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6th June 2008, 06:11
12th July 2008, 20:41
Originally Posted by cpiom
As I have previuosly said we the passangers don't care who causes us inconvenience, when we are told it is the mechanics, as far as we are concerned it is you! In the last couple of weeks that is the same announcement that comes over the PA over and over again.
Originally Posted by cpiom
Yes I am a LAME in Syd and no I will not walk out when the rest of you do.
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[quote=cpiom; And to the gutless QF trainer from QF training Syd who used his privileges to send the list of the alternative workforce people being trained to the ALAEA[/quote]
cpiom, The only gutless people in this situation here are the ALTERNATIVE WORKFORCE OR SCABS, who want their names kept out of the public domain. Why is that ??? Therein lies the definition of GUTLESS.
cpiom, The only gutless people in this situation here are the ALTERNATIVE WORKFORCE OR SCABS, who want their names kept out of the public domain. Why is that ??? Therein lies the definition of GUTLESS.
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Australia: Unions give Qantas a "breathing space" to prepare fresh assault on engineers
I think all ALAEA members should read this article, then think what the next step should be and then...........
Maintain the Rage
I think all ALAEA members should read this article, then think what the next step should be and then...........
Maintain the Rage
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Well, if nothing else we now know CPIOM has a very poor informations source.
False accusations, slander, a touch of racism..
.treading a VERY fine line there mate....in fact, with such a detailed description I can only think of one guy in boros who fits it, so I guess if he now encounters abuse or trouble because of your post you're in the same sticky spot as Mendaero........especially if he chooses to report you to the authorities........
Wrong section for Mendaero mate. I'm pretty sure I know the guy you are accusing and you are WAY off the mark. He does post here but certainly isn't Mendaero and certainly doesn't have ANY inside knowledge of union activities as it seemed Mendaero did.
But then if you don't believe me I'm sure he'd love to see you grow some balls and accuse him to his face!
False accusations, slander, a touch of racism..
.treading a VERY fine line there mate....in fact, with such a detailed description I can only think of one guy in boros who fits it, so I guess if he now encounters abuse or trouble because of your post you're in the same sticky spot as Mendaero........especially if he chooses to report you to the authorities........Wrong section for Mendaero mate. I'm pretty sure I know the guy you are accusing and you are WAY off the mark. He does post here but certainly isn't Mendaero and certainly doesn't have ANY inside knowledge of union activities as it seemed Mendaero did.
But then if you don't believe me I'm sure he'd love to see you grow some balls and accuse him to his face!
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Who cares about the scab list anyhow, it's easy to see
which side of the fence one sits.
You are either with the lames, or against them.
Unlike management, when this is over, the lames will not
forget your actions that have prolonged this dispute.
which side of the fence one sits.
You are either with the lames, or against them.
Unlike management, when this is over, the lames will not
forget your actions that have prolonged this dispute.
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FOGnSunfish
You guys are such a yawn, and you somehow think others dont know who you might be - 
? I now understand why you think you are untouchabe because you feel safe that you wont be part of any adverse fall out from this stupid strategy - good for you, such bravery. By the way, threatened anybody near the tool crib lately?
Whats that old Bowie song ...."we can be Heroes.........just for one day" 
? I now understand why you think you are untouchabe because you feel safe that you wont be part of any adverse fall out from this stupid strategy - good for you, such bravery. By the way, threatened anybody near the tool crib lately? Whats that old Bowie song ...."we can be Heroes.........just for one day"
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Just had a relative phone me to ask why the lunchtime Syd-Per flight was cancelled on Friday.I can only guess it was a B743.
The helpful ground staff informed the passengers that because the engineers were striking that day,that the flight was cancelled until that evening.And that the cancellation was not due to the aircraft being broken.
So thanks to the ground staff at Syd Dom involved in perpetuating the lies from management.
As everyone knows,the message would have passed to POCO from engineering that the aircraft was delayed for such and such a reason.So from that point there,who decided to turn the truth into a lie?
Was it POCO?Was it the SYD Dom MACS and his subordinates?Or was pressure applied from Senior management to turn the cancelled flight into industrial action?Was the flight really cancelled due to low passengers numbers?
Would Senior managers prefer the aircraft to fly whilst U/S?
It appears so........
The helpful ground staff informed the passengers that because the engineers were striking that day,that the flight was cancelled until that evening.And that the cancellation was not due to the aircraft being broken.
So thanks to the ground staff at Syd Dom involved in perpetuating the lies from management.
As everyone knows,the message would have passed to POCO from engineering that the aircraft was delayed for such and such a reason.So from that point there,who decided to turn the truth into a lie?
Was it POCO?Was it the SYD Dom MACS and his subordinates?Or was pressure applied from Senior management to turn the cancelled flight into industrial action?Was the flight really cancelled due to low passengers numbers?
Would Senior managers prefer the aircraft to fly whilst U/S?
It appears so........
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A friend in Adl tells me there are still quite a few LAMES doing relief work in Alice, and will soon be asking for people to help out in Darwin because guys are walking.
