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Old 2nd Sep 2005, 07:42
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Rex Recruitment?

Does anyone know when Rex will recruit again? Heard they will lose quite a few drivers when ozjet start operations. Can you get a look in with minimal experience?

Also what sort of experience do you need to get into national jet? They never seem to advertise??

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Old 2nd Sep 2005, 12:14
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Rex Drivers

I assume you mean "pilots" limpwindsock.

Rex isn't stupid. When it loses the Ozjet bound pilots and they want their jobs back after Ozjet joins the house of Compass, they will get them back easily by offering them a fraction less than they are paying them now. In the mean time they can pick and choose who they will hire to fill the gaps on less pay and indeed who they will let back in. Airlines rarely rush into these decisions and almost always play their cards cleverly.
 
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Legal was just wondering how management could give the Oz jet guys and gals there jobs back ( If needed?) on less wages when REX has an EBA.
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And besides, REX still don't expect you to pay them for a job (becoming a minority these days?).

So I will give them the benefit of the doubt, that they are not a bunch of cnuts (don't work for 'em either).

If they don't charge drivers for a job - I wish them all the luck in the future!
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LC, Give it a rest will you ! This thread was about rex recruitment, as soon as someone mentions ozjet, your in there throwing all the punches. We are all aware of your opinion, how about you wait and see what happens. As for the pilots who have gone to ozjet, good on them they will get some 737 time(I know its 200 series but 737 none the less), and good luck to those who replace them at rex
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Legal Council is to Ozjet what Scumfish is to Qantas.
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Rex not bound

It is conceded that Rex is bound to apply the EBA to the re-hired pilots but it can circumvent the necessity to hire them on a full time basis or back on the same seniority.

Who is scumfish?
 
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I've had them sniffing around lately asking to update my CV at staff.cv (which I hadn't bothered to do for about 3 years ). Is something afoot?
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If any of the Rex guys that go to ozjet do return of course they will lose seniority as they will be rejoining the company as new hires and they know this. It is a leap of faith to leave any job to join a startup company to one that is that is by comparison secure. They will also be subject to the new eba as far as i know Rex do not hire on a part time basis (although the duties on some occassions look like they are)
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Casuals

These smaller operators would be better served by Casual Pilots.
 
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Now Legal Council, who hates Qantas with a passion? Scumfish of course!
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900Hours

At half the price, you could afford to give casuals quality training, plenty of time off and reduce your sick leave to zero. Does QF have casuals?
 
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Surely if you have two casuals doing the same job as ONE permanent, then the training costs would be doubled, the currency of the casual pilots might have to ensured by ROSTERING them on a flight which would have otherwise have been flown by a regular, full time pilot?


It is conceded that Rex is bound to apply the EBA to the re-hired pilots but it can circumvent the necessity to hire them on a full time basis or back on the same seniority
where would the necessity to re hire on the same seniority come from ?

as a legal counsel, it doesn't sound like you know jack**** about airlines, EBA's or the law!
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On the Contrary

Rex is an excellent position to exploit the virtues of casual employment without the threat of pilots leaving. The training budget can be tailored on a climbing scale to ensure only the best pilots reach senior positions. You can pay a Rex Captain training captain say 80K but a line Captain should be on no more than 40K pa.

Regional aviation needs fundamental changes to be made to reduce the cost of travel. Operations similar to road bus or coach would seem to me the way to go provided the quality of applicants is carefully screened and competencies addressed.

Pilots in Australia generally get big heads that they are above the rest of society and I think that has to be beaten out our culture. Yes, make sure all the safety features are in place but if you train more pilots and flood the market with them, you will see a much better served Australia. Frankly I believe a 737 Captain should only be on about 50K.

These are tough calls, I know, but the quicker we get to that level the better for everyone.
 
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My head became especially big about 3 years ago when I was I was flying a Navajo and was paid 25K while mates of mine were making 60K+ doing a trade with a bit of over time.

I was so proud that I had nearly achieved the same money per hour as a toilet cleaner. My head was so big it would be no use getting into Qantas 'cause they would not have a hat big enough to fit my head.
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50K Legal_ council. A Barrister charges how many dollars for someone else to photo copy your documents and a $1000 to answer your phone call. Get real mate. Go and bother someone else!!
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LC

I seriously hope your are kidding. if not you are a F*@kwit. There arnt many jobs in australia that you lose your job every 6 months and have to prove to someone that your worthy of that position. To electricians go through this No, Lawyers No, Accountants No, Engineers No (unless in house). Yes I agree there are some pilots out there with big heads and little piloting skills, however we put up with a lot of ****e to get where we are.

You are seriously an ill informed w*@nker who, judging on all your previous posts has it in for pilots. I personally believe you are no more than an unemployed git who attempts to baffle readers of these columns with Bulls@#t.

Go get a life moron.
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Legal_Counsel I would be curious to know how much you think a Legal Counsel should get paid.
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Old 9th Sep 2005, 05:16
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Smile On my break

Just having a cuppa here.

Since when do employers have to compensate you for getting your Pilot's Licence? I don't recall any such arrangement in any profession. So step back and think about how lucky pilots have been to be given that recognition.

For your information, my charge out rate is $285 per hour plus GST though I frequently take cases and charge nothing. I may only work for 20 hours/week. Would you fly as pilot in command for nothing?

A bus driver employed for 38 hours a week earns say $15/hour to drive a school bus or charter coach. His responsbility in my view far outweighs that of a pilot. So let's put it into perspective.

I get paid what the market will bear just as the bussy gets paid what the market will bear. Right now pilots get paid more than they deserve and the time is approaching where the market will determine that this price is too high. And employers know you just love flying so it's a perfect opportunity to lower costs.

 
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I frequently take cases and charge nothing.
Yeah, just like a pilot working out bush quite often sweeps hangar floors, cleans planes etc after hours and days off. You may take on cases for nothing, but how much exposure do you recieve ? or do you do it to make yourself feel better? Someone like yourself never does anything for "free ". Your name says it all, if you wanted to remain inconspicious, you would have chosen a name like "Frank" or "Joe" but your one of those egocentric suit types who needs to let everyone know that they're a lawyer. If you hadn't noticed there is a shortage of pilots becoming evident at the GA level (not huge, but gathering momentum), this then will move up the ladder, eventually leading to the airlines.

Tell me, when your sitting up front sipping your "cuppa" in business class,will you not be the first one off the plane when the captain comes over the PA with: "YAWN, Good morning ladies and Gentlemen, Sorry Im so weary, i was up all hours of the night at Woolies packing shelves because I cant afford to make ends meet....etc etc"?

Oh Yeah, one last question, if you dispise pilots and the aviation industry so much(and it seems that you do) WHY are you even on these forums?

Have a nice day
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