Is Australia its own Worst Enemy?
Well we seem to have quite a few new detention camps springing up around the place.
If GetUp adopts a brown shirted uniform, I might just start worrying.
If GetUp adopts a brown shirted uniform, I might just start worrying.
Maybe we should be honest and call them concentration camps!!!???
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the Jumbo era has been here for years. I read that there are many 1000s who fly in and "disappear".. into the kitchens, building sites, orchards, wherever. 'Agents', lower wages and all.
Boatloads of swarthy looking people are more newsworthy than middle aged Poms, Indian cabbies and female Korean 'students' with interesting night jobs in the entertainment/service industry (Maybe Cert IV in 'Busty Jap, natural DD, friendly, I/O calls' should be VTEC approved?)
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Concentration camps LS.
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It will be interesting to see how governable Australia remains after the New Labor experiment at state and federal level has run its course.
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It will be interesting to see how governable Australia remains after the New Labor experiment at state and federal level has run its course.
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A pox on the UN A known travelling cocktail party at best or a sink of 3 rd world despotic corruption at worst. What does Australia owe this sewer? Nothing! They suck on the tit of.perceived, Western guilt when the corrupt scum of the leader ship of the recipient nations piss it all up against the wall. In 1973 I was flying a light aircraft.in Bangladesh for a maritime salvage co.(BWCC)Ship loads of relief .supplies.were. held up until import duties were paid and any new contracts needed 10%over the top for Dash !I was at a social function one night ,glass in hand as you do,when I was approached by an official of the UN( an Indian sahib )who seemed amused at my .Aussie accent.We chatted about nothing in particular for a few minutes then he almost spat out You people down there dont really think you can keep that continent.all to your selves do you? Because that when Rhodesia is gone and South Africa is crushed you lot are next.My non diplomatic reply was, in Australia we shoot on average 5million kangaroos and ferals a year most Aussies have got a rifle ,gun controls wont work so come and have ago you bl--k c--t. I then picked up my dummy then went home. He was right ,aided and abetted by our own leadership the UN are shafting this country as no declared enemy country ever could. We have to get rid of them and make our own bloody decisions to suit us.
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It will be interesting to see how governable Australia remains after the New Labor experiment at state and federal level has run its course.
It'll be governable in the same way an accident site is manageable. Situation? Casualties? Rescuables? Unavoidable losses? Ugly all 'round and bound to be a fustercluck.
As for states, ours is easy. It's broke. Absolutely frigging broke. Call anyone you know in any state department and the answer is the same; 'We'd love to help but there's no money. You'll just have to sacrifice the koalas
'. A fine predicament for the Sunshine State that's full of mines and happy fruit like pineapples and bananas. That's what years of Labor and equal years of dysfunctional opposition brings. I blame both sides equally, because I firmly believe that Queenslanders would have thrown out the ALP years ago IF there had been a viable opposition. There hasn't been, so the ALP have limped along recklessly spending more money and stuffing up more departments through partisan senior appointments and grovelling middle managers.
Now the Flood Report's out and guess what, Bligh; You
ed it Big Time! All the TV crossovers in the world to you in your moleskins aren't going to trump the footage of the Wivenhoe less than a metre below the fuseplug walls. Have you read about what happens with a dam overtop, Bligh? Have you read the uncensored version of the Dam Operating Manual where it talks about how Australia's third biggest city would completely lose its CBD and several inner suburbs to a wall of water and debris, how the power, comms and sewerage infrastructure would be destroyed beyond reapair, how one million people would be left with a few days' water that was in the pipes and absolutely nothing else? The inquiry did you a favour and nikko penned the contentious bits with the nasty fatality type stuff in the interests of 'counter terrorism'. Isn't that nice? Do you realise how ing close it got or did your flunkies hide that from you in the interests of 'warm and fuzzy'?Have you read about the impact of twice as much water as Sydney Harbour hitting Brisbane at speed plus the debris from the dam wall itself, and we're not just talking about rubble but big friggen boulders and chunks of concrete? You nearly cost the cities, guys. You nearly destroyed Brisbane and Ipswich through your ineptitude, lack of foresight, lack of balls/ovaries, policital motivations (We Believe in Water Conservation because the Courier Mail's Bogan Response Unit tells us to
) and sheer inadequacy as leaders. You couldn't even spend New Year's Eve in Rockhampton when it was devastated by floods because Joolya sent you an invitation to the Sydney Fireworks. No floods there, never mind that one of Queensland's bigger cities was underwater and might have enjoyed some fireworks and celebutards too. It didn't happen and you have the gall to pat yourselves on the back for the "Flood Response" that came from ordinary citizens while you were posing for the
ing cameras. Then you had the gall to means test donations that were made in good faith so your feral supporters were covered and wage earners were left high and muddy. If I had ever known what was going to happen to the Premier's Flood Appeal fund I would never have advertised it on Jetblast. I would have suggested (as wiser and more cynical posters did) that donations should go to Vinnies or the Salvos where political mileage is not such a priority. Anyway, rant over but to comment on your State level New Labor, I f
ing hate them. I hate them more than any Queensland government that has existed in my lifetime, even more than Joh who was likeable in a mad uncle kind of way. I hate them because I believe that they fiddled while Rome flooded, because they appointed their little mates to positions of power regardless of competence (throughout the public service in health, legal, envrironment, libraries and countless other important areas), because their ineptitude nearly destroyed the two cities and most of all...because they don't even have the decency to admit to it and still gob off on the telly about how great they are. You may have already gathered that
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Worrals I guess the difference is that visa overstayers at least had a visa one upon a time and don't have access to public funds, medicare and endless free legal advice. Doesn't make it right, but surely a refelction on a dysfunctional system if they can get away with it for so long.
