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Old 4th Feb 2007, 13:16
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Old 4th Feb 2007, 20:38
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Can the rest of us giggle at and tease him now?

Wiz flies a traumahawk, wiz flies a traumahawk.....
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You got into an aircraft with Wiz, and survived ?.

Well i guess a monkey can do it .
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 02:21
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"You got into an aircraft with Wiz, and survived ?".

No way! That's one of my intrepid staff!!!!

I was taking the photo!
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 03:26
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Ahh...memories flood back...of doing my spin approval while doin an Instructors Rating with Trudy White some 23 years ago...of looking out through the rear perspex and watching the tail waggle
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Thanks Gaunty.

I think you'll find the same "waggly tail" in any aircraft that was spinning! If it didn't waggle it'd prolly fall off. If students are busy looking for a waggly tail instead of initiating the correct spin recovery then I guess there is more liklihood of a spin related accident!

BTW Trudy is now Trudy Robins, and still going strong here in WA as an independant ATO, a wonderful person is Trudy.
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I would agree with all that Gaunty...as someone who learned in Cessnas back when they still built them new, and who never sat in a Traumahawk until flying instructors course, I fall into the category of pilots who think the little Traumahawk is a much better trainer, overall, than Cessna's baby.

I still reserve the right to take the piss though

Interestingly it was a Cessna 150 aerobat that nearly killed me when it wouldn't recover from a spin...any aeroplane can bight...recovery was well below 500'

CFI it was during 'mutual'...we took turns holding it in a spin while the other watched out the back...I think the T tail waggles a lot more than anything else I have spun...spinning it beyond 4 or 5 turns was a hoot too..spin flattened out quite noticeably.

Yes Trudy was just 'living in sin' with Mr Robins in those days ...a marvellous instructor and a lovely person.

Her version of 'light matches under your nose' (as in Fate is the Hunter) would be called sexual harrassment these days

Any lady who calls her company T.W.A.T (Trudy White Air Transport) just has to be my kinda person


TRAT just don't have the same ring to it.
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 07:13
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I think you'll find the same "waggly tail" in any aircraft that was spinning! If it didn't waggle it'd prolly fall off.
Never saw the tail wiggle in the CT4....

Chimbu I had a similar thing happen in an aerobat (sparrowhawk conversion with the bigger donk), recovered at about 800 AGL I managed to crumple the forward elevator stop on the control yoke.....I was pushing forward that bloody hard
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My last effort at getting the nose down I shattered the tacho glass over the right hand yoke and ended up way past the verticle and half rolled before pulling out at 500' on the altimeter...just about 3 nm SE of Warragambah Dam...where the terrian is 300+ feet...higher in places

My student didn't notice anything was wrong until I handed over to him, climbing through about 800', and lit a cigarette with badly shaking hands...He noticed I was a little 'agitated' and asked what was wrong...I just pointed at the altimeter as we were still just passing 1000'. A few days later he rang me at home to thank me for 'saving his life'...I pointed out to him I was actually just saving mine
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I too had exactly the same thing happen in a C152 Aerobat out of Cairns in the early 90ís. After about 4 revolutions the spin became very flat. Tried to recover and nothing happened. I shouted to my student to lean forward as I did and I managed to recover just below 1000 ft. Nearly shat myself. For an aircraft that is so docile in the training environment, it bit me that day. I learnt not long after that an instructor at one of our competitors had exactly the same thing happen a few months later in their aerobat. All I could put it down to though was a C of G problem.
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There is something lacking in your pics from the southern hemisphere - any guesses
But at least it's bright up above.
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Just hope the skies over Avalon in March will be CAVOK
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 20:33
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We sure DO get plenty of that down south here.

(A free beer goes to the person that can spot the problem's in this photo - Jabiru jokes aside - there are around 5 things wrong with this picture, perhaps 6, however one is a double whammy)

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Some more pics from my very private collection.

See if you can identify some of the locations...




























And why do we bother with aircraft when we could have one of these!




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Old 5th Feb 2007, 21:06
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You're cruising at an IFR level whilst flying VFR, and without adequate cloud clearance, .

Those photo's of the river mouth on the coast, is that Hallidays Point by any chance??

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Guess again, it's in Vic.

Yep, good call, although on this occasion it was with an airways clearance, but with no transponder code assigned (happens occasionally).

There's one other significant fault and one other that will be hard to spot.
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 21:33
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Is it normal to fly a little Jab IFR in the yellow without a VOR/DME, ADF and GPS turned off as well as not having the DI & compass aligned?
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Old 5th Feb 2007, 21:36
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Spot the errors?

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Is it:
- slight disagreement between the compass and the DG (difficult to tell from photo but DG looks to be reading 135)?
- cruising VFR on top with no (legal) means of navigating?

And the 'river mouth' is Lakes Entrance.

UTR

Edit - bugger, beaten to it.... Do I at least get a light beer?
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Ooh, looks like it's not in straight and level flight either. The compass is tilted, airspeed is in the yellow and the right foot is buried on the rudder pedal, but the VSI reads zero and the ball is centred
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There is one other major instrumentation problem that you are still yet to notice. (Clue - My nickname is Buzz and I drink SUB zero)


I assure you it's totally above board. It was a VFR transit with clearance to 10,000ft (on climb). As much as the cloud looks solid, it was quite scattered so VFR over the top for 5-10 mins max. I was wondering at the time why I didn't get a code though... still not sure.

The GPS is actually turned on and rightly so, there is no VOR / ADF mounted in sight. So, by the letter of the law, for VFR over the top not strictly legal without a positive visual position fix.

The ASI is the old original J400 one and wasn't updated as it should have been. Green arc now extends to 125 knots.

DG is not aligned either. Perhaps the barrel rolls earlier toppled it

It was a requirement for VFR over the top as the solar panel needed sunlight to charge the battery for the DVD system Ahhh the joys of a homebuilt.
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