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it is good that you are finishing your uni degree, it will give you something to fall back on if aviation doesn't work out for you. The best way, and probably one of the only ways is to go out there and get hours under your belt. Start small and work your way up the career ladder.
it is good that you are finishing your uni degree, it will give you something to fall back on if aviation doesn't work out for you. The best way, and probably one of the only ways is to go out there and get hours under your belt. Start small and work your way up the career ladder.
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I want to be a pilot...
Hi guys...
After going through all the pages here....I feel tht GA is the only way to join the aviation industry....I was really happy to hear abt the "REX" deal, as i thought they wud giv me a chance to , most importantly arrange for the finances for my training..which i do not hav...
sheerly, based on wht u all hav to comment abt the rex cadetship....obviously i hav made up my mind to arrange for the funds, to pursue flying through a good flying school....
i have tried bank loans....im not sure whether i'll be able to get one...though
r there ny govt. loan schemes to pursue aviation training (CPL, MECIR)...
wht other options to i hav???
which r the affordable places for training & how good r they...
Pls help me out...really need to figure this out....i am really keen on pursuing this challenging career...im 27....& looking at this as my last chance...
cheers!!!
After going through all the pages here....I feel tht GA is the only way to join the aviation industry....I was really happy to hear abt the "REX" deal, as i thought they wud giv me a chance to , most importantly arrange for the finances for my training..which i do not hav...
sheerly, based on wht u all hav to comment abt the rex cadetship....obviously i hav made up my mind to arrange for the funds, to pursue flying through a good flying school....
i have tried bank loans....im not sure whether i'll be able to get one...though
r there ny govt. loan schemes to pursue aviation training (CPL, MECIR)...
wht other options to i hav???
which r the affordable places for training & how good r they...
Pls help me out...really need to figure this out....i am really keen on pursuing this challenging career...im 27....& looking at this as my last chance...
cheers!!!
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samdajee, if you're looking for advice, at least do us the favour and write in intelligible English
most people here who have significant experience are not a member of the shorthand texting generation and actually value proper spelling and grammar, and looking at your ramblings, rightly so.
Also consider that what you post here might be your calling card for the first job, so it might not be too clever to present as one of the great unwashed..
Your predicament has been discussed at length here, have a poke around with the search function and then maybe ask some more specific questions.. the short answer is probably, do a degree or trade to have a backup/money earning capacity, or go all out and stack shelves until you land your first paying job.
most people here who have significant experience are not a member of the shorthand texting generation and actually value proper spelling and grammar, and looking at your ramblings, rightly so.Also consider that what you post here might be your calling card for the first job, so it might not be too clever to present as one of the great unwashed..
Your predicament has been discussed at length here, have a poke around with the search function and then maybe ask some more specific questions.. the short answer is probably, do a degree or trade to have a backup/money earning capacity, or go all out and stack shelves until you land your first paying job.
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You've also got to remember that this thread is for: REX Cadetship and Working for REX opinions, advice, questions and banter/rock throwing..
go_soaring! instead
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Crikey Plank', beat me too it!
samdajee. Good advice from Plankbender (Someone who knows). The debt option is often touted here. We live in a world of instant gratification, but unfortunately it can come at a heavy price. (Pun intended) At your age I worked two and at times, three jobs, and eagerly waited for the weekend to go flying.
Don't get me wrong, if there were other viable ways of funding my training at the time I would have taken them. Sometimes however you may just need to "Suck it up"!
Best of luck,
Krusty.
samdajee. Good advice from Plankbender (Someone who knows). The debt option is often touted here. We live in a world of instant gratification, but unfortunately it can come at a heavy price. (Pun intended) At your age I worked two and at times, three jobs, and eagerly waited for the weekend to go flying.
Don't get me wrong, if there were other viable ways of funding my training at the time I would have taken them. Sometimes however you may just need to "Suck it up"!
Best of luck,
Krusty.
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I want to be a pilot...
I am still keen on being a pilot & just making an effort to get all the valuable advice from people in the industry...Thank you all for your pieces of information...
I logged on to pprune searching for information on the Rex Cadetship...and after reading the comments here, thought that this would be the best place to get the right direction.
I will surely appreciate any more advice on how I can go about pursuing a successful career in aviation.
Thanks...