I'm no fan of detention centres (by the way Northam is still just a patch of cleared bush and no more, flew over it yesterday) but do think TPVs made a lot more sense and kept us in line with the outdated UN convention, which as I understand it was for people fleeing from Communist eastern europe, if they survived the border crossing; and defecting ballet dancers and acrobats! Completely out of date now, another road to hell paved with good intentions.
I was nearly sick when I heard the "lost opportuinty" speech on the radio. A lost opportunity for this Fabian communist to do the decent thing and resign. But I guess she would like to do to the High Court what her mate Blair did to the House of Lords before she goes.
MEanwhile how many opportunities is Australia losing every day while this lot are in power. Still, it defelects attention away from the stench of the Craig Thompson scandal!
I am reminded of how she said she had more chance of playing in an AFL team than being PM etc etc etc.
I'm no fan of detention centres (by the way Northam is still just a patch of cleared bush and no more, flew over it yesterday) but do think TPVs made a lot more sense and kept us in line with the outdated UN convention, which as I understand it was for people fleeing from Communist eastern europe, if they survived the border crossing; and defecting ballet dancers and acrobats! Completely out of date now, another road to hell paved with good intentions.
I was nearly sick when I heard the "lost opportuinty" speech on the radio. A lost opportunity for this Fabian communist to do the decent thing and resign. But I guess she would like to do to the High Court what her mate Blair did to the House of Lords before she goes.
MEanwhile how many opportunities is Australia losing every day while this lot are in power. Still, it defelects attention away from the stench of the Craig Thompson scandal!
I am reminded of how she said she had more chance of playing in an AFL team than being PM etc etc etc.
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Whew! I'm near exhausted after reading Worral's carefully considered post! Try cleaning that up a bit, Worrals, and post it on Tim Blair's or Bolta's blogs.
I think the one big difference between the many overstayers and the irregular arrivals is the one CFI has already pointed out - an overstayer lives among us, making a living (perhaps holding down a job that might have gone to an Australian, but at least supporting him/herself).
An irregular arrival, on the other hand, is usually a forward scout for his extended family, the first of ten or more he/she will bring out under the family reunion scheme - and, if the report released last year is to be believed, he/she and the nine or ten who'll follow him/her into the country, in four cases out of five, will all still be firmly sucking on the public teat five years (and who knows how many years afterwards?) after 'irregularly' arriving here.
The elephant in the room, (make that 'the mammoth'), that David Manne, Sarah Hansen-Young and co. never address, is, (unlike the vast majority of overstayers), how many of these irregular arrivals have no ability - and even more importantly, no intention - of ever fitting in to our society except to know intimately the inner workings of the CentreLink system. They arrive and, to the very best of their ability, set about re-creating the society they 'escaped' from within Australian society - and demanding that Australia and Australians roll over and comply.
Some will recall that the father of the little Somali (now Australian) girl mauled to death by a pit bull terrier last week was back in Somalia 'visiting' when his child was attacked. Has any journo asked how long he'd been back in Somalia 'visiting'? (You know, Somalia, the country that was so dangerous for him that he had to escape from it with his family.)
