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Just for laughs
Hi guysI was sent this link in an e-mail, which by the history of it has really been doing the rounds..... I believe this video shows that the majority of the australian public are behind ALL qantas workers as we stand up for our right to better conditions and equally to save the big Q from fading into the memories of us all. To all the members of the public out there who see me in my uniform on my way home from work and sympathise with our position i say a huge THANKYOU. And to managment who's ultimate goal is to destroy a truly Australian icon i say "you're all bums" and the datum of un-australian. All should view the link below to de-stress and enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WSJop5sG2c
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Black Panther,
Don't believe everything you read re-ATCs going for 40-60%.
We are about to go through the same thing as you. Place surviving on O/T,staffing allowed to run down , better money OS, lack of payrises since 911, managers spouting doom and gloom whilst rewarding themselves with huge increases, ill thought out projects that cost heaps whilst delivering little or negatively impacting the bottom line, lack of ongoing training. Lack of accountability at the top and expecting us to run the place on goodwill, BS press releases that make sensationalist reading but are far from the truth.
I have been very impressed with SP and your executive, and wish you all the best.
Don't believe everything you read re-ATCs going for 40-60%.
We are about to go through the same thing as you. Place surviving on O/T,staffing allowed to run down , better money OS, lack of payrises since 911, managers spouting doom and gloom whilst rewarding themselves with huge increases, ill thought out projects that cost heaps whilst delivering little or negatively impacting the bottom line, lack of ongoing training. Lack of accountability at the top and expecting us to run the place on goodwill, BS press releases that make sensationalist reading but are far from the truth.
I have been very impressed with SP and your executive, and wish you all the best.
Lets all just sit back now for the weekend if lucky enough to be off,im sure that after the meeting yesterday there will be lots going on behind closed doors,all take the advice of the fed sec and even though we might feel we are being fed crap again by qf, lets go with the flow as far as waiting for the next meeting-if it proves to be a fizzer well im sure the assoc will have no hesitation in letting everyone know and the approtriate action can be taken but lets not make ourselves the villains here-we have proven our good faith,lets make the other side show it now.
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This weekend its Footy, V8's, down some suds and enjoy life with the Family.
If working it's PPM, AMM, MEL, DDG, EA, ATP & home on time.
Let Geoff do the stressing out.
If working it's PPM, AMM, MEL, DDG, EA, ATP & home on time.
Let Geoff do the stressing out.
Re: Wanty's post #2087
Yeah, Monty Burns face fits for that role. I also heard that the 'dried wound' alternative workforce are taking special qantas acting training and receiving 'orals' from the Civil Actors Safety Authority because they want to play themselves in the ABC docudrama 'The Sky's The Limit'. Apparently they want to prevent the industrial action by Actors represented by the Australian Actors Guild having any effect on the production of the show!
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I am sure you all know the Army of one... thought i post it again....
Written from a pilot point of view
Fits to engineers perspective, with a few modifications
I am an Army of One
I am an army of One - A Captain in the Continental Airlines army.
For years I was a loyal soldier in Gordon's army. Now I fight my own war.
I used to feel valued and respected. Now I know I am mere fodder.
They (CAL) used to exhibit labor leadership. Now they exploit legal
loopholes.
They used to enjoy my maximum. Now they will suffer my minimum.
I am an army of One.
I used to save CAL a thousand pounds of fuel per leg; finding the best FL,
getting direct routing, throttling back when on-time was made, skimping
during ground ops, adjusting for winds, being smart and giving the company
every effort I could conjure. Now, it's "burn baby, burn".
I used to call maintenance while airborne, so the part would be ready at the
gate. Now, they'll find the write-up when they look in the book.
I used to try to fix problems in the system, now I sit and watch as the
miscues pile up.
I used to fly sick. Now I use my sick days, on short notice, on the worst
day of the month.
I am an army of One.
I used to start the APU at the last possible moment. Now my customers enjoy extreme comfort.
I used to let the price of fuel at out-stations affect my fuel orders. I
still do.
I used to cover mistakes by operations. Now I watch them unfold.
I used to hustle to ensure an on-time arrival, to make us the best. Now I do
it for the rampers and agents who need the bonus money..but this too may
change.
I used to call dispatch for rerouting, to head off ground delays for bad
weather. Now I collect overs, number 35 in line for takeoff.
