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Old 2nd May 2009, 07:55
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GNS-500. VH-SNL Litton equipped N-22 circa 1981

Never let a ship through
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Old 2nd May 2009, 08:00
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Anyone had a grapple with one of these?

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Old 2nd May 2009, 08:02
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Plenty of people here would recognize the Nomad Searchmaster!

Fitted with either an VLF Omega or an INS?, (plus 360 deg search radar and other goodies) for it's patrol/coastwatch role.

When the tenders went out, they specified the use of the Searchmaster. No doubt to bolster the sales of Nomads!

Oops! A bit slow with my reply!
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Old 2nd May 2009, 11:14
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That there would be the "Wog Dog", the italian-Built SM1019 turbine-version of the venerable C305.

Pay imported a swag of 'em in the late 1990s I think, and there are 2 still in Scone. I'll see if I can scratch up a photo of their air-attack ship which should be deployed in the 2009/10 fire season.
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Old 2nd May 2009, 11:20
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Ho.. we'll get Chucks up there to give flight test report
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Old 2nd May 2009, 18:41
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That there would be the "Wog Dog"
Wouldn't that be "Bird Dog"?
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Old 3rd May 2009, 00:35
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Take a gander at this! Ouch!







It was in a C310. Apparently the pilot lost oil pressure, temps went through the roof and smoke was billowing out of it. It was still making partial power so pilot decided to use all the power available on the engine to get to the field rather than secure it. It ran for 15 minutes before they shut it down once they landed and exited the runway (RH engine was running fine...). This is the result...

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Old 3rd May 2009, 04:37
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Can't understand why it was making only "partial power"

Someone's gonna be looking for a bucket of $$$'s

It ran for 15 minutes before they shut it down once they landed and exited the runway
Why would you do that
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Old 3rd May 2009, 04:51
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Originally Posted by Cloud Basher
...It ran for 15 minutes...
That is one seriously tough engine!!! Wouldn't count on every engine in a similar situation to perform as well!

BTW: Reckon it might be some considerable time before the 'pilot' controlling that engine is allowed anywhere near anything quite as expensive again
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Old 3rd May 2009, 05:18
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If she's lost oil pressure and is smoking, would shutting it down mean you could use it again?

Would using that last gasp of power from it perhaps help assure a safer outcome for your clients?

A LAME friend of mine once told me that if you lose the oil pressure suddenly, the engine is rooted no matter how promptly you secure it.
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Old 3rd May 2009, 06:04
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One went for thirty miles

I remember once flying a Vtail bonanza, for a couple of years. One day it was hired out to someone else, and and it arrived back at Parafield accompanied by the wail of a siren and fire engine. It had the windscreen and fuelage covered with oil and had flown the last thirty miles with no oil pressure showing on the guage.
A broken pipe was the problem, I think the one that went to the oil pressure guage.
The engineers checked it out and fixed the pipe, and that engine continued in service to it's full TBO period.
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Old 3rd May 2009, 07:06
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Close CB but not quite,
I'd recognise that piston anywhere, and to get a fair trial, here's what really happened.
Aircraft turned into a mosquito spray truck about the same time as the gear came up, about 90 seconds later (back on the ground having done a quick 180 and come back the way I came (no wind)) the engine was shutdown.
No it wasn't secured in flight, yes it was making power.
T's and P's all normal, pretty hard to see much smoke from where I was too.

We give the media a pretty hard time on here but some of us are pretty good at making sh@t up ourselves aren't we? Edit: sorry, it does say apparently.

Interesting post script: part of the troubleshooting process (by long distance) was to degrease it and crank it up again, which it did!
They are tough engines, and that one was truly stuffed.
Another piston looked similar, engineers thought that the oil squirters that direct oil onto the piston skirt and base may have blocked and eventually led to the piston burning through and pressurising the crankcase, hence the oil everywhere.
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Old 3rd May 2009, 10:05
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Interestingly, I flew the same route again today (see post #4720). GPS dropped out again in pretty much the same place. No indication of outtages on the RAIM prediction for YHUG:

TSO-C129(a) (and equivalent)
Fault Detection
No GPS RAIM FD Outages for NPA

TSO-C146a (and equivalent)
Fault Detection Only
No GPS RAIM FD Outages for NPA

TSO-C146a (and equivalent)
Fault Detection and Exclusion
No GPS RAIM FDE Outages for NPA

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Old 3rd May 2009, 10:52
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Tracking today between Ballarat and Cape Otway, Garmin 296 lost satellites, 300xl carried on happily. Could get satellites back by putting my open hand behind the aerial, velcroed to the front of the glareshield, when I got sick of that put the mobile phone on its side in the same place and all the satellites were there. Halfway acroos Bass Strait they all came back online without help from the open hand or the mobile phone. Strangest thing I have ever seen, thought the 296 had died but apparently it didn't like the satellite geometry.
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Old 3rd May 2009, 11:37
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I suspect Obama is selling the satellites to china for scrap.
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Old 3rd May 2009, 14:47
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Fred,
No problems at all, I am only going on second hand info (like most people here on PPRUNE!) as relayed to me by the big "Don", so please don't shoot the messenger. If the facts are wrong as they were relayed to me then I publicly apologise to you.

However I just want to make sure we are dealing with the same aircraft as this one was in Florida and again, what I was told was the aircraft was doing assymetrics at height and they (you?) had just shut down the right engine when they (you?) noticed smoke starting to eminate fromt he left engine (mosquito spraying!) and the oil pressure dropped to almost nothing and the temps went through the roof. You got the right engine restarted and used what was left of the left engine to ensure you main it back to CEW. If it was indeed you and from what you are saying in your post the "story" I have been told is complete S*#t! Again apologies if it is, and would love to have a beer and hear the complete real story! If you can confirm it I will drop you a line M and have a beer this arvo if you like!

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Old 4th May 2009, 12:03
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So you keep an engine running on partial power because you might need it. And the engine is most likely stuffed anyway. But save your arse and the airframe in a Piston twin which in the real world can be a dodgy affair on one. Where is the horrific airmanship crime here??? Lets have more Piccies!
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Old 4th May 2009, 12:24
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Here's an easy one! What aerodrome and what aircraft?
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Old 4th May 2009, 13:11
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I've never been there but by the orientation and geography could it be the strip on Fraser Island?
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Old 4th May 2009, 13:26
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OK, yet another for the What & Where phreaks



The What should be a doddle, the Where, we'll see!

Shot yesterday.
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