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Hi Guys,
Just noticed Aero-care Australia are recruiting baggage handlers at the moment. Does anyone here know much about the business and what its like to work for them? Eg. wages (penalty rates?), conditions ...
Also, as i am still studying i'd be available only on weekends and friday evenings so i'm sure i'm pushing it a bit there! What you think??
Cheers.
Just noticed Aero-care Australia are recruiting baggage handlers at the moment. Does anyone here know much about the business and what its like to work for them? Eg. wages (penalty rates?), conditions ...
Also, as i am still studying i'd be available only on weekends and friday evenings so i'm sure i'm pushing it a bit there! What you think??
Cheers.
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I worked for this company for two years in Cairns. They dont look after there staff. You get No penalties, or overtime ect. All Shift work and you can't ask for days off. Just hope that you get it, if not swap with someone else.As for not employing Pilots. Apart from myself there where 3 other guys with the licences. They dont like employing them as the know they will end up leaving for a flying job. (Which I Did).
Apart from that it is good to talk with the Tech Crew and the lovely ladies.
Coops
Apart from that it is good to talk with the Tech Crew and the lovely ladies.
Coops
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Shame to see they don't look after their employees... I hope the case is different in Sydney. Could i ask what the rate for a baggage handler/aircraft loader is/was?
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Go Skystar mate, if you can. They get paid more and treated better. You know the AC guys can work up to 13 hours, and there's technically no limit on how long they can work? Heard this from an AC employee, is this true across the board? If so, you guys need to get a union/agreement of some sort!!
And true, if you want to have a life/study/other job, forget it. I had two or three weeks left of study, would be in class all of 2 or 3 part days per week, rest of time they'd own me, but they didn't want a bar, even though have experience and happy to start at 2am if Ihad to. Seems they like turning down experience for newbies who don't care how crap they get treated. Know of 2 mates personally who had flying/ground handling background, working on much bigger a/c than 737s, who got the flick despite being available 24/7. Their loss I say!!
HOWEVER, if you just want some experience and something short term, why not? (But do give Skystar a try, by all accounts they are MUCH better to work for!!)
Good luck!!
And true, if you want to have a life/study/other job, forget it. I had two or three weeks left of study, would be in class all of 2 or 3 part days per week, rest of time they'd own me, but they didn't want a bar, even though have experience and happy to start at 2am if Ihad to. Seems they like turning down experience for newbies who don't care how crap they get treated. Know of 2 mates personally who had flying/ground handling background, working on much bigger a/c than 737s, who got the flick despite being available 24/7. Their loss I say!!
HOWEVER, if you just want some experience and something short term, why not? (But do give Skystar a try, by all accounts they are MUCH better to work for!!)
Good luck!!
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Ah, doesn't sound too good really!
I've been invited to an interview and been given the choice of 3 times, all on the same day LOL! I'll be interstate
I look forward to seeing the outcome when alternate arrangements are suggested...
As for Skystar, sounds great, but i live in Sydney...
I've been invited to an interview and been given the choice of 3 times, all on the same day LOL! I'll be interstate
I look forward to seeing the outcome when alternate arrangements are suggested...
As for Skystar, sounds great, but i live in Sydney...
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i worked for them for 4 years in different roles in 2 of their Australian operations and thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. You will in fact find that they pay more than Skystar, Menzies or most other ground handlers, offer excellent penalties on weekends and lots of other benefits. of course they will never match qf's pay rates, but then no other contract company can.
you might find the reason pilots are not preferred is they tend not to stay in one place too long, hence the expense to employ someone may be better invested in someone more stable. i can tell you from experience that 99% of people employed who were looking for flying work didn't last too long. it's a companies right to determine who they should employ and for what reason.
just wanted to show there is another angle to this...they also offer significant opportunities for advancement to higher positions something you may not find in other similar companies.
My advice to you "Willcome" is to make your own mind up and not be swayed by the biased, mis-informed opinions of those "experts" who have posted on this slanderous threads, judging by their profiles most have been around aviation for 5 minutes and are hardly qualified to be judging...
you might find the reason pilots are not preferred is they tend not to stay in one place too long, hence the expense to employ someone may be better invested in someone more stable. i can tell you from experience that 99% of people employed who were looking for flying work didn't last too long. it's a companies right to determine who they should employ and for what reason.
just wanted to show there is another angle to this...they also offer significant opportunities for advancement to higher positions something you may not find in other similar companies.
