New DAS for CASA
I'm perpetually fascinated by 'new beginnings' syndrome: The capacity of humans to earnestly believe that changing one person will make a difference.
I'd commend the AAAA's submission to the ASRR on this point.
It doesn't matter who the new Messiah is: He or she will be in exactly the same regulatory straight jacket as his or her predecessors. Recent encumbents and the new encumbent have had and will have no power to change the regulatory framework in which they operate. That Frankenstein cannot be killed from within.
Correct. That is the only selection criterion.
I'd commend the AAAA's submission to the ASRR on this point.
It doesn't matter who the new Messiah is: He or she will be in exactly the same regulatory straight jacket as his or her predecessors. Recent encumbents and the new encumbent have had and will have no power to change the regulatory framework in which they operate. That Frankenstein cannot be killed from within.
[T]he "successful" candidate will be the one judged to be the least likely to cause the Minister any problems ...
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I concur. I've always said the only solution to the problem is a political solution. Unfortunately there is no political will. The minister that could help, (I have his photo on my toilet wall), thinks he has a cunning plan, but it isn't marching with any confidence in the direction of industry needs. I think he amuses Abbott. That's the only thing I can find may be in his favor.
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Reality check
Only 10 replies until we see a posting of utter rubbish totally unrelated to the thread. Enough of the YouTube crap already. A complete waste of bandwidth. This seems to be a pattern at PPRuNe, at least from a few regulars.
People on here are putting faith in MrDak. Are you kidding me?? He is a 20 year part of the problem!
And you say;
Come on guys, how about some nominations of credible and suitable candidates.
Creampuffs comment pretty much sums up the situation. There will be a lot of disappointed IOS once all the big decisions are made over the coming months, and I'm not excluded from that group. Frankenstein will remain, nothing will change, and the game will continue to be played.
Now, Frank old son, WTF?
Unfortunately there is no political will. The minister that could help, (I have his photo on my toilet wall)
Finally I have admittedly thrown a few names about over the years, I really couldn't be bothered anymore. But if I had to personally choose one it would be Mike Smith, or someone very similar.
Toot toot
You,re getting soft 004. Where's the biffo, where's the in your face who framed Wodger Wabbit banter? I must admit that Frank's choice of pin-up was a bit disturbing. This has all been done before, I'm surprised TJs name hasn't been trotted out or even CM.
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Is 30 years enough?
CP# 21-"That Frankenstein cannot be killed from within."
CP# 21-"The capacity of humans to earnestly believe that changing one person will make a difference."
What we can realistically hope for is sane, reasonable, competent leadership of the CASA crew towards re-establishing some faith and confidence. There are some first class individuals hiding behind the HQ pot-plants and there is evidence of times past where industry and administrator could get together and apply 'common sense' to the regulatory imbroglio. If we could achieve that and tackle some of 'regulatory nonsense' that would be a great improvement. But without direction to the manner in which the rules are used, no matter how good they are, systematic abuse will continue to create problems.
As it stands – nothing and no one is safe from attack, as and when suits; AAAA for example. There have been through the outgoing ethos some terrible atrocities committed, some very light minded 'bending' of rules and some hanky panky with the spirit and intent of the law. I believe it is the hope that this aberration may cured through astute leadership that keeps everyone sane.
I expect time will tell but I tend to agree with Sarcs – the miniscule does appear to have his arse in a political sling and his work cut out, just to keep a lid on the situation. He does have the option to leave a worthwhile legacy and be remembered as the bloke who saved Australian GA. Lets give the man and his advisors some time to study what must be a difficult, complex, potentially embarrassing report from the panel 'he' selected; find a DAS he can live with and set it all to music. Must be a bit like a duck on a mill pond – smooth as silk on the surface, paddling like crazy below the water line.
Patience -
How poor are they that have not patience! What wound did ever heal but by degrees? (the Bard).
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelious).
