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Old 20th Jul 2010, 23:37
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185 -

I am beginning to suspect we might have crossed paths up in CV at some point!

I am guessing that it is an east/west strip?
(How did you work that out?!) - Edit - Oh, wait, you can see the DG in one of the pics!

Looks like classic Nebine type Mulga country, though.
Correct on both counts.

It's about halfway between Boatman and Wyandra.

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It's about halfway between Boatman and Wyandra.
...and bearing about 150 from CV VOR ?
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Have you been there, or are you looking at google earth?!
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This is my first post in this thread so mods can remove if its not appropriate. Its not Australia, but does look a lot like NZ. Anybody tell me what part of Europe?






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Old 21st Jul 2010, 00:55
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I am beginning to suspect we might have crossed paths up in CV at some point!
Quite probable, we run a 185 and 210 out of CV and we also look after the refuelling.

Between Boatman and Wyandra only leaves Narran.
And it would be out of action after rain. Ask Beachy what happens when a 210 MG sinks in at fast taxy on that strip.
Gave everyone a bit of a fright.

You are correct, I did look at the DG, got to use all the clues since the camera is focused on the windscreen.
cheers,
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 00:59
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Capt -

Have you been there, or are you looking at google earth?!
Not been there!

I'm looking at your compass and what your VOR Radials and FREQs are set to!

Google does reveal a station there. Name starts with a C.
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You guys are too good!!!

185 - Say hi to Chris when you see him next!

Beachy - Story??? Don't hold back!
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Rat,
we see Chris from time to time.
I vaguely remember when you guys were stuck down there, now.
I'll let Beachy relate that story.
Suffice to say, that there isn't much bottom in mulga soils, if you break through the crust. Very lucky that he had sufficient speed to get through and onto hard ground again. Could have happened to me that day as well.

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Old 21st Jul 2010, 01:27
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Airbumps - that would be Bergen, Norge. Or Noreg in that part of the country.
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that there isn't much bottom in mulga soils, if you break through the crust
Yeah, learned that the hard way, fortunatly, not in an aircraft though!

Will drop by when I am up there next.
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You guys are too good!!!
185 - Say hi to Chris when you see him next!
Beachy - Story??? Don't hold back!
Well...I'll be buggered if I could pick that strip as Narran!
When I was last there, the timber hadn't been pulled and the mulga was quite thick and high alongside the strip.

Yes....I well remember the trip into the Narran strip that C185 and I did after the 1994 flood. Chris and his family had been exiled from Narran for a couple of weeks, and were quite keen to get home to check on pets/livestock etc. The only way in was by plane.

IIRC, C185 had his 182 loaded to the max with groceries, and I had Chris and his family, the rest of the groceries (and a 40 inch TV) in the 210.
We had a pretty close look at the strip prior to landing, and it looked OK, except for the far western end.
C185 landed first without incident and advised that it all looked good! My touchdown was pretty uneventful until we slowed down to about 30 knots. At this point the left main broke through the crust and into the bottomless soup that is typical of Red Sandalwood country, and the plane tried to do an immediate sharp left-hand turn.
As I felt it break through, I rapidly applied full noise, and with full flap still on, the 210 rose out and up onto the hard stuff. We were very lucky to get away with it, and I may well have soiled myself.

C185 was able to avoid the situation completely due to his awesomeness,and the fact that he had a fair bit lighter aircraft.
This happened when we were both green young fellas starting to learn what it was all about!
If I had been in my Bonanza, it wouldn't have happened at all. I'm sure the only reason that the C210 managed to get out was because the ground repelled it due the inherent ugliness of Cessnas!

To those not familiar with Red Sandalwood country, the photo that Rats had posted is a very good example of the type. After large amounts of rain, this type of soil is totally bottomless after you break through the top crust.
Livestock transport operators out this way won't go near these properties for months, for fear of getting bogged or roll-over. When they do decide to venture out, they take a crow-bar with them, and drive it into the ground to ascertain what lies underneath. Stories have been told of the crow-bar going into the ground so quickly, that it is reefed from your hands and disappear feet below the surface, never to be seen again.
A Mate once went to load 4 decks of cattle (road train) on one of these properties, and came across a closed gate. After driving through, he walked back and closed the gate... only to observe the stationary unloaded dog (rear) trailer break through the surface and roll onto it's side. Nasty stuff.

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Small world!

and I may well have soiled myself.
Oh dear, I laughed so hard at your story, I spilled my coke all over my desk!

Well...I'll be buggered if I could pick that strip as Narran!
When I was last there, the timber hadn't been pulled and the mulga was quite thick and high alongside the strip.
Yep! I have been at Chris to clean it up since I started throwing PA31/PA60's at it!

He has cleared the sides and extended the clearway out to the west, which is good. For a while there, the trees were trying to take it back, (southern side, western end) but he cut them back again last year.



but he cut them back again last year.

That one above was like you described. When ever it rains, there is always standing water down that end. When I went there that year, the trees were regrouping for a final assualt to take back the runway and there was a huge amount of standing water, so I had to land off centreline before the puddle (pool?!) then once it was down, lift the right leg back off to clear the puddle, regain centreline and stop... Here are some results...





this type of soil is totally bottomless after you break through the top crust.
Yes... not an aviation photo, but this will give you an idea...



I have some videos that I am making youtube friendly of takeoff from last January this year if you want me to post them.

I have some night landing stories from there too, but I am not sure how much I want to incriminate my self!!!
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 04:16
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AirBumps: that was easy, it is Norway

Simsam

Edit: Didn't see compressor stalls entry, but I know the city, it is Oslo.

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I have some videos that I am making youtube friendly of takeoff from last January this year if you want me to post them.

I have some night landing stories from there too, but I am not sure how much I want to incriminate my self!!!
post away, abd just post a disclaimer if you might incriminate yourself, "a friend of mine" flying etc etc.
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Old 21st Jul 2010, 08:34
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Ratsore - is that PA60 UYY? I almost bought that in 2002 at Maitland.... until the pre-purchase showed the amount of bogged-up corrosion in the wing spars......
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Ratsore - is that PA60 UYY? I almost bought that in 2002 at Maitland.... until the pre-purchase showed the amount of bogged-up corrosion in the wing spars......
Indeed it is.

I flew it just after a major refurbishment. Wings stayed on ok too! What did you get instead?

post away, abd just post a disclaimer if you might incriminate yourself, "a friend of mine" flying etc etc.
It's nothing really that bad! Portable runway lighting on a dirt strip 50nm from the nearest town and no moon!

Will post em when I have put them on youtube!
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Took heed of some sage advice from some of the PPrune elders and had a bit of a lie down and some Bex, then skipped the aeroplane buying thing altogether .

Glad that its working out for you though.
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AirBumps: that was easy, it is Norway

Simsam

Edit: Didn't see compressor stalls entry, but I know the city, it is Oslo.
Wow, good work boys! Didn't think many people would recognise the city that quickly. Oslo it is.
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Chasing cows again!



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Old 21st Jul 2010, 12:07
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Typical f***ing yaks!!!
I bet you got the Bo covered in **** as well!

Pretty handy EFATO option at that strip.
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