conspiracy/bio weapon/plot, the Chinese researchers have been open and honest.
3. Best protection is frequent hand washing and don’t touch your face, no shaking hands, etc.
1. There are 10X more cases than reported, consequently the lethality is currently overstated.
2. There is no conspiracy/bio weapon/plot, the Chinese researchers have been open and honest.
3. Best protection is frequent hand washing and don’t touch your face, no shaking hands, etc.
Apparently, the detailed maths of the outbreak indicate that it was circulating in China in November and possibly as early as October, not as currently suggested by Chinese researchers December 1 for the index case.
In addition, the discovery that infected people, including children, can be almost asymptomatic is a factor. A case in point is Dr. Chris Higgins in Melbourne today.
Then there is the discovery that the current COvid-19 tests produce a high percentage of false negatives even with repeated testing.
This led researchers to believe there are 10X more cases than reported. This indicates that the CFR is much lower than the 3% being suggested. Epidemiologists have also made the observation that overestimates of CFR are common in the early stages of a pandemic so this is not a surprise to them.
In addition, the discovery that infected people, including children, can be almost asymptomatic is a factor. A case in point is Dr. Chris Higgins in Melbourne today.
Then there is the discovery that the current COvid-19 tests produce a high percentage of false negatives even with repeated testing.
This led researchers to believe there are 10X more cases than reported. This indicates that the CFR is much lower than the 3% being suggested. Epidemiologists have also made the observation that overestimates of CFR are common in the early stages of a pandemic so this is not a surprise to them.
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Derfred, you are assuming the source and content of the information, if it arrives. I may have deliberately misled you.
However I stand by what I said. I’ve been told that the Melbourne strain is the most infectious on the planet.
I refer you to my posts of 8 March. People questioned them as well. I am simply reporting what I’m told.
However I stand by what I said. I’ve been told that the Melbourne strain is the most infectious on the planet.
I refer you to my posts of 8 March. People questioned them as well. I am simply reporting what I’m told.
You haven’t denied that either, but you have backed away from it.
So now all you are left with is this:
”However I stand by what I said. I’ve been told that the Melbourne strain is the most infectious on the planet.”
Given that those who are paid to know more than the rest of us are currently insisting that that isn’t the case, who told you? I’m gathering it wasn’t someone from the Doherty Institute, so who was it? The Townsville refueller? (If so, I’m still listening!
)BTW, you made a much better prediction back in early Covid. I can’t remember the date, but you suggested that Australia completely close it’s international border for 2 weeks. You couldn’t have been more wise, except that it should have been a lot longer than 2 weeks. Such a suggestion was laughable to most at the time. Not so much now.
P.S. Maybe you did intend to “deliberately mislead me”. In which case you probably caught another fish. If so, well done, but please consider that a lot of us are going through serious difficulties right now, and psychological games are inappropriate.
Last edited by Derfred; 9th Aug 2020 at 14:53.
Dan Andrews has now just announced that announcements are to be made via a series of delegates, in different languages as the messages are not getting through in English.
The message was simply not getting through to migrants and non-English speaking communities who have the highest number of infections.
The message was simply not getting through to migrants and non-English speaking communities who have the highest number of infections.
