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Old 11th Feb 2021, 03:06
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Yay! It worked! The photo is Brian at Woitape. It was the last time I saw him. I left PNG shortly after. I think this is about January 1979
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Old 11th Feb 2021, 09:11
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G'day from Dublin Kateosul

I knew your dad in PNG - as they say here in Ireland - he was a "Gas man" - always in a great mood with a swagger about him - particularly in his laplap -
He was a big hit with the ladies - a charmer
We were the same age - I was in PNG for about 5 years with the Housing Commission - I can still see Brian heading to my desk - checking out where we might have a beer after work.
I left PNG shortly before Brian's crash - I think I read somewhere that he aborted a landing because of people or pigs on the strip - not sure about that - others on this forum would know more.
One of our mutual friends - Brain Aldrich - is still in PNG - AKT associates - his email is [email protected] - I am sure he would be only too pleased to let you have his thoughts
All the Best
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Old 11th Feb 2021, 09:12
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Seeking information about Brian O’Sullivan

Originally Posted by skycoolie View Post
Hello Kate(?),

I knew your Dad well. We flew together with Douglas Airways in 1978. I have tried to send you some photos of your Dad, but the site wouldn't let me post them (or I am too computer illiterate to make it work!).

I like to think that we were friends. I certainly enjoyed his company and the many times we flew together and had adventures

All the. best,
Ric Raymond
Thanks so much Ric for the photo. Keep them coming if you have any more.! Also happy if you can email me [email protected]. Would love to hear about any of those adventures, his personality, anything really. What was he like? I'm trying to get a sense of him but I only have a few photos and news clippings. We were in Australia so I have so few memories of my own.
Who else was he close to?
Thanks Kate
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Old 11th Feb 2021, 09:23
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Originally Posted by descol View Post
G'day from Dublin Kateosul

I knew your dad in PNG - as they say here in Ireland - he was a "Gas man" - always in a great mood with a swagger about him - particularly in his laplap -
He was a big hit with the ladies - a charmer
We were the same age - I was in PNG for about 5 years with the Housing Commission - I can still see Brian heading to my desk - checking out where we might have a beer after work.
I left PNG shortly before Brian's crash - I think I read somewhere that he aborted a landing because of people or pigs on the strip - not sure about that - others on this forum would know more.
One of our mutual friends - Brain Aldrich - is still in PNG - AKT associates - his email is [email protected] - I am sure he would be only too pleased to let you have his thoughts
All the Best
Des Collins - Dublin
Thanks Des, I really appreciate your thoughts and the contacts for Brian. I will try him. Yes it seems that villagers were in the strip from what I've heard. But I can see how many accidents have occurred in PNG and the dangers of flying. If you thinking of anything else about him, let me know.
Cheers, Kate
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 09:19
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Hello

Originally Posted by Kateosul View Post
Brian was my father who died as a result of an accident in PNG as you no doubt heard. I have very little information or insight into his life in PNG but can see you knew him well. I would love to hear any memories you have or any reflections or details about him and if by any chance you ask have that tape or him playing, I would love to hear it. I was 7 when he died so have very few memories of him.
Kate, you may remember me? I used to come over to Glenmore Road, Paddington, and play the lute and guitar. I have fond memories of your parents as generous, fun-loving people; and I remember you!

I was overseas on a music tour when another of Brian's friends, Don Godden, phoned about the accident, some weeks after it happened. I was devastated. Worse still, I didn't know how or where to contact Roz. It would be good to chat. Mike
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Old 26th Feb 2021, 16:11
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I brought BJK home to Australia -QF POM SYD To his family.
on board were the GAF chief pilot and engineering team.
an hour into the flight the CP plonked down beside me with a skinful and said “ sorry Rick we thought we’d solved the problem.“ he explained there had been a bad batch of governors on the Allison.
symptoms were that as the power levers were retarded the failure sent that engine to 50% torque.
there had been two cases in Australia - one an army acft at top of descent.
So the prop went to 100% RPM but only 50% torque - regardless of what you did with the TL -
the only solution was to shut the engine down - in the flare Brian didn’t have time to do that - he had already floated a 100 ft so he attempted a rejected landing.
the wheel marks showed a swing to the left, on ground 50 ft.
And with only 1.5 engines working Brian couldn’t out climb the terrain.
Re wheel marks: the Nomad had auto retract of flaps from 40 to 25 when over 50% Tq was applied causing a slight sink before climbing away
the other feature of the N22 was that if stalled in a turn it would flick wings level - but not with assy power.
Sad day.
BTW I flew the first N22 ever in service out of Wewak in 1976, for AT in 1978 (and Talair Madang in 1979)
Correction = that was B55 and BN2 in Madang with Ian Leslie on vacation from my chopper job in Oz - sick huh?

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Old 26th Feb 2021, 17:01
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Originally Posted by bob johns

Kate,

Bob Johns

Many years since I've spoken with Bob so this might not be accurate. Would be approaching his eighties I think.

Try R Johns Moree, NSW in White Pages (02) 6752 2450

Good luck.

I worked for Douglas Airways for two days in 1974 - then in Daru for a year 1982/83.

(I have 200 hours on Nomads)

Brian May 03 5442 6896

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Old 27th Feb 2021, 01:15
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I’ll post this here and not on Kagamunga’s toksave about Sir Michael’s passing.