My advice to you "Willcome" is to make your own mind up and not be swayed by the biased, mis-informed opinions of those "experts" who have posted on this slanderous threads, judging by their profiles most have been around aviation for 5 minutes and are hardly qualified to be judging...
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biased, mis-informed opinions
judging by their profiles most have been around aviation for 5 minutes and are hardly qualified to be judging...
Topend from some of your comments in the past I'd hazard a guess you've speculated about certain things, we all do it mate, doesn't mean we're 'not qualified to be judging'... and there's more than a few people on here (D&G) who know a lot more than they let on, and are in a position to know... they just don't wish to be ovbious about wher ethey are/who they know...
Topend, I have to wonder what planet you're on.
I worked for them in sydney for 5 years from mid 2000 to 2005 in sydney. Impulse ramp, DHL Jedi, hazoz/rex ramp, VB, Lighties. Apart from the first 12 months on the Impulse operation where we were the gun turn around team in the world ( try 14 mins and 10s from on blox to push out) for a 717 with full oad in and out during the Olympics. oh and 2/3 of the boys there were active pilots.
But it all started to unravel in mid 2002. The owner started out as a top bloke and everyone got along with him, even to the point of the boys turning down union advances in 2002. But employing the wrong middle management.....including family was the turning point.
The final straw was the bringing in staff from quiet little outports(such as Townsville and Canberra.....one in particular wet behind the ears supervisor from townsville, all of 21 years old comes to mind) to tell the sydney guys how to run the Rex operation in Sydney ultimately cost them the Rex contarct. It told them it would happen before I left. The middle management was arrogant and out of touch.
Their moto, safety..............well ask airport doctors about their injury rate. efficiency, well u get efficient labour when you have staff being rostered to finish at 2am and start the next shift at 5am. I myself did 2 x 24 hr shifts. integrity.............mmmmm what was that rule about not allowing somone to give their ASIC to someone else to gain airside access.
In the final 6 months on the Rex op in Syd, we had almost 100% staff turnover in 7 weeks.
I worked for them in sydney for 5 years from mid 2000 to 2005 in sydney. Impulse ramp, DHL Jedi, hazoz/rex ramp, VB, Lighties. Apart from the first 12 months on the Impulse operation where we were the gun turn around team in the world ( try 14 mins and 10s from on blox to push out) for a 717 with full oad in and out during the Olympics. oh and 2/3 of the boys there were active pilots.
But it all started to unravel in mid 2002. The owner started out as a top bloke and everyone got along with him, even to the point of the boys turning down union advances in 2002. But employing the wrong middle management.....including family was the turning point.
The final straw was the bringing in staff from quiet little outports(such as Townsville and Canberra.....one in particular wet behind the ears supervisor from townsville, all of 21 years old comes to mind) to tell the sydney guys how to run the Rex operation in Sydney ultimately cost them the Rex contarct. It told them it would happen before I left. The middle management was arrogant and out of touch.
Their moto, safety..............well ask airport doctors about their injury rate. efficiency, well u get efficient labour when you have staff being rostered to finish at 2am and start the next shift at 5am. I myself did 2 x 24 hr shifts. integrity.............mmmmm what was that rule about not allowing somone to give their ASIC to someone else to gain airside access.
In the final 6 months on the Rex op in Syd, we had almost 100% staff turnover in 7 weeks.
Last edited by Ozgrade3; 5th Jan 2007 at 11:59.
mate i would hardly say it's unravelling...they handle virgin in most of the major regional ports, just picked up hobart and also do SQ and UA in SYD/ADL,with more international work in the pipeline. XR, DJ, PacBlue, Continental all seem pretty happy! the bottom line is they do the work that the airlines can't do themselves efficiently and far better than they can...but that's it from me.
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they do the work that the airlines can't do themselves efficiently and far better than they can
they handle virgin in most of the major regional ports
But, like I said, make up your own mind if you want to work for them... we're just giving our sides of the story, it's up to you to do what you will with the info you get. Try searching to see if they have any awards/agreements.
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My Aeroscare experience!
I am a former employee of Aerocare and worked with Ozgrade3 in the impulse 717 days. They were the good old days where the company was small enough that you knew everyone and there was good morale with the staff (mostly pilots) - all for $15 or so an hour (any hour!).
A lot of us got the flick from the company after Impulse became a part of QFlink, with the promise of being taken back on by the company when work became available.