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Lookyloo,
Damned if I do damned if I don't. If I don't say things the way I see then I am criticised, if I do say it the way I think then you run to the Mods. You are an odd human being. But since I am in a nice mood I will share something with you my old sparring partner, truth be known I have 18 months til I enter full time retirement. A pleasant thought of mine had always been to leave this industry in better shape than when I first entered it. And indeed I have seen changes in technology, people skills, safety and myriads of systems, changes for the better.
But regulatory oversight, regulations, CAsA itself and I cringe when I say ATsB are woeful. They are abominations on a bureaucratic scale not seen in decades, and they disappoint me. I had hoped my grandkids would enter aviation but that will be unlikely as GA's final nail will have well and truly been banged into its coffin long by then. As for the big end of town, well what's on offer, a Cadetship with JQ where they would earn as much as a school tuckshop lady?
There are lots of disturbing things about Frank - his green toenails, black teeth and penchant for collecting faecal samples! But I still adore the guy, and at least he removed that picture of Hoody complete with nipple jewellery and no shirt on 
Jeez mate, that's a thought! At least if TJ got the job the CAsA Level 3 staff would be used to all the screaming! As for CM, don't joke, his name has been touted in some circles. The question is which circle have been looking at him ??
Kharon,
It's not the first time and won't be the last time. Is the current situation any worse than previous ones? Doubt it.
The crafty spinmeisters will apply their trade and walk away clean as blank sheet of A4.
Toot toot
You,re getting soft 004. Where's the biffo, where's the in your face who framed Wodger Wabbit banter?
But regulatory oversight, regulations, CAsA itself and I cringe when I say ATsB are woeful. They are abominations on a bureaucratic scale not seen in decades, and they disappoint me. I had hoped my grandkids would enter aviation but that will be unlikely as GA's final nail will have well and truly been banged into its coffin long by then. As for the big end of town, well what's on offer, a Cadetship with JQ where they would earn as much as a school tuckshop lady?
I must admit that Frank's choice of pin-up was a bit disturbing.
This has all been done before, I'm surprised TJs name hasn't been trotted out or even CM
Kharon,
the miniscule does appear to have his arse in a political sling and his work cut out, just to keep a lid on the situation.
The crafty spinmeisters will apply their trade and walk away clean as blank sheet of A4.
Toot toot
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Lookleft;
If you are talking about TJ of Ansett fame, who fell foul of the then DAS who went into an extraordinary fit of the 'vapours' over paperwork and shut the whole place down because same DAS didn't like him, then I agree, but with the caveat that both he and I having an axe to grind, would both equally dispense summary justice on a scale unimagined in history, (or at least since King Olaf dispensed Viking justice on the Druids and their intellectual evolved Saxons). Therefor I cannot hold he, nor I, responsible for the subsequent events.
We've been sitting here for years, during which time millions of dollars have been wasted on a regulatory review process, and we've advanced no further than an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping, (apologies to Lt Blackadder). It's about time it stopped and that TJ, may have the mongrel in him to effect change.
It would be wise not to disturb either of us and I can offer the plausible denial that I have been offered the job.
The Minister's picture stays there until I'm satisfied he has retired. Nobody knows what goes on in my lavatory. It would also be wise not to push this point lest you get a moldy scone with Baldrick's two farthings in the mail. (which I pinched).
If you are talking about TJ of Ansett fame, who fell foul of the then DAS who went into an extraordinary fit of the 'vapours' over paperwork and shut the whole place down because same DAS didn't like him, then I agree, but with the caveat that both he and I having an axe to grind, would both equally dispense summary justice on a scale unimagined in history, (or at least since King Olaf dispensed Viking justice on the Druids and their intellectual evolved Saxons). Therefor I cannot hold he, nor I, responsible for the subsequent events.
We've been sitting here for years, during which time millions of dollars have been wasted on a regulatory review process, and we've advanced no further than an asthmatic ant with some heavy shopping, (apologies to Lt Blackadder). It's about time it stopped and that TJ, may have the mongrel in him to effect change.
It would be wise not to disturb either of us and I can offer the plausible denial that I have been offered the job.