Way to stay on the same page Adelaide boys and girls, like i said earlier, weak as pis.!
Way to stay on the same page Adelaide boys and girls, like i said earlier, weak as pis.!
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What an airline. Way to go Management.
The morning 743 to Syd that broke in Perth, was fixed at about 1800. They could not send it to Syd because of SYD curfew. They then sent it to Mel Empty as a positioning flight as another 743 was due in Perth later.
Another 743 finally came to Perth. Although its STD “from Perth” was supposed to be about 1600 Saturday, it didn’t arrive until 0030 Sunday.
The plan was for a quick turn around.
Pax were all on (full load) by about 0200 and then…. Flight crew out of hours.
Apparently the ground staff were all too scared to tell the Pax. These were the Sat morning Pax still trying to get to Syd.
0230 Sunday- very angry pax file back into the terminal.
I think the A/C is still there.
Another 743 finally came to Perth. Although its STD “from Perth” was supposed to be about 1600 Saturday, it didn’t arrive until 0030 Sunday.
The plan was for a quick turn around.
Pax were all on (full load) by about 0200 and then…. Flight crew out of hours.
Apparently the ground staff were all too scared to tell the Pax. These were the Sat morning Pax still trying to get to Syd.
0230 Sunday- very angry pax file back into the terminal.
I think the A/C is still there.
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CPIOM if and when this EBA gets sorted out QF wont give a rats arse whether or not you went on strike or did or didn't support the PIA.
You will still be just a number to the powers that be, and you will still have to face the guys you stiffed for a payrise every working day.
The cold shoulder/silent treatment for the rest of your QF career will not doubt be a difficult thing.
You will still be just a number to the powers that be, and you will still have to face the guys you stiffed for a payrise every working day.
The cold shoulder/silent treatment for the rest of your QF career will not doubt be a difficult thing.
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I have consistantly said, lets bridge the gap a bit now, wait out GD and deal with the next management.
We have been taking your approach for the last ten years and look how far it has got us! We have been the ones prepared to give to help the company and the company laughs at us and spits in our face. When do they give? When do they bargain? When do they show anything but comtempt for us "(in their words)..over-paid...15-20% behind world's best practice..." LAME's?
If we were to act in the manner that you suggest, then the company will just think that they can continue to push us around without so much as a whimper coming from us. It's not going to happen.
Management have slowly but surely reduced this once great company to the dysfunctional mess that is currently is. This saddens and angers me. And then, when they walk away, they'll get their payout and wash their hands of the whole sorry mess and there'll be no recrimination, no-one brought to task, no-one to have to account for their destructive actions.
And you, Redhawk, have the gall to blame us for this! You say that we are acting inappropriately! You say that we should cop it on the chin to save our jobs! I don't mind differing views but please don't be offended if the vast majority of us disagree vehemently with your opinion!
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Causing disruptions
www.news.com.au
Qantas flight delays a trial for WYD pilgrims
TWO Qantas flights carrying scores of World Youth Day pilgrims from Perth to Sydney have been delayed by up to 16 hours. The flights were due to take off from Perth at midday and 4.15pm today, but the airline said the ongoing industrial standoff with its engineers had prompted a major rescheduling.
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"The industrial action by the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association (ALAEA) continues to affect some Qantas flights in terms of delays and cancellations,'' the spokesman said tonight.
"This has been the case in Perth today."
I thought we weren't having any stopwork meetings over this period as a show of good-faith to the WYD organisers ?
Apparently we still are !!!
SpannerTwister
Qantas flight delays a trial for WYD pilgrims
TWO Qantas flights carrying scores of World Youth Day pilgrims from Perth to Sydney have been delayed by up to 16 hours. The flights were due to take off from Perth at midday and 4.15pm today, but the airline said the ongoing industrial standoff with its engineers had prompted a major rescheduling.
...........
"The industrial action by the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association (ALAEA) continues to affect some Qantas flights in terms of delays and cancellations,'' the spokesman said tonight.
"This has been the case in Perth today."
I thought we weren't having any stopwork meetings over this period as a show of good-faith to the WYD organisers ?
Apparently we still are !!!
SpannerTwister
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Well Geoff if you keep letting Bullshetti keep telling lies like that for you,you will reap what you sow.................
Keep it up
Maintain the Rage
PS Dont forget we tell our friends and relatives,and they tell their friends and relatives that it aint industrial action thats stopping your planes
Its YOU!!!!
And guess what,its a numbers game,and we will win.Because we have more numbers to spread the truth than you have to spread the lies
Keep it up
Maintain the Rage
PS Dont forget we tell our friends and relatives,and they tell their friends and relatives that it aint industrial action thats stopping your planes
Its YOU!!!!
And guess what,its a numbers game,and we will win.Because we have more numbers to spread the truth than you have to spread the lies
Nice to see the trolls out and about again.
Please don't take their bait.
Don't label them as scabs - they aren't, they are management.
Do exactly what your Fed. Sec. tells you, no more, no less.
Please don't take their bait.
Don't label them as scabs - they aren't, they are management.
Do exactly what your Fed. Sec. tells you, no more, no less.