I spoke to my sister about some of the Somare children who went to boarding school in Lismore NSW. He was PM then and visited Lismore occasionally. Bertha Somare was in the year behind my sister. Both had common school friends of an Australia family who’s father had worked in PNG. Janice R.....
Bertha spent holidays nearby with them (I’ll deidentify). Janice R.... brother Peter R .... who I knew was at one time the boyfriend of L....Parr, sister of Andy Parr ex Talair (P2-ISG Mt Masaka).

i’m thinking somewhere in this is perhaps Andy’s decision to go to PNG.

RIP both good men.

My sister sent this of Sir Michael meeting Bertha in Lismore. (search Bertha Somare St Mary’s High School Lismore).
Bertha started high school 1978. ?RAAF aircraft in background transported PM to Lismore ....1978-1983.





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Old 9th Mar 2021, 10:46
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Brian O’Sullivan

Originally Posted by Flingwing47 View Post
I brought BJK home to Australia -QF POM SYD To his family.
on board were the GAF chief pilot and engineering team.
an hour into the flight the CP plonked down beside me with a skinful and said “ sorry Rick we thought we’d solved the problem.“ he explained there had been a bad batch of governors on the Allison.
symptoms were that as the power levers were retarded the failure sent that engine to 50% torque.
there had been two cases in Australia - one an army acft at top of descent.
So the prop went to 100% RPM but only 50% torque - regardless of what you did with the TL -
the only solution was to shut the engine down - in the flare Brian didn’t have time to do that - he had already floated a 100 ft so he attempted a rejected landing.
the wheel marks showed a swing to the left, on ground 50 ft.
And with only 1.5 engines working Brian couldn’t out climb the terrain.
Re wheel marks: the Nomad had auto retract of flaps from 40 to 25 when over 50% Tq was applied causing a slight sink before climbing away
the other feature of the N22 was that if stalled in a turn it would flick wings level - but not with assy power.
Sad day.
BTW I flew the first N22 ever in service out of Wewak in 1976, for AT in 1978 (and Talair Madang in 1979)
Correction = that was B55 and BN2 in Madang with Ian Leslie on vacation from my chopper job in Oz - sick huh?
I can see an attempted message but I'm not able to get any messages in this platform for some reason so you could email me at [email protected] if you would like to.
Cheers Kate


I think you can receive Messages after 5 (or is it 10?) posts. Necessary anti spam configuration. Sorry.

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Old 14th Mar 2021, 03:32
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A Gathering in Memory of our Friend Graham Syphers

We are attempting to organise a gathering on Saturday 12th June starting at 11:00am, probably at the RSL in Nambour Queensland. Before we can finalise the venue we will need to get an indication from anyone who wishes to attend as the numbers will depend on the size of the room we reserve. The reason that we have chosen the RSL is that they have food and drinks available for purchase and it is within walking distance to the railway station and 3 motels for those who wish to stay overnight. It is also not too far from the Sunshine Coast Airport and I'm sure that we can arrange to have someone pick up those who wish to fly in.

This will be in place of our annual Macair gathering.

If anyone is interested in attending I would appreciate it if you can PM me to let me know if you can attend by the end of this month so that we can finalise the arrangements.

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Old 27th Mar 2021, 04:28
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RIP Sir Michael
Wewak Jan 1976. VH-ELN leased while P2-AIT was being built.


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Old 6th Apr 2021, 22:36
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Another Obituary
Mal Smith served with him in Vietnam and came across him and his missus again in Lae.
RIP

Former PNG Governor Malcolm Kela Smith dies from COVID-19 in Brisbane


The Papua New Guinea man who died in a southeast Queensland hospital from COVID-19 complications this week was a former governor and respected businessman.

Malcolm “Mal” Kela Smith was a two-time governor of the Eastern Highlands and a pioneer of PNG’s aviation industry. The 77-year-old passed away in the intensive care unit at the Redcliffe Hospital on Monday after he had been evacuated from PNG on March 28.

Among Mr Smith’s ventures was Pacific Helicopters, which helped transport people living in regional areas to medical appointments.

According to local media, all businesses owned by Mr Smith, including Pacific Helicopters, were closed on Monday following news of his passing.

The former governor was a dual PNG/UK citizen. He was born in London and immigrated to Australia as a child, where he completed his education before going on to serve with distinction in the Australian Defence Forces.

In 1969, he was posted to PNG and has lived there since. PNG officials are understood to be in the process of repatriating his body back to the country.

Robert Agarobe, the Governor for PNG’s Central Province, wrote Mr Smith had been a “dear friend.”

“My aviation life with Malcolm Kela Smith was a love and hate relationship and competitors and we had our moments, however, we were best of friends who shared more than a few beers together and assisted each other in times of need when it came to work,” Mr Agarobe said.

“We both had the out most (sic) respect for each other as brothers and aviators. A though bugger, a true aviator and a legend.

“Rest easy my friends till we meet again … Have a beer on my behalf, I’ll be doing the same.”

Queensland Health said the death won’t be included in the state’s COVID-19 death toll, which has stood at six since April last year, because the case was not detected in Queensland.

Papua New Guinea’s health system is being decimated by the pandemic, with a number of patients being transferred to Queensland.

A total of 7406 cases of COVID-19 have been detected in PNG since the onset of the pandemic, and 67 deaths have been recorded.
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