The Minister's picture stays there until I'm satisfied he has retired. Nobody knows what goes on in my lavatory. It would also be wise not to push this point lest you get a moldy scone with Baldrick's two farthings in the mail. (which I pinched).
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The elephant in the room has to be Forsyth in a caretaker role. MrDak obviously trusts him. They put him in to slash and burn following the WLR, make unpopular changes within, then hand over to a new DAS with no enemies in the ranks. Break the CASA beast and politics and hand over to new set of hands. All depends on the WLR I guess. With all the submissions, he must know were most of the dirt is.
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I still think Carmody could make a good DAS with the right support team and Hoody being one of those. But of course he's not a pilot.
Back to a small r regulator with a 2nd stint for Byron?
What about combining head of casa and Asa?
Back to a small r regulator with a 2nd stint for Byron?
What about combining head of casa and Asa?
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Biccy, Herr Carmody almost landed the gig last time. But some powers to be opted for Mr Angry, they felt it would be better to have a Driver as DAS. At the time Carmody did have a lot of support though, and I believe the final numbers were very very close. They chose a 'big mouth' over 'big ears'.
Unfortunately some of the same people who opted for the Skull are still in influential positions today and will also be on the panel choosing the next DAS. I'm thinking the Cathay boys have had their run, and this year may well be a new year, year of the QF boys.
Unfortunately some of the same people who opted for the Skull are still in influential positions today and will also be on the panel choosing the next DAS. I'm thinking the Cathay boys have had their run, and this year may well be a new year, year of the QF boys.
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004 # 28 –"It's not the first time and won't be the last time. Is the current situation any worse than previous ones? Doubt it. The crafty spinmeisters will apply their trade and walk away clean as blank sheet of A4.
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Oh Bad Sunfish – naughty! Not even in jest. Can you imagine it; what was the name he gave to his 'first team'?, (some fanciful, forgotten acronym, which made me laugh at the time) Anyway – them : joining up with the less savoury elements lurking deep within the bowls of Sleepy Hollow.
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New DAS
Sadly, many of the 'names' in aviation have got there by simply having 'more front than Myers', but when tested they come up wanting.
This job demands more than bull****ters who bull**** about bull****. It is not a job for a flunkie or a 'yes man'. It requires someone who is not afraid to call a spade a shovel when the need arises in dealing with the internal naysayers who are still inhibiting the go forward progress. Bruce sidelined and dealt with some of them during his time, and now someone else needs the gonads to carry on with the task of systematically getting rid of the rest of those well poisoners for the good of the Industry, and the organisation.
Ya all have a good day now.
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Has "Elvis" left the building yet?
It would be appropriate for him to vanish quickly after the latest letter to AOC holders towards CVD pilots has been made public. I'm told the letter has gone "viral" to Europe and The US. I'm also told The Attorney General has been informed with a copy of that plus the CAsA indemnity for actions with The Anti Discrimination Board.
Copy below for another example to grind your teeth over;
Civil Aviation Act 1988
- C2014C00167
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2014C00167
30EF CASA may reinstate if satisfied that holder’s livelihood depends on authorisation
(1) A holder of a civil aviation authorisation who has been given a demerit suspension notice or demerit cancellation notice may apply to CASA to have the authorisation reinstated.
(2) Subsection (1) applies despite paragraphs 30DY(2)(b), 30DZ(2)(b) and 30EC(2)(b).
(3) If, and only if, CASA is satisfied that the suspension or cancellation would cause the holder severe financial hardship because, without the authorisation, the holder would not be able to earn the holder’s principal or only income, CASA may:
(a) reinstate the authorisation; and
(b) impose on the authorisation such conditions as CASA considers appropriate in the circumstances.
98 Regulations etc. (6C) CASA must consult the Australian Human Rights Commission about any proposal that regulations be made containing provisions that are inconsistent as mentioned in subsection (6A) or (6B). However, a failure to consult the Commission does not affect the validity of any regulations so made.