I am on a new mission - to demonstrate that misguided leadership of
indifference and disrespect has a cost. It's about character, not contracts.
It's about leading by taking care of your people instead of leadership by
bean counters (an oxymoron). With acts of omission, not commission, I am a
one-man wrecking crew - an army of One. My mission used to be to make CAL rich. Now it's to make CAL pay.
When they furlough more pilots than the rest, pilots that cost them 60 cents
on the dollar - I will make them pay.
When they under-staff bases and over-work reserves to keep pilots
downgraded, down-flowed, or downtrodden - I will make them pay.
When over-booked customers are denied boarding system wide, while jets are parked in the desert - I will make them pay.
When they force pilots, who have waited 12 years to become captains, to be FOs again - I will make them pay.
When they ask CAL pilots to show leadership at Express, and then deny them longevity - I will make them pay.
When they recall F/As for the summer, just to furlough them again in the
fall like migrant workers - I will make them pay.
When they constantly violate the letter and spirit of our contract - a
contract that's a bargain by any measure, and force us to fight lengthy
grievances - I will make them pay.
My negotiating committee speaks for me, but I act on my own. I am a walking nightmare to the bean counters that made me. Are you listening? This mercenary has a lot of years left with this company; how long can you afford to keep me bitter? I'm not looking for clauses in a contract, I'm looking
for a culture of commitment and caring. When I see it, I'll be a soldier for
CAL again. Until then, I am an Army of One.And I'm not alone!
Written from a pilot point of view
Fits to engineers perspective, with a few modifications
I am an Army of One
I am an army of One - A Captain in the Continental Airlines army.
For years I was a loyal soldier in Gordon's army. Now I fight my own war.
I used to feel valued and respected. Now I know I am mere fodder.
They (CAL) used to exhibit labor leadership. Now they exploit legal
loopholes.
They used to enjoy my maximum. Now they will suffer my minimum.
I am an army of One.
I used to save CAL a thousand pounds of fuel per leg; finding the best FL,
getting direct routing, throttling back when on-time was made, skimping
during ground ops, adjusting for winds, being smart and giving the company
every effort I could conjure. Now, it's "burn baby, burn".
I used to call maintenance while airborne, so the part would be ready at the
gate. Now, they'll find the write-up when they look in the book.
I used to try to fix problems in the system, now I sit and watch as the
miscues pile up.
I used to fly sick. Now I use my sick days, on short notice, on the worst
day of the month.
I am an army of One.
I used to start the APU at the last possible moment. Now my customers enjoy extreme comfort.
I used to let the price of fuel at out-stations affect my fuel orders. I
still do.
I used to cover mistakes by operations. Now I watch them unfold.
I used to hustle to ensure an on-time arrival, to make us the best. Now I do
it for the rampers and agents who need the bonus money..but this too may
change.
I used to call dispatch for rerouting, to head off ground delays for bad
weather. Now I collect overs, number 35 in line for takeoff.
I am on a new mission - to demonstrate that misguided leadership of
indifference and disrespect has a cost. It's about character, not contracts.
It's about leading by taking care of your people instead of leadership by
bean counters (an oxymoron). With acts of omission, not commission, I am a
one-man wrecking crew - an army of One. My mission used to be to make CAL rich. Now it's to make CAL pay.
When they furlough more pilots than the rest, pilots that cost them 60 cents
on the dollar - I will make them pay.
When they under-staff bases and over-work reserves to keep pilots
downgraded, down-flowed, or downtrodden - I will make them pay.
When over-booked customers are denied boarding system wide, while jets are parked in the desert - I will make them pay.
When they force pilots, who have waited 12 years to become captains, to be FOs again - I will make them pay.
When they ask CAL pilots to show leadership at Express, and then deny them longevity - I will make them pay.
When they recall F/As for the summer, just to furlough them again in the
fall like migrant workers - I will make them pay.
When they constantly violate the letter and spirit of our contract - a
contract that's a bargain by any measure, and force us to fight lengthy
grievances - I will make them pay.
My negotiating committee speaks for me, but I act on my own. I am a walking nightmare to the bean counters that made me. Are you listening? This mercenary has a lot of years left with this company; how long can you afford to keep me bitter? I'm not looking for clauses in a contract, I'm looking
for a culture of commitment and caring. When I see it, I'll be a soldier for
CAL again. Until then, I am an Army of One.And I'm not alone!
