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Interview or testing
Gday guys,
Congrats to those of you that are progressing through the selection process.
Did you guys do the wombat testing before the interview, or did you interview first?
What was the wombat testing like? Was there any study that you could do before the wombat test?
Keep us up to date with how you are all progressing.
Fingers crossed guys and gals.
Cheers
Goaroundagain
Congrats to those of you that are progressing through the selection process.
Did you guys do the wombat testing before the interview, or did you interview first?
What was the wombat testing like? Was there any study that you could do before the wombat test?
Keep us up to date with how you are all progressing.
Fingers crossed guys and gals.
Cheers
Goaroundagain
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Sadly Krusty
You need to chew on a few more happy pills.
It appears that your rants are simply on the verge of willing the death of Rex.
Whatever, they are trying their best in a difficult climate.
I have no sympathy for the owners as they have a FARKED UP attitude towards the work force there. Fark'em
But mate ..... currently they have no hope of achieving their ambitions of over 50 SF340s .... but what the fark.
But mate, relax and chill.... aviation is forever changing.
Remember ... Aviate Navigate Communicate ... Check wheels down ...
You need to chew on a few more happy pills.
It appears that your rants are simply on the verge of willing the death of Rex.
Whatever, they are trying their best in a difficult climate.
I have no sympathy for the owners as they have a FARKED UP attitude towards the work force there. Fark'em
But mate ..... currently they have no hope of achieving their ambitions of over 50 SF340s .... but what the fark.
But mate, relax and chill.... aviation is forever changing.
Remember ... Aviate Navigate Communicate ... Check wheels down ...
ok update, I just got a call back today from Kim at HR.
As soon as I told her I had PPL / NVFR / CSU & Retract / theory up to ATPL I was told I was over qualified.
She confirmed they ran approx 3 "trial" positions with the current batch of new cadets who were in a similar position to myself - they have been allowed to continue their flying training from the level they were already at, however they are going through the theory side from the beginning.
There is also apparently discussions within management at the moment to start a mid level entry cadetship which will more suit the 1000 or so applications they received that are similar to mine.
As soon as I told her I had PPL / NVFR / CSU & Retract / theory up to ATPL I was told I was over qualified.
She confirmed they ran approx 3 "trial" positions with the current batch of new cadets who were in a similar position to myself - they have been allowed to continue their flying training from the level they were already at, however they are going through the theory side from the beginning.
There is also apparently discussions within management at the moment to start a mid level entry cadetship which will more suit the 1000 or so applications they received that are similar to mine.
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The thousand similar to King RB
I was also told that a similar scheme was starting for newbie CPL's. I asked if they could call me when it was up and running. I got told it was my job to check the website and then apply when the scheme was posted there.
You would think that they would be a little more keen than just hoping that I will continue to be interested and apply when it starts.
A grade 3 instructor from a school in SE Melbourne is doing a sim check with Q mainline in the next few weeks with less than 1000 TT and no multi! As was mentioned earlier in the REX threads. Why would I hang around in the right seat for six years when I can be applying at Q after 18 months in GA?
I'm going up north!!!
You would think that they would be a little more keen than just hoping that I will continue to be interested and apply when it starts.
A grade 3 instructor from a school in SE Melbourne is doing a sim check with Q mainline in the next few weeks with less than 1000 TT and no multi! As was mentioned earlier in the REX threads. Why would I hang around in the right seat for six years when I can be applying at Q after 18 months in GA?
I'm going up north!!!
radaz.
If you ever bothered to read my posts you would see that I am actually pro-REX!
Your post #145 gives an unequivocal endorsement to virtually everything that REX management have done with regard to this scheme. That's fine, that's your opinion. What confuses me however is your acknowledgement of managements "Farked up" attitude, your exclamation of "Fark'em, and then a prediction that they have no hope of achieving their ambitions of over 50 SF340's.
