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Absolutely
Heard from the grapevine SIT Engineer was directed to extend his shift.
He said no
He was then asked if he had a legitimate reason why he wasn't extending today
He said "Absolutely"
.......and that's all
He said no I am not extending to participate in any form of unprotected industrial action, I have a legitimate reason why I'm not extending today and you are not entitled to know what the reason is.
They did ask about wether he would extend in the future and said all these things about the policy manual. He said he didn't know about those things and could not possibly make a decision about the legality of them at the moment.
Then he said he can't stay back today, he is not participating in any form of unprotected industrial action, he had a legitimate reason why he wasn't extending and they are not entitled to know what it is.
They let him go after that.
"To F*&# a$$ holes, it takes a Dick, a Dick with balls"
(Team America, 2004)
He said no
He was then asked if he had a legitimate reason why he wasn't extending today
He said "Absolutely"
.......and that's all
He said no I am not extending to participate in any form of unprotected industrial action, I have a legitimate reason why I'm not extending today and you are not entitled to know what the reason is.
They did ask about wether he would extend in the future and said all these things about the policy manual. He said he didn't know about those things and could not possibly make a decision about the legality of them at the moment.
Then he said he can't stay back today, he is not participating in any form of unprotected industrial action, he had a legitimate reason why he wasn't extending and they are not entitled to know what it is.
They let him go after that.
"To F*&# a$$ holes, it takes a Dick, a Dick with balls"
(Team America, 2004)
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Said by Redhawk
That type of thinking is just not on anymore and serves only the purposes of the politicians in the ACTU and ALAEA. not us. I just cant see us being better off in a confrontation like that.
So Redhawk states that he is management, please do not respond to anymore of his rot and he will go away!
That type of thinking is just not on anymore and serves only the purposes of the politicians in the ACTU and ALAEA. not us. I just cant see us being better off in a confrontation like that.
So Redhawk states that he is management, please do not respond to anymore of his rot and he will go away!
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If the syd Int ops now have excess labour how about offering redundancies??!! Crikey there'd be nobody left.
And we're still persisting with the crisis crew!
And the workload just keeps backing up.
I've been hearing rumours from planning that there WILL be a/c parked against the fence this week, due to lack of maintenance. I've heard this for the last 3 weeks now, but the way I heard it, this latest rumour sounded quite adamant. Anyone know more?
On another note, I heard a rumour the union has offered QF a sweet deal with the words "pay freeze" in it. No joke. But I'm guessing "the devil is in the detail".
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We can't always take the blame. Qf-31 Canx was done by yeild management weeks ago.
Perhaps the numbers are down because pax are going with a more on time service/carrier.
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Perhaps the numbers are down because pax are going with a more on time service/carrier
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Oh, i forgot, most of you are weak as pi.s. Met a bloke working terminal on $140,000 a year that said why would he leave for the little amount of work that he does. Looks to me that its the post 96 employees and the hangars that are under paid, funny that these are the people that also do most of the work and are deserving of a pay rise.
Not you old long time gerrys building empires not because you dont want to work, you just dont know how.
Not you old long time gerrys building empires not because you dont want to work, you just dont know how.
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Oh, i forgot, most of you are weak as pi.s. Met a bloke working terminal on $140,000 a year that said why would he leave for the little amount of work that he does. Looks to me that its the post 96 employees and the hangars that are under paid, funny that these are the people that also do most of the work and are deserving of a pay rise.
Not you old long time gerrys building empires not because you dont want to work, you just dont know how.
Not you old long time gerrys building empires not because you dont want to work, you just dont know how.
Please be careful. This is the kind of attitude that will lead to to "divide and conquer". This is not the time for that. To everyone else, ignore comments like that and stick together.
Amen.
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Don't worry Flugbegleiter, I think LOTW is just Trolling a bit.
I've never seen the LAME's as united as they are on this
!
Even if QE offers the association a "divisive" package, I doubt very much if the association would even bother putting it to the members, and if they WERE foolish enough to do so, I'm pretty darn sure that the members would reject it totally !!
Talking to the guys at work, it seems that everyone has a story to tell of their mates in a different section / base that are all united as one !