I logged on to pprune searching for information on the Rex Cadetship...and after reading the comments here, thought that this would be the best place to get the right direction.
I will surely appreciate any more advice on how I can go about pursuing a successful career in aviation.
Thanks...
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I got a low interest loan at the end of last year from the NAB, at the time it was the only defered student loan at the time, with the 1st payment due 3 months after you finish any full time course. they write the cheque to the school and it can be used for your flying hours, you will have to come up with the rest, hope this helps.
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Thanks mate...I am looking out for bank loans, private loans, etc....do you know of any govt. aided flying courses...Banks also require the flying school to be on the list of registered training organisations list (RTOs) not sure many flying schools come under that list...anyways thank you....
cheers...
cheers...
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Direct copy and paste from my post from 'Rex Cadets'...
G'day All,
I've recently had a few PM's, and thought that I'd just copy paste one of my replies + a bit of editing to fit. Hope it helps, and others if there's anything below that is not quite right, then please correct. The 150hrs max ICUS logging be one that you pick me up on.
It's great to see plenty with this enthusiasm, and attitude towards this opportunity that you've made happen for yourself. Should you choose to go ahead with the cadet scheme, I think many will do really well for as long as the desire stays with them. This may also see you unstuck as well! The problem being is that while I can see plenty are trying to take on the advice from others, it's also hard to 'take the blinkers off' so to say and see things from a different light/direction.
I personally looked into the cadet scheme's when I was 17 also, but after talking with my peers (747/777 Captains through the gliding world) and seeing the price tags I decided to go the traditional route - plus it was going to be a lot more fun!
Just going on my experience and a few phone calls prior to answering your request, this is my and trusted friends views/comments/thoughts..
To log ICUS, you must first have a command endorsement on that particular type of aircraft. Each and every pilot who goes through the induction and flying training @ REX gets a command endorsement. "Great", I hear you say, the only problem is that you need an ATPL to fly an aircraft in Australia over 5700kg (with a very few exceptions, like a freight metro aircraft for example??).
My experience was this in REX. Started with the company with 465hrs of that was command multi-engine time under the IF Rules. I had zero ATPL subjects to my name.
I was not allowed to start my command training, until I had all my ATPL's completed (as that was all that I required to gain the license, seeing I already had the hourly minimums completed). So I hear you say, but you didn't have your 500Multi-Command. Quite correct, but I had a full ATPL and my command training would take me across the line by the end of my training.
I'm not sure of this, but think one is only allowed to log up to 150hrs ICUS towards his/hers 500MC..? As there was a case where a pilot from SA was allowed to do his command training starting with 350MC.
Another example, a very good friend of mine was not allowed to do his command training at REX until he had the hot little license in his hands. What was holding him back? He didn't have the 100hrs Night time to hold an ATPL. What did the company offer him? They requested him to pay (via a loan from REX) for 10hrs of night circuits in the cadets aircraft to get him the him the license so he could fly from the LHS.
So having said all that, and from my experience I don’t believe that you'll be able to get the command time up (that will be a killer, the night and instrument time wont be a problem as they all go towards your ATPL in the long run from the RHS).
How can you get your command time up to gain an ATPL? There is one option that I can see will work for you! You can log up to 750hrs of gliding time towards your ATPL . Join a gliding club, learn to glide (will be cheap after you get your license as you'll already know how to pole an aircraft around the sky) and accrue your hours that way.
So how will you get into the LHS @ REX? Well, who knows with that one. If they do the right thing by the cadets (ie, the ones with an ATPL) then you maybe able to do 500hours ICUS from the LHS with a training captain in the RHS (ie, fair dinkum ICUS, and not dodgy stuff) but only if the 150hrs ICUS thing I'm thinking about is false/doesn't apply.
Or they might shaft you, and say that they can't spare a training captain for 500hrs ICUS to get you the required hrs and therefore stay as FO for a friggin long time, if not indefinitely.
The cadet scheme will be sweet for some time, you'll get your license, get converted to the SF34 and fly the line, have a ball and make some good friends. What will get you down around year 3 of flying the line is you'll be thinking "hey, this isn't fair. I've been flying the SF34 for 3 years now busting my gut, I know the plane back to front. How the *&$# can joe blogs step over me when he's only got 1 year on type!?"