Initially I had you pegged as a mangement stooge, but now I'm not so sure. The planned 50 aircraft has achieved a certain momentum. The chances of crewing all of them is of a very small probabilty, but the leasing and transport arrangements have long been finalised. If you were part of REX, then you would know that. Just how many of these airframes will be parked, as a result of REX management's ineptitude in this crisis will become evident over the next 12-18 months.
As far as my "rants" are concerned, well, we'll let history be the judge.
If you ever bothered to read my posts you would see that I am actually pro-REX!
Your post #145 gives an unequivocal endorsement to virtually everything that REX management have done with regard to this scheme. That's fine, that's your opinion. What confuses me however is your acknowledgement of managements "Farked up" attitude, your exclamation of "Fark'em, and then a prediction that they have no hope of achieving their ambitions of over 50 SF340's.
Initially I had you pegged as a mangement stooge, but now I'm not so sure. The planned 50 aircraft has achieved a certain momentum. The chances of crewing all of them is of a very small probabilty, but the leasing and transport arrangements have long been finalised. If you were part of REX, then you would know that. Just how many of these airframes will be parked, as a result of REX management's ineptitude in this crisis will become evident over the next 12-18 months.
As far as my "rants" are concerned, well, we'll let history be the judge.
Here we are now in March.
The Cadets still haven't commenced their flight training. Now let me see, If they were to commence tomorrow, then to meet the timeline of 8 months, they would have to complete their training by July!
So ab-initio to CPL Multi IFR in 4 months! JD you are a goddamn magician! Of course this is impossible. Some very experienced flight intructors I know have said that 12 months, with everything going for it is seriously tight.
My point is, has REX Management been less than honest with these people so far? What, or what haven't they told them? Remember these Cadets (or their parents) have parted with some serious cash. If I were in their shoes I would be asking some equally serious questions regarding a career that appears to be going nowhere.
radaz.
Feel free to comment if you have the nerve.
The Cadets still haven't commenced their flight training. Now let me see, If they were to commence tomorrow, then to meet the timeline of 8 months, they would have to complete their training by July!
So ab-initio to CPL Multi IFR in 4 months! JD you are a goddamn magician! Of course this is impossible. Some very experienced flight intructors I know have said that 12 months, with everything going for it is seriously tight.
My point is, has REX Management been less than honest with these people so far? What, or what haven't they told them? Remember these Cadets (or their parents) have parted with some serious cash. If I were in their shoes I would be asking some equally serious questions regarding a career that appears to be going nowhere.
radaz.
Feel free to comment if you have the nerve.
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Krusty 34, I agree it is sad news.
Like you said, there is a big financial burden on the cadets (or their parents). Let's hope for both the cadet's and Rex's sake, they work some miricles and start making some progress atleast.
Sach
Krusty 34, I agree it is sad news.
Like you said, there is a big financial burden on the cadets (or their parents). Let's hope for both the cadet's and Rex's sake, they work some miricles and start making some progress atleast.
Sach
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Sachi,
Are you happy with your progress in the REX cadetship? What are you currently learning in ground school?
For the sake of all their cadets I hope they get their arses into gear quick smart.
ABX
Are you happy with your progress in the REX cadetship? What are you currently learning in ground school?
For the sake of all their cadets I hope they get their arses into gear quick smart.
ABX
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After instructing cadets myself many moons ago, there is no chance these guys will ready until the end of 09 at the earliest.
Who will CH & JD blame this one on? JQ/QF/VB? have they been stealing all there instructors from that second rate outfit in MNG?
Share price is falling quicker than a brides panties on her wedding night, looks like it could be lights out in the very near future!!
Who will CH & JD blame this one on? JQ/QF/VB? have they been stealing all there instructors from that second rate outfit in MNG?
Share price is falling quicker than a brides panties on her wedding night, looks like it could be lights out in the very near future!!
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Sorry mate, I'm not a REX cadet. I'm not even in Australia. But yes, let's hope that it all gets going soon. I can understand a few technical setbacks and delays. It is afterall a new Cadet scheme, but this seems to be more than just setbacks and delays.
