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Old 7th Sep 2011, 05:56
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Oh yes.

Rosters also depend on fleet/base. Right now the Sydney guys are getting flogged. In Melbourne on the classic fleet we've got it pretty cruisy. In Cairns as an FO on the classic you're bored to death!

New Eastern EBA is now in line with the Sunstate EBA of: 8 or 9 days off per roster. Typical shift is a 5-and-3 overnight. There are some variations of this (e.g. Sydney also has day shifts and Mildura only has overnight shifts on the weekends).

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Old 7th Sep 2011, 05:57
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Be aware that you will not have the use of staff travel for six months.
I took my first command in Cairns after having been an F/O for six years and commuted for 18 months.The novelty wears off rapidly, getting home about three times a month with growing children. There were a couple of us doing this and we were all worse off financially with the commute and accommodation, although the benefit of command hours was obviously the reason and a compensation.
Mildura could be a good option for you although I am Brisbane based and not too sure of the vacancies and movement. Good luck with following your dream, or addiction as your wife may call it.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 23:41
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minimum requirements

The minimum requirements are flexible on a supply and demand basis. One lucky chap a few years ago had his twin endorsement provided by the company on a Kingair. Right place, right time and a good attitude all help.
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 03:13
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Asking on behalf of a mate who just lurks. How long is it from QantasLink telling you your in hold pool with a expected course date until employment offer?
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 03:42
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for last post ^^^

How long is a piece of string is your answer. I have seen and heard of everything from 1-2 months out to 6+ months. Seems it's based on what your experience is and what you have to offer, and of course their current vacancy situation
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Old 10th Sep 2011, 23:05
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Geez they had different tastes in music in the 70's.

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Old 13th Sep 2011, 04:24
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Criminal History and Qantas ASIC

PPL at the moment with 372 hours but not current. Have enough money and time to progress to ATPL and was thinking about QL int eh next 3 years or so when I can generate the mins, maybe 1200 hours. However, I have a black mark against my name from 20 years ago (summary/minor offence, no drugs or dishonesty or violence), plus a drink driving over 10 years ago. Was a bit worried about the criminal history check.

What do Qantas check with the criminal history? Is it just the standard employment check issued by the Police?

Is any kind of criminal history curtains to an application with Q?
What is a "Qantas ASIC" and what documentation do they require???
otherwise it looks like I'll be stuck in GA...

"If successful in progressing to Stage 4, the candidate will be required to submit documentation for the Qantas ASIC ... "

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Old 13th Sep 2011, 07:17
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I'd imagine a Qantas ASIC is a normal ASIC with Qantas printed on the front. The ASIC is a government programme, surely Qantas can't just make up their own requirement for it.

Convictions become spent after a period of time, 10 years I think, after which time the cannot be seen on a criminal history check.

These guys know a bit more about it. Australian Forums
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Old 13th Sep 2011, 12:19
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Continuing on the correct information that Ozzie Mozzie said,

Some convictions (serious ones such as murder, rape etc) will never be regarded as a "spent" conviction.

The time limit on spent convictions varies depending on what the offence was and amount of time in jail (if any jail time). The information is readily available as people need to know what they have to disclose to prospective employers. Look at the ASIC website, not sure what gov't dept. and all the info you need will be there.

In regards to the DUI, probably no major problem. Im not sure about these days, but 10years ago a drink driving conviction was in fact a conviction on your traffic record, not your criminal record. From memory, I think most states wipe people traffic records after 5 years or so. The chances are that the drink driving record probably doesnt exist, except for court records....I dont think they are ever wiped.

But make sure you check all this info out for yourself....dont trust me!!!!

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Old 13th Sep 2011, 13:11
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Hopefully that will be all water under the bridge by then. Good luck.
As one of our pilots (Arch van D) used to say: "Let's go and commit aviation."
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Old 20th Sep 2011, 11:20
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Time to command

Would anyone currently with QLink care to guestimate how long it might take a new FO with over 2000 hrs, needing only the 100hrs night for ATPL to get a command upgrade? (assuming good performance)

Thanks in advance.
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Old 20th Sep 2011, 21:31
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The company minimum is twelve months and 700 hours on type, so it is possible to get a command within 18 months. Some have done it in this time. It depends on vacancies, obviously, and if those above you in the seniority list have the minimum requirements themselves. Most F/Os realize there is a lot to learn when changing seats and are quite glad of a little longer in the RH side. Good luck with your application.
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Old 21st Sep 2011, 04:57
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Thanks Harrowing.

Also if anyone who has recently done the traineeship could answer the following question it would be appreciated. I already emailed Qlink but they sent me back a dumb response that didn't answer the question...

From the website:
"The cost of training is $18,000 ex GST. QantasLink will pay $16,000 toward the upfront costs of the Trainee Program. Trainee Program participants will make an upfront contribution of $2,000"

Who pays the $1800 of GST upfront?

Do they mean Qlink pays $17600 and the Trainee pays $2200 upfront or does Qlink pay $16000 and the Trainee pays $3600?
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Old 21st Sep 2011, 05:49
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Good question Geeham - my guess would be that the respective stated figures will have GST added to them - but the other method would probably be in their best interests so who knows. So you'll probably be up for $2200 if you get the nod (and you accept ). Of course I could be completely wrong
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Old 21st Sep 2011, 06:08
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Hey guys has anybody done the interview lately if so I have a few questions to sak.
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Old 21st Sep 2011, 07:14
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Some courses are GST free, so I wouldn't be surprised if it is GST free.

Depending on in your income, you may be better off to pay the whole amount up front and then claim it as a tax deduction.
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Old 21st Sep 2011, 07:55
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That wouldn't work unless you were already employed at QLink and did the traineeship to upskill.
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Old 21st Sep 2011, 08:29
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The current deal is the Trainee pays some upfront ($2000-$3800?) and QLink pays some up front and everything that Qlink paid is taken from Trainee's net salary in years 2,3 and 4 of employment. So the Trainee pays the lot ,just not all at once.
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Old 23rd Sep 2011, 23:57
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Yep it's $2200 paid by the trainee and $17600 by QLink, and actually it's bonded for 4 years (concurrently with the endorsement bond) so provided you stay there for that long then nothing needs to be repaid of the QLink contribution.
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Old 24th Sep 2011, 04:20
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It's not bonded. The website says they take it out of your already miserly salary in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th year of employment. Only the type rating is bonded so if you stay for 3 years you don't pay anything for that.

Makes me wonder if your comment about the $2200 upfront was also wrong..?

Are you one of the trainees?

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