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From: Next to Bay 8
I can ASSURE you there are pilots in QLink that have PR status but DO NOT have an Australian passport. However, I don't know whether or not the company's entry requirements have changed since starting PNG ops.
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From: Australia
simulator program
Hi guys I have a sim and interview on the 19th of January and am wondering if anybody can recommend a program to use to practice for the sim session I have fsx and have downloaded a dash 8 plane but the PFD is so small i cant read it properly.
Thanks
Thanks
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From: Sydney
Biggles there are definitely South Africans in Qlink on 457 visas who do not hold Australian or NZ passports. I would query the difference between yourself and them. Especially seeing as they're on temp residency and you're on permanent. Doesn't sound right to me either.
The person in recruitment obviously hasn't thought of the above facts and if it's the person I'm thinking of, then it doesn't surprise me.
The person in recruitment obviously hasn't thought of the above facts and if it's the person I'm thinking of, then it doesn't surprise me.
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From: Australia
Junior
I wouldn't concern myself with the dash....what you want to do is use something like a King Air or something similar and practice approaches and instrument scanning....What they are wanting to see in the sim is an improvement in your scanning and performance. Most importantly treat it as though it's a bit of fun because it is...unlike the cyclic program when/if you get in!
I wouldn't concern myself with the dash....what you want to do is use something like a King Air or something similar and practice approaches and instrument scanning....What they are wanting to see in the sim is an improvement in your scanning and performance. Most importantly treat it as though it's a bit of fun because it is...unlike the cyclic program when/if you get in!

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From: Australia
Seems like the cadetship tab is gone agian for QL....have they temporarily put a hold on applications do you think? 
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From: In the thoughts of who loves me
Just a question from Europe.
I read above the last post that someone asked about passport, and an other one answered that there are non australian pilot with no permanent residency status or similar.
Well, my question is not this, but what are the minimum criteria/standards to apply? I do not see any requirements as I need to register on the website.
I read above the last post that someone asked about passport, and an other one answered that there are non australian pilot with no permanent residency status or similar.
Well, my question is not this, but what are the minimum criteria/standards to apply? I do not see any requirements as I need to register on the website.


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From: Not Syderknee
I do not see any requirements as I need to register on the website.
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From: Ringer Soak
Also for those that have sims coming up, i found that using the 737-800 cockpit on flight sim x was the most accurate representation of the Q400. Just fly the approaches on flight sim with the autopilot and do it over and over again, that way u will have good situational awareness and will memorise altitudes. You can click on the 2 primary instrument displays to make them bigger, then drag the corner of each to the sze u prefer.
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From: Oz
Just fly the approaches on flight sim with the autopilot and do it over and over again, that way u will have good situational awareness and will memorise altitudes. You can click on the 2 primary instrument displays to make them bigger, then drag the corner of each to the sze u prefer.
Sure, put some thought into the sim prior to your ride but don't overdo it. One small variable during the sim session can change the 'predicted 'outcome, seen it happen many times.
When your in the real world and its hitting the fan, God forbid you haven't practiced a hundred times on trusty computer it will show. Consider being called in on sim reserve with no preparation to support one of your fellow pilots with no notice and you cant pull it out of the bag on the day, you get a bad record real quick and screw the guy sitting in the other seat.
Nobody likes that.
I understand its all new to you, but really...
If your not ready to fly the sim, with no notice at any time, think again.
Sorry don't cut it.
t&b

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From: Australia
Come on guys and girls, show us what you have got, raw data. Either you got what it takes or you don't. This method will not cut the mustard in the long term.
With all due respect, I think that's a load of s**t.
There is an acute difference between being able to perform in an aircraft or sim that you are endorsed on and fly everyday, and being in a totally foreign environment and being able to do the same thing.
You think someone who has never flown a glass cockpit before and has their traditional analogue scan down pat will be able to adjust just like that?
It's surprisingly difficult to go from six pack to glass for the first time in something like a Q400 sim. Lets take the altimeter for example. Someone who's used to looking at a purely graphical instrument (big hand pointing slightly right = too high) is going to find it tough in a high workload sim ride trying to mentally process the speed tape as they simply are not familiar with it.
From personal experience, my advice would be to practice on something with a similar glass cockpit to the Q400. If you're not familiar with glass then definitely spend a bit of time on it. You can't prepare too much.
Sure, put some thought into the sim prior to your ride but don't overdo it. One small variable during the sim session can change the 'predicted 'outcome, seen it happen many times.
When your in the real world and its hitting the fan, God forbid you haven't practiced a hundred times on trusty computer it will show. Consider being called in on sim reserve with no preparation to support one of your fellow pilots with no notice and you cant pull it out of the bag on the day, you get a bad record real quick and screw the guy sitting in the other seat.
Nobody likes that.
I understand its all new to you, but really...
If your not ready to fly the sim, with no notice at any time, think again.
Sorry don't cut it.
When your in the real world and its hitting the fan, God forbid you haven't practiced a hundred times on trusty computer it will show. Consider being called in on sim reserve with no preparation to support one of your fellow pilots with no notice and you cant pull it out of the bag on the day, you get a bad record real quick and screw the guy sitting in the other seat.
Nobody likes that.
I understand its all new to you, but really...
If your not ready to fly the sim, with no notice at any time, think again.
Sorry don't cut it.
With all due respect, I think that's a load of s**t.
There is an acute difference between being able to perform in an aircraft or sim that you are endorsed on and fly everyday, and being in a totally foreign environment and being able to do the same thing.
You think someone who has never flown a glass cockpit before and has their traditional analogue scan down pat will be able to adjust just like that?
It's surprisingly difficult to go from six pack to glass for the first time in something like a Q400 sim. Lets take the altimeter for example. Someone who's used to looking at a purely graphical instrument (big hand pointing slightly right = too high) is going to find it tough in a high workload sim ride trying to mentally process the speed tape as they simply are not familiar with it.
From personal experience, my advice would be to practice on something with a similar glass cockpit to the Q400. If you're not familiar with glass then definitely spend a bit of time on it. You can't prepare too much.