Sach
Sorry mate, I'm not a REX cadet. I'm not even in Australia. But yes, let's hope that it all gets going soon. I can understand a few technical setbacks and delays. It is afterall a new Cadet scheme, but this seems to be more than just setbacks and delays.
Sach
NO!
They pay for the privilage of being there. Included in the $80K. What happens to their accomodation after the 8 months? (the length of the training as stated by REX management).
I guess we'll find out in 4 months time.
They pay for the privilage of being there. Included in the $80K. What happens to their accomodation after the 8 months? (the length of the training as stated by REX management).
I guess we'll find out in 4 months time.
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Relocation was a big thing for me and the cadetship.
To cut a long story short, my question to Chris Hine and the HR Lady was "how does relocating work and where am I likely to end up after the 8 + 3months".
Chris turned to the HR lady who then explained...
All in all, their location preferences works on a hiercy and tenure basis. So, if you are a CPT for 2 years, you will get preference much higher than a CPT who has been there for 1 year. If you are a FO for 5 years, you would get preference over an FO that has been active for anything less, but not preference over a CPT who has been active for 2 years. Chris actually went on to use himself as an example and said given his position, he could go wherever he damn well pleased.
The general concenous for cadets was:
1) Forget Melbourne.
2) Forget big-little country towns.
3) Prepare to Move to SYD after 3 months in Wagga.
4) You could beg and plead for ADL but doubt it wouldnt happen.
5) No forecast for BNE but doubt it would even be an option.
Now for someone like me, it would completely suck as I have lots of personal debt etc etc. For 19yo Billy who has no debt etc etc, can live in Wagga for 3 months on $30k p/a and then around $2900p/m net once checked to line can live in SYD.
All in all, after the 8 months and you are shipped away to Wagga, you are on your own. No relocation benefits etc etc. For the kids doing the training now, after the training it is going to be a big big shock as they will be pretty much told to go home, pack more clothes and move on up to Wagga.
To cut a long story short, my question to Chris Hine and the HR Lady was "how does relocating work and where am I likely to end up after the 8 + 3months".
Chris turned to the HR lady who then explained...
All in all, their location preferences works on a hiercy and tenure basis. So, if you are a CPT for 2 years, you will get preference much higher than a CPT who has been there for 1 year. If you are a FO for 5 years, you would get preference over an FO that has been active for anything less, but not preference over a CPT who has been active for 2 years. Chris actually went on to use himself as an example and said given his position, he could go wherever he damn well pleased.
The general concenous for cadets was:
1) Forget Melbourne.
2) Forget big-little country towns.
3) Prepare to Move to SYD after 3 months in Wagga.
4) You could beg and plead for ADL but doubt it wouldnt happen.
5) No forecast for BNE but doubt it would even be an option.
Now for someone like me, it would completely suck as I have lots of personal debt etc etc. For 19yo Billy who has no debt etc etc, can live in Wagga for 3 months on $30k p/a and then around $2900p/m net once checked to line can live in SYD.
All in all, after the 8 months and you are shipped away to Wagga, you are on your own. No relocation benefits etc etc. For the kids doing the training now, after the training it is going to be a big big shock as they will be pretty much told to go home, pack more clothes and move on up to Wagga.
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Maybe the managers do not believe they have a pilot shortage. If they did they would make more effort to get more pilots. They do not seem to be trying very hard.
It seems they are talking about a pilot shortage, but not doing much about it. I wonder why.
Could it be that our airlines are trying to get some government subsidies or something????
It seems they are talking about a pilot shortage, but not doing much about it. I wonder why.
Could it be that our airlines are trying to get some government subsidies or something????
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Thanks wesky! I'm starting to think, I'm not sure if I want to this anymore! There always going to be sacrifices being pilot but it just starting to stretch to far!