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I am an army of many,
36,000 odd.
Together we will fight the tyranny of the greedy few.
We will resurrect the phoenix of Qantas
The greedy will die on their swords.
I am an army of many.
PS
4 1/2 days for a classic 747 A check, what is the story? (EBY post-HKG C chk)
36,000 odd.
Together we will fight the tyranny of the greedy few.
We will resurrect the phoenix of Qantas
The greedy will die on their swords.
I am an army of many.
PS
4 1/2 days for a classic 747 A check, what is the story? (EBY post-HKG C chk)
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ok, heres the thing. Whilst most of my ACS brothers are holding steadfast and not helping the company as much as possible there are certain QF lames in Avalon extending themselves beyond the call of duty and accepting shift changes to maintain the schedule. Althought i know it is not in the PIA, come on! An a/c was also sent to AVV because of a fuel inbalance problem, happened to get departed by a crew on OT, and guess what? it made its schedule to do a SYD-LAX.
FED SEC, please put in place a TOTAL overtime ban next week if these so called good faith meeting end in the way we all think! Some AVV personal have no spines, are managers pets, and are snaking my brothers .Doing us all an injustice when they undermine PIA of OT bans on days off by changing shifts to accom. the schedule. We need more involvment by HEAVY MAINT in this.
stand tall my brothers, we will win the battle and the war.
FED SEC, please put in place a TOTAL overtime ban next week if these so called good faith meeting end in the way we all think! Some AVV personal have no spines, are managers pets, and are snaking my brothers .Doing us all an injustice when they undermine PIA of OT bans on days off by changing shifts to accom. the schedule. We need more involvment by HEAVY MAINT in this.
stand tall my brothers, we will win the battle and the war.
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The price of crude oil is rising, but once again what has this to do with our wage claim?
AND, the US economy is slowing, according to Prez Dubya. If it's slowing, the world economy will slow, as will demand. If supply is maxed out and demand decreases, then simple economics states that the oil price will fall.
So hang tough. GD knows all this and is milking the current high prices for all they're worth. He had $125 million in the bank to waste on beating us. So lets help him chew through it!
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Re Fuel Increase, Surely the way the dollar is (AUD v's USD), hedging and the fact that QF just passes on a surcharge to the pax, most of the "fuel crissis" from QF is just propaganda. ACTU leaflets from the stop work meetings suggested that QF are actually 1.6% better off!
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The New Team IN FNQ
A special day for one leading hand in CNS, as he was the last of the redundant batch to take the cash after 30 years of service,happy days kenny.
A very sad day for a station who once was very proud to be called a can do station.(just ask any classic capt)
Apon handing the used uniforms,Id and Qf paper work to one of the DMM's
(or some would say narcissist basta
)he was told he now does not work for QF any more and that they did not want him contacting or socialising with any of his QF colleagues.
These are the kind of people that are now in charge of what once was a great engineering company.(ooh, maybe that's called a Murray moment)
As for the other Dmm at cns, he was planning how to spend the cash from all the overtime he and his mate are doing.
Happy retirement kenny, very sad no support from QF.
A very sad day for a station who once was very proud to be called a can do station.(just ask any classic capt)
Apon handing the used uniforms,Id and Qf paper work to one of the DMM's
(or some would say narcissist basta
)he was told he now does not work for QF any more and that they did not want him contacting or socialising with any of his QF colleagues.These are the kind of people that are now in charge of what once was a great engineering company.(ooh, maybe that's called a Murray moment)
As for the other Dmm at cns, he was planning how to spend the cash from all the overtime he and his mate are doing.
Happy retirement kenny, very sad no support from QF.
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Surely Not
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Surely this couldn't happen.I cant believe that after 30yrs of service someone would be treated like that. Is this FNQ port you are talking about cairns???
Surely this couldn't happen.I cant believe that after 30yrs of service someone would be treated like that. Is this FNQ port you are talking about cairns???
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Times Have Changed
Being from maint watch Syd, I can remember when we could count on Cairns to get the job done. Sounds like times have really changed up there. What is the reason for this?? When AO 767's where based there we could get everything done. That was only 2yr's ago. The only thing thats changed is the management,they must be responsible for the sub standard performance of the station.