FIRST MENTION OF THE ABOVE IN JULY 2005
This compilation was prepared on 8 July 2005
taking into account amendments up to Act No. 86 of 2005
(6A) The regulations may contain provisions relating to medical standards that are inconsistent with theSex Discrimination Act 1984 if the inconsistency is necessary for the safety of air navigation.
Note: See also Part 2 of Schedule 1 to the Civil Aviation Amendment Act 2005.
(6B) The regulations may contain provisions that are inconsistent with the Disability Discrimination Act 1992 if the inconsistency is necessary for the safety of air navigation.
Note: See also Part 2 of Schedule 1 to the Civil Aviation Amendment Act 2005.
(6C) CASA must consult the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission about any proposal that regulations be made containing provisions that are inconsistent as mentioned in subsection (6A) or (6B). However, a failure to consult the Commission does not affect the validity of any regulations so made. (6B) The regulations may contain provisions that are inconsistent with the Disability Discrimination Act 1992 if the inconsistency is necessary for the safety of air navigation.
Note: See also Part 2 of Schedule 1 to the Civil Aviation Amendment Act 2005.
It would be appropriate for him to vanish quickly after the latest letter to AOC holders towards CVD pilots has been made public. I'm told the letter has gone "viral" to Europe and The US. I'm also told The Attorney General has been informed with a copy of that plus the CAsA indemnity for actions with The Anti Discrimination Board.
Copy below for another example to grind your teeth over;
Civil Aviation Act 1988
- C2014C00167
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/C2014C00167
30EF CASA may reinstate if satisfied that holder’s livelihood depends on authorisation
(1) A holder of a civil aviation authorisation who has been given a demerit suspension notice or demerit cancellation notice may apply to CASA to have the authorisation reinstated.
(2) Subsection (1) applies despite paragraphs 30DY(2)(b), 30DZ(2)(b) and 30EC(2)(b).
(3) If, and only if, CASA is satisfied that the suspension or cancellation would cause the holder severe financial hardship because, without the authorisation, the holder would not be able to earn the holder’s principal or only income, CASA may:
(a) reinstate the authorisation; and
(b) impose on the authorisation such conditions as CASA considers appropriate in the circumstances.
98 Regulations etc. (6C) CASA must consult the Australian Human Rights Commission about any proposal that regulations be made containing provisions that are inconsistent as mentioned in subsection (6A) or (6B). However, a failure to consult the Commission does not affect the validity of any regulations so made.
FIRST MENTION OF THE ABOVE IN JULY 2005
This compilation was prepared on 8 July 2005
taking into account amendments up to Act No. 86 of 2005
(6A) The regulations may contain provisions relating to medical standards that are inconsistent with theSex Discrimination Act 1984 if the inconsistency is necessary for the safety of air navigation.
Note: See also Part 2 of Schedule 1 to the Civil Aviation Amendment Act 2005.
(6B) The regulations may contain provisions that are inconsistent with the Disability Discrimination Act 1992 if the inconsistency is necessary for the safety of air navigation.
Note: See also Part 2 of Schedule 1 to the Civil Aviation Amendment Act 2005.
(6C) CASA must consult the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission about any proposal that regulations be made containing provisions that are inconsistent as mentioned in subsection (6A) or (6B). However, a failure to consult the Commission does not affect the validity of any regulations so made. (6B) The regulations may contain provisions that are inconsistent with the Disability Discrimination Act 1992 if the inconsistency is necessary for the safety of air navigation.
Note: See also Part 2 of Schedule 1 to the Civil Aviation Amendment Act 2005.
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It must be very close now.
The rumour of the ADFA boss as DAS has already been floated. Any others?
My mail is that the well qualified Aussie 'aviation' candidates have received their "thanks but no thanks", so does that mean we'll get a former Coles or Wollies CEO or perhaps an expat?
The rumour of the ADFA boss as DAS has already been floated. Any others?
My mail is that the well qualified Aussie 'aviation' candidates have received their "thanks but no thanks", so does that mean we'll get a former Coles or Wollies CEO or perhaps an expat?