I've heard of cases like this on many occasions, where Dad returns home to take up his business again after depositing the family in Oz, where Mum, with none or minimal English, remains with the kids. (And, five will get you ten, NOT relying totally on Dad to send funds from the old country every fortnight to survive!)
Another report last year said that 80% - eighty ***ing percent!!!! - of Tamils given permanent residency in Australia after escaping persecution in Sri Lanka return there for a visit within 12 months of receiving Australian residency.
TPVs really need to be re-introduced.
I think the one big difference between the many overstayers and the irregular arrivals is the one CFI has already pointed out - an overstayer lives among us, making a living (perhaps holding down a job that might have gone to an Australian, but at least supporting him/herself).
An irregular arrival, on the other hand, is usually a forward scout for his extended family, the first of ten or more he/she will bring out under the family reunion scheme - and, if the report released last year is to be believed, he/she and the nine or ten who'll follow him/her into the country, in four cases out of five, will all still be firmly sucking on the public teat five years (and who knows how many years afterwards?) after 'irregularly' arriving here.
The elephant in the room, (make that 'the mammoth'), that David Manne, Sarah Hansen-Young and co. never address, is, (unlike the vast majority of overstayers), how many of these irregular arrivals have no ability - and even more importantly, no intention - of ever fitting in to our society except to know intimately the inner workings of the CentreLink system. They arrive and, to the very best of their ability, set about re-creating the society they 'escaped' from within Australian society - and demanding that Australia and Australians roll over and comply.
Some will recall that the father of the little Somali (now Australian) girl mauled to death by a pit bull terrier last week was back in Somalia 'visiting' when his child was attacked. Has any journo asked how long he'd been back in Somalia 'visiting'? (You know, Somalia, the country that was so dangerous for him that he had to escape from it with his family.)
I've heard of cases like this on many occasions, where Dad returns home to take up his business again after depositing the family in Oz, where Mum, with none or minimal English, remains with the kids. (And, five will get you ten, NOT relying totally on Dad to send funds from the old country every fortnight to survive!)
Another report last year said that 80% - eighty ***ing percent!!!! - of Tamils given permanent residency in Australia after escaping persecution in Sri Lanka return there for a visit within 12 months of receiving Australian residency.
TPVs really need to be re-introduced.
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We should all be aware, that the smugglers have embarked on a boat replacement scheme.
With the courts ruling, they have have been emobledened enough to begin phase 2.
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Worrals I guess the difference is that visa overstayers at least had a visa one upon a time and don't have access to public funds, medicare and endless free legal advice.
I had no problem with the TPV system. FWIW I do see a lot of African refugees in Brisbane working, integrating and generally settling down. It's not across the board of course and it may be different in other cities, but no immigrant group is going to be 100% squeaky clean (as anyone who's dealt with Irish backpackers knows only too well, mad brawlers the lot of them and that's just the girls...
). I'm no fan of extended welfare for anyone, whether they're new to the place or 5th generation Aussies. As long as there are enough learn English programs and stuff to get people settled (and there are quite a lot of support agencies and programs that go unnoticed by the media) there should be no reason for most refugees to be out of work.
Thanks, Andu! I feel better now...
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Does anyone remember the Goofy one trying to give all of the Torres Strait Islands to PNG (All North of 10 degrees South?) I also seem to remember old Joh B-P scuppering Goofs plans by declaring the Torres Straits a municipality which are outside of Canberras sphere of influence,. therefore holding onto Aussie land rather than cede to a soon to fail state. Love the old goat or hate him at least old Joh had Australias welfare as a first priority.And I also understand when he went Qld was in the black financially..
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You couldn't make this stuff up!
Asylum 'kids' in last-gasp bid for smokes | The Australian
ASYLUM-SEEKERS claiming to be minors among the group spared deportation this week are so frustrated by a ban on smoking they are considering changing their stories to say they are adults.
Some of the 57 "unaccompanied minors" are addicted to smoking and increasingly irritated by a ban on cigarettes within their detention compound on Christmas Island, sources say.
Asylum-seeker adults are allowed to smoke by the Department of Immigration and Citizenship but this is not the case for the unaccompanied minors, with the department applying Australian laws to the group.
The source, who does not want to be named, said there were some among the males who were clearly children but others who were obviously over 18.
Some of the 57 "unaccompanied minors" are addicted to smoking and increasingly irritated by a ban on cigarettes within their detention compound on Christmas Island, sources say.