I spoke to the GM early the next year as the company had just won the contract to handle Freedom air out of NTL. I was brushed off numerous times and given no reason why I was'nt to be taken back on. After slogging your guts out, working for peanuts it was a bit of a slap in the face. If you work with them don't expect any favours or any love to be returned.
I got the last laugh though. I ran into Old mate whilst I was working for JQ as ground staff. He asked why I was working for Jq and not for him. I laughed in his face. And told he had got to be kidding! And basically walked off.
At the end of the day if your after the experience GO FOR IT! But don't expect it to be the best job in the world. You may be working around aircraft, getting experience. The enthusiasm wears off quickly!!
As for me I can't complain too much, after being layed off from Aeroscare, I went to uni, was taken on by JQ as ground staff and since then have
worked as a flight attendant.
And am now working as a pilot, which in certain aspects (Pay especially!!) is kinda of like working for Aerocare all over again, but this time with a difference I'm following my own dream!
A lot of us got the flick from the company after Impulse became a part of QFlink, with the promise of being taken back on by the company when work became available.
I spoke to the GM early the next year as the company had just won the contract to handle Freedom air out of NTL. I was brushed off numerous times and given no reason why I was'nt to be taken back on. After slogging your guts out, working for peanuts it was a bit of a slap in the face. If you work with them don't expect any favours or any love to be returned.
I got the last laugh though. I ran into Old mate whilst I was working for JQ as ground staff. He asked why I was working for Jq and not for him. I laughed in his face. And told he had got to be kidding! And basically walked off.
At the end of the day if your after the experience GO FOR IT! But don't expect it to be the best job in the world. You may be working around aircraft, getting experience. The enthusiasm wears off quickly!!
As for me I can't complain too much, after being layed off from Aeroscare, I went to uni, was taken on by JQ as ground staff and since then have
worked as a flight attendant.
And am now working as a pilot, which in certain aspects (Pay especially!!) is kinda of like working for Aerocare all over again, but this time with a difference I'm following my own dream!
I got the last laugh though. I ran into Old mate whilst I was working for JQ as ground staff. He asked why I was working for Jq and not for him. I laughed in his face. And told he had got to be kidding! And basically walked off.
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G'day all, first time here.
Must add my 20 cents to this post. I worked for Aero-Care for 3 years in 3 different airports and found it to be one of the most enjoyable jobs that I ever had. Anything from loading B727 freighters and Saab's in SYD winters, to Fokker 50's in PER, and CO/DJ B737s in CNS - not to mention all of the different types of aircraft that you get your hands on with charter ops!!!
I have heard all of the negative sentiment from those above before, and from first-hand experience found that my former teammates who carried on like this were simply not suited for the job. They obviously expected more than they found, and I was never sorry to see them go.
Wilcome, as suggested by topend3 you would be much better off by making up your own mind, and ignoring the statements of those who have a bee in their bonnet about one thing or another. Those who have worked for other operators and heard second-hand information are simply not qualified to comment about a company they have never worked for. For every peanut who has something negative to say about any former employer, there are many more who see a very different picture.
If you are just looking for short-term experience with a view to moving onto something else you may be selling this company short for your future.
It may pay to ask the question 'why is Aero-Care now getting so big with airlines like SQ and UA getting involved?' I don't see this resulting from mismanagement.
Happy trails
Must add my 20 cents to this post. I worked for Aero-Care for 3 years in 3 different airports and found it to be one of the most enjoyable jobs that I ever had. Anything from loading B727 freighters and Saab's in SYD winters, to Fokker 50's in PER, and CO/DJ B737s in CNS - not to mention all of the different types of aircraft that you get your hands on with charter ops!!!
I have heard all of the negative sentiment from those above before, and from first-hand experience found that my former teammates who carried on like this were simply not suited for the job. They obviously expected more than they found, and I was never sorry to see them go.
Wilcome, as suggested by topend3 you would be much better off by making up your own mind, and ignoring the statements of those who have a bee in their bonnet about one thing or another. Those who have worked for other operators and heard second-hand information are simply not qualified to comment about a company they have never worked for. For every peanut who has something negative to say about any former employer, there are many more who see a very different picture.
If you are just looking for short-term experience with a view to moving onto something else you may be selling this company short for your future.
It may pay to ask the question 'why is Aero-Care now getting so big with airlines like SQ and UA getting involved?' I don't see this resulting from mismanagement.
Happy trails
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A total circus
They are the very height of incompetence. And its not because of the staff members that work there but due to the lack of training and staffing levels.
An accident waiting to happen.
An accident waiting to happen.