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A thread where ex PNG geriatrics lapuns and long longs can live in the dim distant past.
Where tall stories are accepted as fact. War stories are applauded. Grab a Brownie, pull up a story and join in a trip down memory lane!!! 
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PNG Ples Bilong Tok Tok
It will be interesting to see how all this plays out.
If CASA roll over on this it will set a precedence for other certificate holders to ignore CASA directions.
This behavior by NAC certainly isn't good for aviation safety in PNG as a whole. Hagen airport should also be immediately closed, the main runway it's an absolute disgrace particularly given that it's only just been upgraded and resurfaced - concrete to fill the pot holes and the corrugations! It reminds me of Ononge.
The revenue that NAC are getting doesn't appear to be going into safety and critical aerodrome maintenance.
If CASA roll over on this it will set a precedence for other certificate holders to ignore CASA directions.
This behavior by NAC certainly isn't good for aviation safety in PNG as a whole. Hagen airport should also be immediately closed, the main runway it's an absolute disgrace particularly given that it's only just been upgraded and resurfaced - concrete to fill the pot holes and the corrugations! It reminds me of Ononge.
The revenue that NAC are getting doesn't appear to be going into safety and critical aerodrome maintenance.
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It reminds me of Ononge.
Ononge wasn't all that bad way back in the early 90's anyway. So what's happened?
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Hagen is worse, and that's taxying in a Dash 8, not to mention taking off or landing.
I repeat; I weep for that Country.
My long term plan way back then was to stay there for at least 10 to 15 years, maybe even longer, but fate decided otherwise.
Maybe fate knew better.....
Frado.
G’day Big E,
how goes it?
Jed
8 October 2022
how goes it?
Jed
8 October 2022
G'day Torres. In reply to your #2411.
What about Len Clampett? I seem to recall, from my time at the Crowley hangar in Lae (1974), that he was reputed to do steep approaches and move through beta into reverse at near touchdown and then stop in about an aircraft length.
Best Regards for the festivities etc. Big E.
What about Len Clampett? I seem to recall, from my time at the Crowley hangar in Lae (1974), that he was reputed to do steep approaches and move through beta into reverse at near touchdown and then stop in about an aircraft length.
Best Regards for the festivities etc. Big E.
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Max Parker passed away yesterday, 30 December 2022.
Funeral details in due course.
RIP Max!
Funeral details in due course.
RIP Max!
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Kagamuga.
Ah, yes, the near new Bandit P2-RDL at POM:
And the Baron in the Huon Gulf and the Porter at Karimui........
Which lead to Junior's immortal words: "Can't drown the b*stard. Can't burn the b*stard. Better sack the b*stard!!" Then gave Max a job in Solomons or Vanuatu.
A few of us are actually surprised Max's demise came from natural causes!
Ah, yes, the near new Bandit P2-RDL at POM:
And the Baron in the Huon Gulf and the Porter at Karimui........
Which lead to Junior's immortal words: "Can't drown the b*stard. Can't burn the b*stard. Better sack the b*stard!!" Then gave Max a job in Solomons or Vanuatu.
A few of us are actually surprised Max's demise came from natural causes!
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Max was one pilot we all admired, looked up to and learnt so much from. Sadly, gone but never to be forgotten.
Max checked me out in the Territory Airlines C185, later the C336 (push me, pull me - half an engine up front and a half behind !) and the delightful Beech 55 Baron between 1965 and 1967.
Hid drinking and Party exploits were stuff of legends but Max always fronted up for work early the next day - rain, hail or shine and got the job done.
A brilliant Aviator in every respect that we all respected enormously.
Who could ever forget his cheeky smile and those 'fashion statement' hand made leather ankle boots that we also admired enormously !
RIP and Vale our true friend, colleague and superb Aviator.
Max checked me out in the Territory Airlines C185, later the C336 (push me, pull me - half an engine up front and a half behind !) and the delightful Beech 55 Baron between 1965 and 1967.
Hid drinking and Party exploits were stuff of legends but Max always fronted up for work early the next day - rain, hail or shine and got the job done.
A brilliant Aviator in every respect that we all respected enormously.
Who could ever forget his cheeky smile and those 'fashion statement' hand made leather ankle boots that we also admired enormously !
RIP and Vale our true friend, colleague and superb Aviator.
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The flamenco guitar player at Daru.
[QUOTE=Kateosul;10986849]Brian was my father who died as a result of an accident in PNG as you no doubt heard. I have very little information or insight into his life in PNG but can see you knew him well. I would love to hear any memories you have or any reflections or details about him and if by any chance you ask have that tape or him playing, I would love to hear it. I was 7 when he died.
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I am not so sure it was Brian who was the Flamenco guitar player at Daru. During one of my stays at Daru with Macair we had a seafood barbecue and “Greenie” was there ( fisheries) and the captain of the Government fishing survey vessel. A long haired fellow, a patrol officer played flamenco and he was extraordinarily good. I has a good chat with him. He had studied u der Segovia in Spain and was taking a break from the years of training. I was surprised that he was not touring the world’s great stages but understood when he explained the stresses if it.
Jed
Brian was my father who died as a result of an accident in PNG as you no doubt heard. I have very little information or insight into his life in PNG but can see you knew him well. I would love to hear any memories you have or any reflections or details about him and if by any chance you ask have that tape or him playing, I would love to hear it. I was 7 when he died so have very few memories of him.
