Merged: The REX Cadet Scheme

[ABX]

I'm just waiting for the click.

[pilotdude09]

I used to think the REX program was a good idea, but i have heard so much bad info bout it, wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole now!!!

Besides, i got a better paying job double plus a few k more than a rex captain will ever earn, so can put myself through the training which seems a bit better than going through what seems to be the biggest joke of an aviation course.

Many other courses seem to have structre and people to actually train you!

REX could have suprised everyone with this but they didnt and its a shame they didnt but they seriously need to look at their pay.

[Vpilot53]

Thanks mate. If REX are in need for pilots that bad why they never did a cadetship for guys that have just recived there commercial and then another course with guys that had just recived there ppl. And worked on them form there i will never know. Getting guys with CPL and just doing a CIR with twin Endor and a saab rating and getting these guys flying in 4-6 months insted of guys that will take 10-11 months while the airline struggles and continues to cancel flight because aof a pilot shortage. Just another example of the aviation industry in Australia .

[The Original Jetpipe]

Rex Cadetship!

Hi All,

The more I look into this "cadetship" the more suspect I get!! A big white elephant! or tax dodge?? The flight school does not even I have a website??? and I have been informed that they have NO aircraft to fly??? I know of people inside the company that have turned down the cadetship due to not having question answered correctly?

Just be very careful if you go down this route!

TOJP.

P.s Why have none of the cadets posted any replies? Is "ppruneing" NOT allowed under there SOPs! I donot belive they are to busy?

[rivetsinformation]

Has anyone noticed that not one of the cadets on the Rex media release page is smiling? Bad start to the day?

[fogap]

My last post...good luck to all!

How long between the submission of your Scool results and the call to interview?

Hi Gearupandorrf,

Call on Wednesday, asked for interview on Thursday.

Don't stress, they are doing 3 weeks of interviewing starting this week. Melbourne was the first stop, thus why I was asked so quickly. If they want to interview you, they will only give you a day or two preparation!

i have also been doing a little flying

Hi Vpilot53,

It doesn't hurt to have some experience under your belt. My impression was it should do in your favour.

why they never did a cadetship for guys that have just recived there commercial

They want you to at least do the theory from the start, so that you are taught it at Rex standards. You pickup your flying experience where you left off.

I used to think the REX program was a good idea

Hi pilotdude09,

I was in the same boat as you, up until after the interview. Believe me, almost all of the crap being circulated on these forums is absolute speculation and untrue.

The flight school does not even I have a website

Hi The Original Jetpipe,

It is a brand new flying school, just developed for the Cadets. It is a in house training facilty only for the Cadets (trying to avoid as much competition learning about the course).

I have been informed that they have NO aircraft to fly

Sorry to disappoint you mate, but I can confirm they arrived this Monday 21st. I'm told by the Chief Pilot they should be operational and passed airworthy within 2-3 weeks.

Yes I agree, long overdue!

Working for ****e money does you and no one else in the industry any good

Hi flyingtake2,

Perhaps you should read my previous posts, as you may find I agree with you. We (pilots) are highly educated and quality individuals and I certainly think we should be paid accordingly.

What I don't agree with is bringing in imports to do my job for half the wage. Yes I may be accepting a wage at a lower rate, however at least I can assure myself that I've been taught at a high standard and I'm not compromising on safety.

You know, I don't like talking to ignorant, arrogant, jealous and rude low life individuals. But I’m sure you’re not one of those – I mean, we’re pilots. We’re smart, kind, caring and passionate, right? Perhaps it is you that needs to 'wake up to yourself'. Let me ask, have you read the contract? Do you really know how much we are paid? I think not. Get some solid information before making claims that you cannot support.

Let me tell you, there is no difference between a direct entrant Rex F/O and a cadet at the end of the training. Hmmm, I'm not going to tell you the twist because that would be a “nice” thing to do (and I’m obviously not nice) - but I will say, even though there is a loan to repay...we are still renumerated at least 40K a year after the 32 weeks.

No, I'm not saying that's a good pay. Yes, it is very poor, but we are paid the same as a direct entrant F/O and we are being taught the training at a subsidised rate. Surely there is a positive in that?

I don’t recall ever publishing a biography – let me guess, you made another unjust assumption! Yeh, I could just imagine you in the air....who are you to claim that I have parents who are financially stable, or even are alive to support me? Shame on you my friend. If you knew who I was, I’m sure you would be surprised at the accomplishments I have achieved to date.

Don’t worry, I’m not the one that will or has “stuffed up the industry”. I’m trying to fix it the best way I can and I know....I think it is the current generation of senior pilots and the airlines who have left us no other choice? Perhaps us youngins are just picking up the mess? (No, I’m not being disrespectful. I applaud the past generation of pilots, I think you truly have done a fantastic job and have gone though much tougher times. Well done!)

Whoops! I just made a assumption...damn, now that’s not good piloting, is it? I do apologise, correct me if you are not a pilot more advanced than me.

Then again, we are all entitled to free speech and our opinion. flyingtake2, I don’t dislike you as I think you were stating your point. I take your advice onboard, ta! But I have already considered your suggestions and yes, surprisingly I agree! (but I ain’t no idiot)

Good luck to you pal...enjoy the rest of your career.