Asylum-seeker adults are allowed to smoke by the Department of Immigration and Citizenship but this is not the case for the unaccompanied minors, with the department applying Australian laws to the group.
The source, who does not want to be named, said there were some among the males who were clearly children but others who were obviously over 18.
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It has a name!!!
Does this look familiar, in anything from NBN, Global Warming a.k.a. Climate Change, pick any one of our recent Defence (non) purchases, GFC bailout?
Dunning
Maybe it could take on a sub title for us antipodeans: The Dullard-Duck Effect.
Dunning
The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to recognize their mistakes.[1] The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their own abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others" (p. 1127).[2]
The effect is about paradoxical defects in cognitive ability, both in oneself and as one compares oneself to others.
The effect is about paradoxical defects in cognitive ability, both in oneself and as one compares oneself to others.
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Juliar Gillard's refusal to stand down has been likened (on the Andrew Bolt Blog) to Peter Seller's stellar 'death scene' in his very funny movie, 'The Party'. The 'death is long lasting, if not quite as long as a Rob Oakeshott would have stretched it. 
Worth the watch (whatever your politics). Very funny.
Worth the watch (whatever your politics). Very funny.
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With the continuing nosedive of this incompetent government one wonders whether the sitcom about Joolyar and Tim due to be shown on ABC1 on Thursday will get pulled at the last minute?
I suspect that the ALP fan club at the ABC probably thought that it might give Joolyar a bit of a lift in the ratings if we, the great unwashed, were able to see her in a humorous light.
Trouble is, with a totally dysfunctional government, making a comedy about the Prime Minister is likely to backfire ....big time! Just points up the fact that she is a big joke.
I suspect that the ALP fan club at the ABC probably thought that it might give Joolyar a bit of a lift in the ratings if we, the great unwashed, were able to see her in a humorous light.
Trouble is, with a totally dysfunctional government, making a comedy about the Prime Minister is likely to backfire ....big time! Just points up the fact that she is a big joke.
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On the ABC news this morning: "New asylum seekers to be processed in Australia".
MTOW had it right a week ago - (see post 146):
On the same ABC bulletin, it said that 12% of Australians approve of the way the ALP is handling the asylum seekers problem.
Put in non-ABCspeak, that means 78% of Australians disapprove of Labor's handling of the current self-imposed asylum seeker debacle.
The boats arriving at Christmas Island are soon going to look like finals on 27R at Heathrow.
MTOW had it right a week ago - (see post 146):
While Nauru might now be back on the (very edge of the proverbial) table, I think that Labor still recognises it, no matter how much sense it may make, as absolute political suicide. For that reason, I think they'll opt for onshore processing ahead of Nauru. Even though that will be (yet another) unmitigated disaster, as once the economic immigrants are onshore, David Manne and his team will be able, at taxpayers' (great) expense, to use every trick in the book to extend their stay here.
Put in non-ABCspeak, that means 78% of Australians disapprove of Labor's handling of the current self-imposed asylum seeker debacle.
The boats arriving at Christmas Island are soon going to look like finals on 27R at Heathrow.
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An article in The Australian stated that the Solicitor General gave advice that the High Court's decision has effectively prohibited 'offshore processing.'
Is that the same Solicitor General who previously gave advice that the 'Malaysian Solution' was good and sound policy?
Indeed! One day way back in the Whitlam years I remember some politician, name now long forgotten, who stated in a long rant that some of his ilk treated the average voter as blithering idiots.
My now late Father upon hearing that comment quietly remarked,
''That's because some of them bloody well are!''
Is that the same Solicitor General who previously gave advice that the 'Malaysian Solution' was good and sound policy?
Interpret that as "12% of Australians are too probably stupid to be allowed to vote"
My now late Father upon hearing that comment quietly remarked,
''That's because some of them bloody well are!''
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The "dying swan" routine most favoured by the end procession at the Gay Mardi Gras in Sydney is probably a more accurate act describing the death throes of The Australian Labor Party.
Peter Sellers gets 100% for effort, but only 95% for artistic value.
I'll wait for Bob Brown's performance before giving any more accolades. I doubt even The Simpsons could better that or the "independants" Shakespearian rendition.
'et tu brute'
Peter Sellers gets 100% for effort, but only 95% for artistic value.
I'll wait for Bob Brown's performance before giving any more accolades. I doubt even The Simpsons could better that or the "independants" Shakespearian rendition.
'et tu brute'