I am not so sure it was Brian who was the Flamenco guitar player at Daru. During one of my stays at Daru with Macair we had a seafood barbecue and “Greenie” was there ( fisheries) and the captain of the Government fishing survey vessel. A long haired fellow, a patrol officer played flamenco and he was extraordinarily good. I has a good chat with him. He had studied u der Segovia in Spain and was taking a break from the years of training. I was surprised that he was not touring the world’s great stages but understood when he explained the stresses if it.
Jed
G’day Rick.
G’day Rick,
Has been a long time.
Jed
+61 412 068 186
Has been a long time.
Jed
+61 412 068 186
I brought BJK home to Australia -QF POM SYD To his family.
on board were the GAF chief pilot and engineering team.
an hour into the flight the CP plonked down beside me with a skinful and said “ sorry Rick we thought we’d solved the problem.“ he explained there had been a bad batch of governors on the Allison.
symptoms were that as the power levers were retarded the failure sent that engine to 50% torque.
there had been two cases in Australia - one an army acft at top of descent.
So the prop went to 100% RPM but only 50% torque - regardless of what you did with the TL -
the only solution was to shut the engine down - in the flare Brian didn’t have time to do that - he had already floated a 100 ft so he attempted a rejected landing.
the wheel marks showed a swing to the left, on ground 50 ft.
And with only 1.5 engines working Brian couldn’t out climb the terrain.
Re wheel marks: the Nomad had auto retract of flaps from 40 to 25 when over 50% Tq was applied causing a slight sink before climbing away
the other feature of the N22 was that if stalled in a turn it would flick wings level - but not with assy power.
Sad day.
BTW I flew the first N22 ever in service out of Wewak in 1976, for AT in 1978 (and Talair Madang in 1979)
Correction = that was B55 and BN2 in Madang with Ian Leslie on vacation from my chopper job in Oz - sick huh?
on board were the GAF chief pilot and engineering team.
an hour into the flight the CP plonked down beside me with a skinful and said “ sorry Rick we thought we’d solved the problem.“ he explained there had been a bad batch of governors on the Allison.
symptoms were that as the power levers were retarded the failure sent that engine to 50% torque.
there had been two cases in Australia - one an army acft at top of descent.
So the prop went to 100% RPM but only 50% torque - regardless of what you did with the TL -
the only solution was to shut the engine down - in the flare Brian didn’t have time to do that - he had already floated a 100 ft so he attempted a rejected landing.
the wheel marks showed a swing to the left, on ground 50 ft.
And with only 1.5 engines working Brian couldn’t out climb the terrain.
Re wheel marks: the Nomad had auto retract of flaps from 40 to 25 when over 50% Tq was applied causing a slight sink before climbing away
the other feature of the N22 was that if stalled in a turn it would flick wings level - but not with assy power.
Sad day.
BTW I flew the first N22 ever in service out of Wewak in 1976, for AT in 1978 (and Talair Madang in 1979)
Correction = that was B55 and BN2 in Madang with Ian Leslie on vacation from my chopper job in Oz - sick huh?
The Port Moresby Gliding Club.
I still live with all my time in PNG aviation beautifully remembered.
P2- PNG & P2-PNG were my two favourite aircraft as Porters. I introduced the B200 which became P2-PNG when CAA stole the rego’s off Macair. It was Michael Somare’s personal transport and he loved it. I trained up Clive McClever to fly it for after I went back to Norfolk Island Airlines. It was Green and Guy who established the gliding club after leaving the refuelling to the fuel bois. Big mistake.
it is such a shame to see PNG going the way it has. I am constantly reminded that I along with so many other lapun’s should record our stories for posterity, but, how many of us have. I believe Graham Syphers was in the process when he crossed over the bridge and Lyn tells me she is getting it tidied up for publishing. It should be a good read.
lukim yu.
Lapun Jed.
P2- PNG & P2-PNG were my two favourite aircraft as Porters. I introduced the B200 which became P2-PNG when CAA stole the rego’s off Macair. It was Michael Somare’s personal transport and he loved it. I trained up Clive McClever to fly it for after I went back to Norfolk Island Airlines. It was Green and Guy who established the gliding club after leaving the refuelling to the fuel bois. Big mistake.
it is such a shame to see PNG going the way it has. I am constantly reminded that I along with so many other lapun’s should record our stories for posterity, but, how many of us have. I believe Graham Syphers was in the process when he crossed over the bridge and Lyn tells me she is getting it tidied up for publishing. It should be a good read.
lukim yu.
Lapun Jed.
Is P2-CAA the B200 that belonged to The legendary Moresby Gliding Club? I think it was originally P2-PNG when bought to replace the original Cessna 421, if so it must be over 35 years old?
This trick will have no impact
If I fill her up with fuel
I’ll take enough for Top of Climb
And glide in from Mount Yule”
This trick will have no impact
If I fill her up with fuel
I’ll take enough for Top of Climb
And glide in from Mount Yule”
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This trick will have no impact
That was Wes's little party trick as I recall ?
I can only recall P2-PNG as a GII in the old days - I knocked up a flash little trimsheet for it based on the two I had recently done for Associated. The drivers, as I got the story, saw the Associated sheets and decided that they had to have one ...
That was Wes's little party trick as I recall ?
I can only recall P2-PNG as a GII in the old days - I knocked up a flash little trimsheet for it based on the two I had recently done for Associated. The drivers, as I got the story, saw the Associated sheets and decided that they had to have one ...