Good luck to everyone applying for the Rex Cadetship Scheme – and for whatever else you choose to do in your aviation career!

I'm outta this mess - these forums do nothing but create uncertainly. Go for your goal - do want YOU want and what you think is best for you. Don't listen to others!

All the best,
FOGAP

[Vpilot53]

Maybe thats why i have already done my commercial theory subjucets and passed them all

[G Cantstandya]

Thanks FOGAP, it will be good to see the back of an ignorant little sperm like yourself...

believe me, you will be singing like a bitch in 12 months when either REX goes tits up, or you are only still half way through your training because they have no one to train you.....

good luck....maybe a job in India is more suited to you!!

[looit]

just thinking

Ok, as far as i know all the money is in the big international airliners like qantas etc. I agree the rex pay is pathetic but as far as I understand working for rex through this program will create easy flight hours, something that is essential to joining the big airliners. The six years cant be a problem since as soon as you have enough flight hours to join the bigger companies you join and pay off the loan.

Im not too sure as far as payrates go for F/O on the big jets, but it shouldnt pose a problem for paying off the loan... its not as if rex is locking the students into some kind of unreleaseable contract.

im open to any other suggestions, is finding a job as an agricultural pilot perhaps a better way of building up hours?

Looit

[thatpilot]

As a New Zealander looking at the REX scheme i find it interesting to see the number of people flaming it before it has even had a chance to prove itself.

My current plan is to earn the $40k (and probably a bit more) in the next year or so before I apply, that way if all is successful, and I end up as a saab F/O in two or three years time and get offered a better job then it won't be a problem for me to do so.

Still at the early stages of investigating my options at the moment so lots to be discovered.

[AirBumps]

Hey guys

I know there are a couple of REX threads but I thought I'd bump this one. I'm interested to know if anybody has any feedback on how the cadetship is going? I understand they finally got their Warriors delivered and I see from the AFAP website and the Australian that they are still looking for instructors.

Does anybody know anybody there? Whats the place like? Have any people left?

Comments?

AB

[Ultralights]

thats one little thing i noticed, lots of advertising for instructors, you cant train new pilots without instructors. and there seams to be a lot of competition for good instructors as well. if you dont get into REX, there seams to be a good career emerging in the instructor scene.

[KRUSTY 34]

Word is that the first batch have just completed B.A.K!

No AOC as yet so they have not even commenced flight training. REX has said publicly that the first course of cadets will be ready for SAAB training by July '08!!! The reality is that they will be lucky to commence their airline induction by July 09!

I really feel for these boys and girls. I had grave reservations at the beginning that they may be sold a "Pup". I hope the architechs of this "brilliant" scheme are sleeping well at night.

[crank1000]

Sorry, too many hours

I applied for the cadetship the day it went on the Rex website. I got a call from them a few weeks ago asking if I wanted an interview. I told them that I was just waiting to do my CPL flight test which prompted the response of , "Sorry ab initio only". Thought they would be interested in someone who only had to do the MECIR. Oh well.

I have nothing against REX either but if they called a little earlier I may have not been so keen to finish my flying over christmas. With the job market the way it is I don't think I will have any trouble landing my first job so think REX gets the rough end of the stick in this one.

Anyone else get the same reponse?

[kingRB]

I had a missed call on my mobile from one of their HR people a couple of weeks ago - I promptly called back, and left a message on a womans voicemail about who I was etc and to please call me back.

I have not heard back from them again

If they are only interested in "ab initio" then I guess this avenue of approach for getting into the game is finished for me. I'll be finishing off my CPL and multi / CIR myself I think.

[nomorecatering]

They have approached numerous organisations about the AOC but after seeing their syllabus no one wants a bar of it.

Does anyone consider it reasonable to do a ME Intial and a ME Command instrument rating, all up in 17 hrs dual. Thats right, thats the total allocation of ME dual.

Last thing I heared is that is that Line fo's will be seconded to work for the school. But the sad fact is that no one wants to work at Mangalore. However on the positive side, their grade 3's are making 2K more than our grade 1's.

[KRUSTY 34]

Their Grade 3's also have a seniority number with REX.

Hope there is an airline left to offer them a position when their time at Mangalore is up.

[radaz]

Got AOC
Got CFI
Got students
Got brand new flying machines.
Could do with a few more instructors, but hey doesn't everyone else.
KW is running the show, so don't bet that it wont get done.
Not overly optimistic that a few cadets wont be done by mid year either.
A big for Rex Management.

[KRUSTY 34]

radaz.

What the hell have you been smoking?

[marty1468]

Sorry, too many hours
I applied for the cadetship the day it went on the Rex website. I got a call from them a few weeks ago asking if I wanted an interview. I told them that I was just waiting to do my CPL flight test which prompted the response of , "Sorry ab initio only". Thought they would be interested in someone who only had to do the MECIR. Oh well.

I have nothing against REX either but if they called a little earlier I may have not been so keen to finish my flying over christmas. With the job market the way it is I don't think I will have any trouble landing my first job so think REX gets the rough end of the stick in this one.

Anyone else get the same reponse?

I got a similar response in a phone call from their HR department. I currently have 192 hours. I wasn't told that i couldn't give the cadetship a crack, just that i would have to start again and that my hours would count for nothing. I reckon they would probably make me do the exams again too.