The problem of money will become an issue, it did for me. My first job was accommodation and breakfast, the rest was out of pocket. My 2nd job was accom, car and $100 a week. Third job $250wk + food, accom and a car. So on, so forth until I got into REX (year 5-6!) and was only paid $42k/yr + DTA to live in SY (the 3rd most expensive city in the world to live in). All my friends were earning more money than I was, enjoying more creature comforts, having what seemed a better time (partying, girls, holidays, etc) - my sister (3 years younger) has earnt more than me for my whole life, until now!
I had a wonderful time in REX, they will train you up brilliantly and prepare you for some more flying opportunities in the future. Like I said, the people were/are awesome and think it's the only thing that holds the place together. My time in REX was happy, though others live to complain and make it hard for those who enjoy what they do.
I was fortunate enough to have my parents pay for my training, but from there on it was up to me. You may not be in the same situation and this maybe the best opportunity for you now. Many others in the past slaved away with 2-3 jobs for 2-3years to pay for their licenses. So I can understand in wanting to get stuck into your license now, as it's just 'easier'. Though the penalty down the track may make it not worth it.
Hard one I know, but it'll be up to you to make that decision. Personally, if I could have my time over again from the present day. I'd do the same thing I did 6-7years ago, train at a flying school, go bush, have a blast, scare myself again, meet some mates and work myself up the food chain! I think the risk vs reward with the REX cadet scheme is too great.
My 2cents,
go_soaring! instead
P.s. What I really think will happen with the REX cadets is that they'll get 1500hrs co-pilot time, then apply to QF! The problem with this is that you'll have then put all your eggs into one basket. If QF don't take you on, then no other major will. The piston world probably wont be too keen on taking you either, as you'll 90% likely have forgotten how to operate them!?
G'day All,
I've recently had a few PM's, and thought that I'd just copy paste one of my replies + a bit of editing to fit. Hope it helps, and others if there's anything below that is not quite right, then please correct. The 150hrs max ICUS logging be one that you pick me up on.
It's great to see plenty with this enthusiasm, and attitude towards this opportunity that you've made happen for yourself. Should you choose to go ahead with the cadet scheme, I think many will do really well for as long as the desire stays with them. This may also see you unstuck as well! The problem being is that while I can see plenty are trying to take on the advice from others, it's also hard to 'take the blinkers off' so to say and see things from a different light/direction.
I personally looked into the cadet scheme's when I was 17 also, but after talking with my peers (747/777 Captains through the gliding world) and seeing the price tags I decided to go the traditional route - plus it was going to be a lot more fun!
Just going on my experience and a few phone calls prior to answering your request, this is my and trusted friends views/comments/thoughts..
To log ICUS, you must first have a command endorsement on that particular type of aircraft. Each and every pilot who goes through the induction and flying training @ REX gets a command endorsement. "Great", I hear you say, the only problem is that you need an ATPL to fly an aircraft in Australia over 5700kg (with a very few exceptions, like a freight metro aircraft for example??).
My experience was this in REX. Started with the company with 465hrs of that was command multi-engine time under the IF Rules. I had zero ATPL subjects to my name.
I was not allowed to start my command training, until I had all my ATPL's completed (as that was all that I required to gain the license, seeing I already had the hourly minimums completed). So I hear you say, but you didn't have your 500Multi-Command. Quite correct, but I had a full ATPL and my command training would take me across the line by the end of my training.
I'm not sure of this, but think one is only allowed to log up to 150hrs ICUS towards his/hers 500MC..? As there was a case where a pilot from SA was allowed to do his command training starting with 350MC.
Another example, a very good friend of mine was not allowed to do his command training at REX until he had the hot little license in his hands. What was holding him back? He didn't have the 100hrs Night time to hold an ATPL. What did the company offer him? They requested him to pay (via a loan from REX) for 10hrs of night circuits in the cadets aircraft to get him the him the license so he could fly from the LHS.
So having said all that, and from my experience I don’t believe that you'll be able to get the command time up (that will be a killer, the night and instrument time wont be a problem as they all go towards your ATPL in the long run from the RHS).
How can you get your command time up to gain an ATPL? There is one option that I can see will work for you! You can log up to 750hrs of gliding time towards your ATPL . Join a gliding club, learn to glide (will be cheap after you get your license as you'll already know how to pole an aircraft around the sky) and accrue your hours that way.
