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Listen too you all, you still dont know what the offer is and your giving each other high fives.F.ck the 3% plus shiny bits, should be 5% with no exceptions..Going to get fu..ed over again..
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If we all get 3% each year with 2% shiny baubles, our base pay rate will still be 8% behind after the 4 year agreement.
My thanks to the exec for all their hard work, but I want to look to the long term, and anything less than 5% pa will not cut it.
As for goodwill towards the company, nothing short of a full apology from all the management involved and maybe a few forced resignations will bring that back.
Until Monday MAINTAIN THE RAGE.
My thanks to the exec for all their hard work, but I want to look to the long term, and anything less than 5% pa will not cut it.
As for goodwill towards the company, nothing short of a full apology from all the management involved and maybe a few forced resignations will bring that back.
Until Monday MAINTAIN THE RAGE.
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Quote - "PIA Lifted, in-principle agreement -- ha!"
hhhhmmmmm............... as the saying goes "I will be out of the office until 0600 Monday", you won't be able to contact me, sorry about that Chief.
I apologise for my cynicism, 18 months takes a long time to heal.
See ya, I'm going bush, back soon.
hhhhmmmmm............... as the saying goes "I will be out of the office until 0600 Monday", you won't be able to contact me, sorry about that Chief.
I apologise for my cynicism, 18 months takes a long time to heal.
See ya, I'm going bush, back soon.
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Originally Posted by lordofthertings
Listen too you all, you still dont know what the offer is and your giving each other high fives.F.ck the 3% plus shiny bits, should be 5% with no exceptions..Going to get fu..ed over again..
If you're on $100K, does it really matter if you get 5% or 3% + 1% "productivity increase" + 1% "special circumstances" increase ?
If we get "fu..ed over again" it'll only be OUR OWN FAULT for voting yes.
My reading of the membership is that we're not going to bend over and take it again
!!!Come Monday, either SP will be a hero, or the company will really find out what 1500 pi
ed off engineers are like to deal with 
!!!Let's wait 'till then !!
SpannerTwister
from 15MAY2008. (sorry cannot seem to quote)
Relax fellas. The intent of the PIA was to bring Management to the negotiating table. If this happens on day 1, so much the better. SP knows the target value of the deal. Dixon has made some very inflamatory remarks in the press over the last week....... Who knows and who cares as long as we get an acceptable deal......... Our overtime bans alone would hurt the company significantly. Life style changes are a personal issue for many. Lets do our job to the best of our ability and act in a professional manner at all times. Let SP and Sharon do theirs and let our professionalism support their efforts. Until an agreement in principle is signed, our PIA will remain in force and the sole purpose of the PIA is to achieve a reasonable deal, not to bloody noses or to remove management.
Stay cool. Stay calm. Support your executive and your peers desires for a better deal.
Guys, relax. Have faith that Steve P and his committee members are doing their best for all of us. I personally would not be able to put up with what they have the last 2 years. For their efforts in that alone I am greatful. Await their notice setting out the details and do not exhibit any sour grapes if you do not get what you expected or indeed what some of us have demanded in this forum. A good deal for all was always going to be the objective of the union. If it means 3% plus double trinkets or a deal made up in some other way then so be it. Be patient and wait for the details. They have been a long time coming and we should respect the efforts of the committee by exhibiting some control over our individual emotions. Give nothing to the company spys who read this forum.
Relax fellas. The intent of the PIA was to bring Management to the negotiating table. If this happens on day 1, so much the better. SP knows the target value of the deal. Dixon has made some very inflamatory remarks in the press over the last week....... Who knows and who cares as long as we get an acceptable deal......... Our overtime bans alone would hurt the company significantly. Life style changes are a personal issue for many. Lets do our job to the best of our ability and act in a professional manner at all times. Let SP and Sharon do theirs and let our professionalism support their efforts. Until an agreement in principle is signed, our PIA will remain in force and the sole purpose of the PIA is to achieve a reasonable deal, not to bloody noses or to remove management.
Stay cool. Stay calm. Support your executive and your peers desires for a better deal.
Guys, relax. Have faith that Steve P and his committee members are doing their best for all of us. I personally would not be able to put up with what they have the last 2 years. For their efforts in that alone I am greatful. Await their notice setting out the details and do not exhibit any sour grapes if you do not get what you expected or indeed what some of us have demanded in this forum. A good deal for all was always going to be the objective of the union. If it means 3% plus double trinkets or a deal made up in some other way then so be it. Be patient and wait for the details. They have been a long time coming and we should respect the efforts of the committee by exhibiting some control over our individual emotions. Give nothing to the company spys who read this forum.
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June 12, 2005
3000 jobs at Qantas put at risk
By Phillip Hudson
June 12, 2005
The Sun-Herald
Qantas has told the Federal Government that up to 3000 jobs could be at risk and some aircraft maintenance moved overseas if it suffered a major hit to its profitability such as extra competition on the Pacific route to the US.