Airlines are doing well and I think from this point forward there is always going to be jobs available but there is just going to be no gold at the end of the rainbow like there was in the early days. They just ain't want to pay!
Airlines are doing well and I think from this point forward there is always going to be jobs available but there is just going to be no gold at the end of the rainbow like there was in the early days. They just ain't want to pay!
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No worries Mav'
The message I have given for a while now is that if you can't afford to do the training self funded, then this is a really good opportunity - but with many sacrifices. The mentioned "sacrifices" may be significant to some, and not others.
Ultimately, if you can afford the $65-90k to get yourself flying (MECIR, some atpl subjects etc etc), you are much better off and will progress substantially quicker than a Rex cadet.
If anyone has a spare $70k sitting around, get cracking. Work hard, work full time and you will have the MECIR sorted within 8-10 months and up north within 12. By the sounds of it, the Rex Cadets will still be trying score time in the PA44 after their original release date in July.
The message I have given for a while now is that if you can't afford to do the training self funded, then this is a really good opportunity - but with many sacrifices. The mentioned "sacrifices" may be significant to some, and not others.
Ultimately, if you can afford the $65-90k to get yourself flying (MECIR, some atpl subjects etc etc), you are much better off and will progress substantially quicker than a Rex cadet.
If anyone has a spare $70k sitting around, get cracking. Work hard, work full time and you will have the MECIR sorted within 8-10 months and up north within 12. By the sounds of it, the Rex Cadets will still be trying score time in the PA44 after their original release date in July.
The message I have given for a while now is that if you can't afford to do the training self funded, then this is a really good opportunity - but with many sacrifices. The mentioned "sacrifices" may be significant to some, and not others.
Ultimately, if you can afford the $65-90k to get yourself flying (MECIR, some atpl subjects etc etc), you are much better off and will progress substantially quicker than a Rex cadet.
If anyone has a spare $70k sitting around, get cracking. Work hard, work full time and you will have the MECIR sorted within 8-10 months and up north within 12. By the sounds of it, the Rex Cadets will still be trying score time in the PA44 after their original release date in July.
Ultimately, if you can afford the $65-90k to get yourself flying (MECIR, some atpl subjects etc etc), you are much better off and will progress substantially quicker than a Rex cadet.
If anyone has a spare $70k sitting around, get cracking. Work hard, work full time and you will have the MECIR sorted within 8-10 months and up north within 12. By the sounds of it, the Rex Cadets will still be trying score time in the PA44 after their original release date in July.
It is kind of depressing / annoying however about REX. I had high hopes for this program when I first saw the advertisement & when I first applied.
Its difficult for me to really understand what their strategy is at the moment.
I would have thought if they were truly desperate for pilots like they make out to be, they would be looking ALOT more seriously at accepting pilots who already have some hours under their belt, have already shown aptitude, desire and passion for the game & are looking for a decent first job...... all in exchange for showing a commitment to their company for a number of years.
I would have been willing to do that.
I may be over simplifying this, but can someone tell me why if so many planes are sitting around / routes being cut etc and all the claims are true, they are not offering opportunities to the existing pilots in order to rectify the situation as quickly as possible?
The reality of this program so far has shown to be completely different to what I envisaged.
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Here we are now in March.
career that appears to be going nowhere.
radaz.
Feel free to comment if you have the nerve.
Hiya Krafty 43
Observe the old aviation saying.
'get the fark out before it catches fire'.....'with a smile on your face'.
REX is dead.
I was never quite sure why you have wanted your employer to fail (while swearing blue that you didn't).
PM me if you want a jet job. We can use you in BGA.
career that appears to be going nowhere.
radaz.
Feel free to comment if you have the nerve.
Hiya Krafty 43
Observe the old aviation saying.
'get the fark out before it catches fire'.....'with a smile on your face'.
REX is dead.
I was never quite sure why you have wanted your employer to fail (while swearing blue that you didn't).
PM me if you want a jet job. We can use you in BGA.