Seems to me that the company has foolishly managed to unite us, and managed to show us how that we can, with just a tiny bit of muscle-flexing, cause them so much pain
!!
I'll bet that was never one of their intended consequences
!!
SpannerTwister
I've never seen the LAME's as united as they are on this
!Even if QE offers the association a "divisive" package, I doubt very much if the association would even bother putting it to the members, and if they WERE foolish enough to do so, I'm pretty darn sure that the members would reject it totally
!!Talking to the guys at work, it seems that everyone has a story to tell of their mates in a different section / base that are all united as one !
Seems to me that the company has foolishly managed to unite us, and managed to show us how that we can, with just a tiny bit of muscle-flexing, cause them so much pain
!!I'll bet that was never one of their intended consequences
!!SpannerTwister
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I'm sure the LAME was trolling a bit too. We llike baiting people. LOTW, you're a sucker. You obviously took the bait.
Now I'm not taking your bait, just trying to educate you a little.
For starters, very few LAMEs are on $140K.
You imply the LAME is a pre-1996 LAME. So if he was an older LAME, good luck to him. He either holds licenses on just about every aircraft in the fleet and some that aren't or holds fewer licenses but has decades of experience in the industry. Every other industry I know of, such highly qualified or experienced employees are highly valued.
There's an old saying: "A good engineer does more with less". So it stands to reason that an older LAME probably doesnt work as hard as a younger LAME. Why? 1. he's already been working hard on shiftwork for decades and may be physically incapable of running around like a young bloke. 2. He doesnt need to because he's more experienced than a younger LAME.
I'm a post-1996 LAME and I value my older colleagues. Every one is an incredibly valuable resource - fonts of wisdom and experience. I definitely don't spite them their pay, just as I don't spite a check captain his $250,000 or so.
Yeah we must be to reject 3%, vote down the best the company would offer after 18 moths of negotiation, hang out for 2.5 years for a fair payrise, refuse overtime, refuse to rise to the provocations of a buggery campaign, keep the aircraft flying albeit delayed somewhat, work our rings out in all weather at all hours and still bring the company to it's knees. Real weak.
Now I'm not taking your bait, just trying to educate you a little.
For starters, very few LAMEs are on $140K.
You imply the LAME is a pre-1996 LAME. So if he was an older LAME, good luck to him. He either holds licenses on just about every aircraft in the fleet and some that aren't or holds fewer licenses but has decades of experience in the industry. Every other industry I know of, such highly qualified or experienced employees are highly valued.
There's an old saying: "A good engineer does more with less". So it stands to reason that an older LAME probably doesnt work as hard as a younger LAME. Why? 1. he's already been working hard on shiftwork for decades and may be physically incapable of running around like a young bloke. 2. He doesnt need to because he's more experienced than a younger LAME.
I'm a post-1996 LAME and I value my older colleagues. Every one is an incredibly valuable resource - fonts of wisdom and experience. I definitely don't spite them their pay, just as I don't spite a check captain his $250,000 or so.
Oh, i forgot, most of you are weak as pi.s.
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I'm pre 96. got most QF types plus bolt ons, I do a moderate amount of overtime and I just got my group cert................
Guess what ????............. I didn't get $ 140k. No where near !!!
Please sir, can I have more gruel ?
Guess what ????............. I didn't get $ 140k. No where near !!!
Please sir, can I have more gruel ?
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I'm pre 96. got most QF types plus bolt ons, I do a moderate amount of overtime and I just got my group cert................
Guess what ????............. I didn't get $ 140k. No where near !!!
Please sir, can I have more gruel ?
Guess what ????............. I didn't get $ 140k. No where near !!!
Please sir, can I have more gruel ?
You get gruel? I get sh*t sandwiches on stale rye and pineapple up my ar$e for dessert.
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$140,000
When comparing your annual wage to $140k, spare a thought for the guys at the bottom of the heap. A level 3 LAME would have to work a significant amount of overtime to earn $85k.
Given the money being earnt by other trades these days, $85k isn't a lot of money, especially when you have to work extended shifts through half the public holidays and half your weekends to get it.
Given the money being earnt by other trades these days, $85k isn't a lot of money, especially when you have to work extended shifts through half the public holidays and half your weekends to get it.
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