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A thread where ex PNG geriatrics lapuns and long longs can live in the dim distant past.
Where tall stories are accepted as fact. War stories are applauded. Grab a Brownie, pull up a story and join in a trip down memory lane!!! 
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PNG Ples Bilong Tok Tok
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Looks like PNG is finally conceding that buying 40 Maseratis to drive around on Port Moresby's roads for a few weeks during a conference might not have been the smartest decision. I'm astonished that there are any of them left at this point.
Caribou crash 1995
Looking for more info on the history and background of the Caribou crash in Kiunga. There is scant information online other than two engines eventually failed near Kiunga after diverting there from Tabubil after a flight from POM. Who was Garamut Aviation and Vanimo Trading? How did a military aircraft rarely registered as a civilian aircraft end up on the register in PNG? Was there a proper investigation ever done? And what of the only survivor?
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Caribou Crash near Kiunga
It is now over 25 years since but a comprehensive investigation and report was completed and published, somebody more savvy than I may be able to provide a link. Ansett MAL had operated a Caribou inPNG in the 60s, so the precedent had been set. Garamut was a Vanimo based trading company, headed up by Philip ………. which established a food and goods wholesale/retail operation at Tabubil, the site of the Ok Tedi mine township and airfield.
The Caribou was carrying perishables from Port Moresby, and shut down an engine either en route, or on the (weather or asymmetric) diversion to Kiunga on the Fly River. There is an NDB approach at Kiunga, but the Tabubil published approach only places you at the entrance to its valley.
The tragedy was, Ningerum, a large strip on the River could support a Caribou may have been visible prior to the failure of the second engine.
There are contributors on this site who know more than I do, so this may get the discussion started. I worked for Ansett in PNG, and although I did not fly it, I was told non-allowance of reverse thrust on the Caribou (buffer for wet runway) killed the performance calculations.
Garamut went on to buy a Caravan and traded for a few years after the crash.
The Caribou was carrying perishables from Port Moresby, and shut down an engine either en route, or on the (weather or asymmetric) diversion to Kiunga on the Fly River. There is an NDB approach at Kiunga, but the Tabubil published approach only places you at the entrance to its valley.
The tragedy was, Ningerum, a large strip on the River could support a Caribou may have been visible prior to the failure of the second engine.
There are contributors on this site who know more than I do, so this may get the discussion started. I worked for Ansett in PNG, and although I did not fly it, I was told non-allowance of reverse thrust on the Caribou (buffer for wet runway) killed the performance calculations.
Garamut went on to buy a Caravan and traded for a few years after the crash.
Ansett Mandated Air Lines operated a DHC-4 Caribou, VH-BFC.
New aircraft from factory, flown to Sydney across Pacific
Colourful story; best told in Volume II of the 'Balus' trilogy; including recovering engines from crashed RAAF Caribou that crashed at Porgera.
ASN Aircraft accident de Havilland Canada C-7A Caribou (DHC-4) P2-VTC Kiunga (aviation-safety.net)
Crash of a De Havilland DHC-4A Caribou in Kiunga: 2 killed | Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives (baaa-acro.com)
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New aircraft from factory, flown to Sydney across Pacific
Colourful story; best told in Volume II of the 'Balus' trilogy; including recovering engines from crashed RAAF Caribou that crashed at Porgera.
ASN Aircraft accident de Havilland Canada C-7A Caribou (DHC-4) P2-VTC Kiunga (aviation-safety.net)
Crash of a De Havilland DHC-4A Caribou in Kiunga: 2 killed | Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives (baaa-acro.com)
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I believe Robert Jeung was the principal of Vanimo Trading Company.
Interestingly, the Caribou type has a bit of a history regarding accidents where one engine failed and then the second overheated and subsequently failed too.
Interestingly, the Caribou type has a bit of a history regarding accidents where one engine failed and then the second overheated and subsequently failed too.
One of Bill Ticehurst's P166 drivers Feb 64-Dec 65
I think the RAAF DHC4 - or its remnants sans bits 'salvaged' by ANSETT-MAL - was utilised as a hen-house?
Operating from the old 'town strip' was pretty good fun - way back when!!
Operating from the old 'town strip' was pretty good fun - way back when!!
Unrelated however this https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=20161031-0 occurred only a few years ago not far over the boarder - potentially (???) overloaded based on the report……. And this doesn’t still occur in PNG🤫
And the old school boys in management in some outfits recon safety management systems are only lip service appeasers for the regulators and high paying clients🤫
And the old school boys in management in some outfits recon safety management systems are only lip service appeasers for the regulators and high paying clients🤫
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Rob Harvey - Madang
Non aviation related but I'm trying to contact an expat, Rob Harvey.
My understanding is that Rob, an ex-pat Kiwi was living in/near Madang circa 2011.
I'm reliably informed that he owned a big workshop & transport company (Amri Transport) based in Madang.
He may have moved back to Aus a few years back.
Any advise gratefully received via PM.
BAz
My understanding is that Rob, an ex-pat Kiwi was living in/near Madang circa 2011.
I'm reliably informed that he owned a big workshop & transport company (Amri Transport) based in Madang.
He may have moved back to Aus a few years back.
Any advise gratefully received via PM.
BAz
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I weep for that Country.
chimbu warrior; The last I heard, there was virtually no GA activity into the old Bush strips I once knew. ie the old 'Jungles' run; Kagi, Efogi, Nadinumu, Bodinumu etc etc. And places like Woitape, Fane, Erume, Tapini, Kamulai, Sopu etc were rarely visited.
And the shorter of the two strips at Jacksons had been closed.
Can you give a bit of an update on just what is going on?
chimbu warrior; The last I heard, there was virtually no GA activity into the old Bush strips I once knew. ie the old 'Jungles' run; Kagi, Efogi, Nadinumu, Bodinumu etc etc. And places like Woitape, Fane, Erume, Tapini, Kamulai, Sopu etc were rarely visited.
And the shorter of the two strips at Jacksons had been closed.
Can you give a bit of an update on just what is going on?
I weep for that Country.
Pinky I am no longer in PNG, but on my last visit 14R/32L at POM was operational. Agree that bush flying is near non-existent, with even MAF doing less flying. Of course without Nadzab operational the entire Huon Peninsula would be virtually stuffed.
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From his Facebook page I see Jeeves is regularly operating a Twotter into the Goilala.
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chimbu warrior, Thanks for that.
I've often wondered what was done with all the Bongo airframes, as I once perused the PNG Aircraft register and from memory not one BN2 was listed!
I've often wondered what was done with all the Bongo airframes, as I once perused the PNG Aircraft register and from memory not one BN2 was listed!
On August 31st 2022, CASA PNG shut down Lae/Nadzab and Kiunga airports.
Yesterday the High Court instructs the CASA to re-open the airports
Last night, at 21:04 ( 9.04pm) Fri 2nd, CASA issues a further instruction closing Lae/Nadzab and Kiunga airports again.
Clearly there is a bunch of lunatics whom has escaped from the asylum. CASA issues a lawful instruction, the Judiciary try and interfere.
Power struggle between senseless people?
Yesterday the High Court instructs the CASA to re-open the airports
Last night, at 21:04 ( 9.04pm) Fri 2nd, CASA issues a further instruction closing Lae/Nadzab and Kiunga airports again.
Clearly there is a bunch of lunatics whom has escaped from the asylum. CASA issues a lawful instruction, the Judiciary try and interfere.
Power struggle between senseless people?