So how will you get into the LHS @ REX? Well, who knows with that one. If they do the right thing by the cadets (ie, the ones with an ATPL) then you maybe able to do 500hours ICUS from the LHS with a training captain in the RHS (ie, fair dinkum ICUS, and not dodgy stuff) but only if the 150hrs ICUS thing I'm thinking about is false/doesn't apply.
Or they might shaft you, and say that they can't spare a training captain for 500hrs ICUS to get you the required hrs and therefore stay as FO for a friggin long time, if not indefinitely.
The cadet scheme will be sweet for some time, you'll get your license, get converted to the SF34 and fly the line, have a ball and make some good friends. What will get you down around year 3 of flying the line is you'll be thinking "hey, this isn't fair. I've been flying the SF34 for 3 years now busting my gut, I know the plane back to front. How the *&$# can joe blogs step over me when he's only got 1 year on type!?"
The problem of money will become an issue, it did for me. My first job was accommodation and breakfast, the rest was out of pocket. My 2nd job was accom, car and $100 a week. Third job $250wk + food, accom and a car. So on, so forth until I got into REX (year 5-6!) and was only paid $42k/yr + DTA to live in SY (the 3rd most expensive city in the world to live in). All my friends were earning more money than I was, enjoying more creature comforts, having what seemed a better time (partying, girls, holidays, etc) - my sister (3 years younger) has earnt more than me for my whole life, until now!
I had a wonderful time in REX, they will train you up brilliantly and prepare you for some more flying opportunities in the future. Like I said, the people were/are awesome and think it's the only thing that holds the place together. My time in REX was happy, though others live to complain and make it hard for those who enjoy what they do.
I was fortunate enough to have my parents pay for my training, but from there on it was up to me. You may not be in the same situation and this maybe the best opportunity for you now. Many others in the past slaved away with 2-3 jobs for 2-3years to pay for their licenses. So I can understand in wanting to get stuck into your license now, as it's just 'easier'. Though the penalty down the track may make it not worth it.
Hard one I know, but it'll be up to you to make that decision. Personally, if I could have my time over again from the present day. I'd do the same thing I did 6-7years ago, train at a flying school, go bush, have a blast, scare myself again, meet some mates and work myself up the food chain! I think the risk vs reward with the REX cadet scheme is too great.
My 2cents,
go_soaring! instead
P.s. What I really think will happen with the REX cadets is that they'll get 1500hrs co-pilot time, then apply to QF! The problem with this is that you'll have then put all your eggs into one basket. If QF don't take you on, then no other major will. The piston world probably wont be too keen on taking you either, as you'll 90% likely have forgotten how to operate them!?
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What I find ironical is that REX implements this cadet program to solve the problem with their pilots leaving and moving on to greener pastures. And here in this thread we have cadets and potential cadets, who have not even laid one foot in a Saab or metro flight deck, plotting how they can best leave the company to move on to greener pastures with the majors! LOL! What a joke!
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Lismore Rex Base
Can anyone tell me whether REX still base pilots in Lismore?
And while on the topic, anyone know of any established GA operators in the Lismore/Ballina/Byron area?
Thanks.
And while on the topic, anyone know of any established GA operators in the Lismore/Ballina/Byron area?
Thanks.
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Command Hours Prerequisite
I believe most people are missing the process that REX uses to get command in 3-4 years for cadets. You see REX Group has various companies such as the flight training academy which is shuffles its cadets around to gain the required hours to hold command, then the cadet can come back to REX and be in the LHS. Its all there in the FAQ, just seems some people went straight of the opinions of others.
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You see REX Group has various companies such as the flight training academy which is shuffles its cadets around to gain the required hours to hold command
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Who's going to pay for the rating?
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And for all of the cadets to build their command time as instructors........how many instructors would that make per student at the academy???? Please!! And if REX is "paying" 
for the rating, what is it going to be, bonded for another couple of years???
Please!! And if REX is "paying" for the rating, what is it going to be, bonded for another couple of years???
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I am assuming you get your rating free of charge, it would be beneficial for REX to have more Capt. They might add a year on or give you a loan but its worth it for those valuable command hours and the extra pay. Seems the REX cadetship is an appealing option now...