Qantas chairman Margaret Jackson and chief executive Geoff Dixon have warned the Government the airline is facing long-term pressures, particularly aggressive competition from Emirates Airlines. A boost for Singapore Airlines could wipe as much as $50 million off profits and "hasten" job losses. One source said Qantas left no doubt it would blame the Government.
By Phillip Hudson
June 12, 2005
The Sun-Herald
Qantas has told the Federal Government that up to 3000 jobs could be at risk and some aircraft maintenance moved overseas if it suffered a major hit to its profitability such as extra competition on the Pacific route to the US.
Qantas chairman Margaret Jackson and chief executive Geoff Dixon have warned the Government the airline is facing long-term pressures, particularly aggressive competition from Emirates Airlines. A boost for Singapore Airlines could wipe as much as $50 million off profits and "hasten" job losses. One source said Qantas left no doubt it would blame the Government.
And yet Qantas makes record profits year after year.
The more things change, the more they stay the same...........
Congratulations!!!!!
QANTAS has done a wonderful thing!
Needless to say they where greatly assisted by the Special Performance team. The deed which has finally been achieved is unity!
Unity of all QF LAMEs!!!
Never before has the unity and morale been more evident!!!!!
No matter what the outcome of Monday's detail reveals we must ensure that the unity and morale only grow!!!
P.S. I must admit that I am sceptical and unfortunately feel that it will be a long, long time, if ever, before this most recent betrayal by QANTAS is forgotten!!!
Needless to say they where greatly assisted by the Special Performance team. The deed which has finally been achieved is unity!
Unity of all QF LAMEs!!!
Never before has the unity and morale been more evident!!!!!
No matter what the outcome of Monday's detail reveals we must ensure that the unity and morale only grow!!!
P.S. I must admit that I am sceptical and unfortunately feel that it will be a long, long time, if ever, before this most recent betrayal by QANTAS is forgotten!!!
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union notice
Union notice just out. Is interesting to hear that our ot bans did have them by the short and curlies, alternate arrangements couldn't cover our lack of ot manhours.
Still not sure what to make of it all. Monday will tell all.
Once again, just a note of appreciation for the whole exec of the ALAEA for their work over the last 2 years. Our last exec election was the right choice.
Still not sure what to make of it all. Monday will tell all.
Once again, just a note of appreciation for the whole exec of the ALAEA for their work over the last 2 years. Our last exec election was the right choice.
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Right on cue...Scrotum face signs up in-pinciple agreements with the pilots and engineers unions, and the oil price falls 17%.
Stick to your guns, guys. Don't let the momentum of an imminent resolution take your eyes and unity off the real and deserved outcome. You have been here before. Good luck.
Stick to your guns, guys. Don't let the momentum of an imminent resolution take your eyes and unity off the real and deserved outcome. You have been here before. Good luck.
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It wasn't a great piece, trying to compare Qantas and Tiger,
Rip the punters off and give them nothing.
The shareholder is God, remember.
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Yeah, good to see DC's @rse pucker again.
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Agreement??????????????
Just saw a news article that intimated that Qantas had reached agreements with both the pilots and the engineers.
Any true to this?
Any true to this?
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"He made it clear that the job cuts would come from middle management and that front-line staff shouldn't be too concerned," a source said.
I think anyone in management on those 2 year contracts are in the firing line. No VR payments, just get rid of them for free. Cheap, cheap. No extra flight delays either.
LAME’s, mmm very expensive to get rid of plus our OT bans alone were enough to bring the on time performance to the ground.
Too bad really, I thing there are a lot of lame’s keen for a package. There are still those of us that did not get VR from the last round.
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I am sharpening up the stick and setting it up in the
front yard so when they deliver M's head I will
have somewhere ready to put it.
Middle management empire building and
ass covering bull**** (sorry tailwheel) has gone
a real long way towards the downfall of QF.
Maybe i should sharpen another, if I got
DC's head as well it could make a great
garden feature.
Now if they were both still alive and talking
then I would have the worlds first self
fertilizing garden!!!
Maintain the Rage!!
PS
To SP and the boys
When this is all over feel free to come over to my
place and have a beer in my new garden.
TX for all your work
front yard so when they deliver M's head I will
have somewhere ready to put it.
Middle management empire building and
ass covering bull**** (sorry tailwheel) has gone
a real long way towards the downfall of QF.
Maybe i should sharpen another, if I got
DC's head as well it could make a great
garden feature.
Now if they were both still alive and talking
then I would have the worlds first self
fertilizing garden!!!
Maintain the Rage!!
PS
To SP and the boys
When this is all over feel free to come over to my
place and have a beer in my new garden.
TX for all your work
Last edited by acslame; 18th Jul 2008 at 10:49.