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From: Not Syderknee
Is it true they set the sim up out of trim to make it harder?
) that would defeat the purpose of the sim exercise. You should be sent an information pack on the sim with power and attitude settings, if you can nail those settings in the sim it will be a whole lot easier. Just like in flight school:
Power + Attitude = Performance.
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From: Melbourne
Is it true they set the sim up out of trim to make it harder?

No they don't! It may come as a suprise but there are no hidden tricks in the SIM (for interviews). The Sim assessors want to see how well you fly basic procedures. All they want to see are basic IF skills and an improvement during the sim session.
Note: This doesn't mean you should deliberately poorly early in the sim session so that you can improve later on. You'll fly poorly enough at first anyway!

You can't prepare too much.

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From: Australia
Wanna bet? I've seen "more than a few" people fail cyclics because they were so overprepared that when the cyclic "events" didn't happen exactly the way they expected the wheels fell off, so to speak.
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From: Melbourne
Fonz, I agree. Maybe I should have elaborated.
I've spoken with a couple of people who are preparing for their sim rides for their Qlink interview.
Some of these guys ask me questions like:
"What if they fail an engine?", "If I crash the sim on landing will I fail the assessment?"
This is after they've got their information pack! It is possible to overprepare.
DIVOSH!
I've spoken with a couple of people who are preparing for their sim rides for their Qlink interview.
Some of these guys ask me questions like:
"What if they fail an engine?", "If I crash the sim on landing will I fail the assessment?"
This is after they've got their information pack! It is possible to overprepare.
DIVOSH!

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From: Living next door to Alan
Listen to rmcdonal, Fonz & Di Vosh.
I did the sim rides for nearly 8 years, and if there's any advice you should listen to, it's memorise the thrust and attitude table you would have been sent by recruiting. While you'll be permitted to refer to the table during the SIMEX, to do so will just distract you from the primary task of flying the box. Memorise the data.
They're not trying to trip you up in the SIMEX. They are looking for sound basic I.F. and good manipulative skills, with a demonstration of steady improvement as the SIMEX progresses. Yes, you'll make errors. Everybody does. It's not a big deal. It's how you recognise and correct those errors that counts. If necessary (and time permitting) the examiner may give you tuition if a particular part of the sequence isn't going as well as expected. This in itself is not a fail, but an assessment of how you respond to training input. Think positive!
If you don't have glass (LCD?) experience, it would be advantageous to familiarise yourself with the Q400 layout as Fonz wrote. You should be thoroughly briefed beforehand.
Remember the 6 P's. Prior Preparation Prevents P!ss-Poor Performance.
Good luck
I did the sim rides for nearly 8 years, and if there's any advice you should listen to, it's memorise the thrust and attitude table you would have been sent by recruiting. While you'll be permitted to refer to the table during the SIMEX, to do so will just distract you from the primary task of flying the box. Memorise the data.
They're not trying to trip you up in the SIMEX. They are looking for sound basic I.F. and good manipulative skills, with a demonstration of steady improvement as the SIMEX progresses. Yes, you'll make errors. Everybody does. It's not a big deal. It's how you recognise and correct those errors that counts. If necessary (and time permitting) the examiner may give you tuition if a particular part of the sequence isn't going as well as expected. This in itself is not a fail, but an assessment of how you respond to training input. Think positive!
If you don't have glass (LCD?) experience, it would be advantageous to familiarise yourself with the Q400 layout as Fonz wrote. You should be thoroughly briefed beforehand.
Remember the 6 P's. Prior Preparation Prevents P!ss-Poor Performance.

Good luck
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From: aust
Traineeship
For the traineeship, how many people who have completed the Oxford 6 week, $18000, training course, have been offered a position with Qlink?
My worry is that I am going to quit my job, pay $20000 odd for training, not get paid for 6 weeks, and not get offered anything at the end of it.
How much of a sure thing is it?
My worry is that I am going to quit my job, pay $20000 odd for training, not get paid for 6 weeks, and not get offered anything at the end of it.
How much of a sure thing is it?




Anyway, thanks a lot!