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No Speedjet, it was 23K Gross. Who would discuss a package in net terms anyway?
p.s It is illegal to make deductions from an employees paypacket without prior written consent. Hence the employer must provide a payslip for the employee to determine if any of his pay has been deducted for whatever reason. If any of you folk out there are not receiving a payslip contact the ATO immediately.
p.s It is illegal to make deductions from an employees paypacket without prior written consent. Hence the employer must provide a payslip for the employee to determine if any of his pay has been deducted for whatever reason. If any of you folk out there are not receiving a payslip contact the ATO immediately.
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I seem to recall this same discussion over thirty years ago! The only thing that's changed is the aspiring pilots.
Still the same aircraft - only thirty years ago they were near new C206's, C402's and B55 Barons, now with many thousand hours on old tired air frames...........
Aviation is terribly predictable - the more things change, the more they remain the same!
Woomera
Still the same aircraft - only thirty years ago they were near new C206's, C402's and B55 Barons, now with many thousand hours on old tired air frames...........
Aviation is terribly predictable - the more things change, the more they remain the same!
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OZ Superman
Savannah has launched numerous careers, just as McDonalds, KMart , coles etc. None of these companies are lily white nor pay normal wages, provide company cars etc.
I have never been employed by Savannah, but have had the professional aquaintenance of many of their pilots, some of whom were qualified solicitors in their previous life.
I'm quite sure that these legal eagles would have taken action against Savannah if a supportable case existed.
Savannah has also helped numerous pilots get started in their careers, a virtual impossibility in their home state of Victoria, a non GA state of Australia.
Yes, life is tough, indeed character building, outside of the non GA oriented metropolis's of Australia.
Do you honestly believe that you are employable as a multi-engine instrument rated pilot straight out of the sausage factories?
Not really! please take a reality check and realise this company launches careers, and doesn't support paid ICUS as is so common in Vic.
Savannah has launched numerous careers, just as McDonalds, KMart , coles etc. None of these companies are lily white nor pay normal wages, provide company cars etc.
I have never been employed by Savannah, but have had the professional aquaintenance of many of their pilots, some of whom were qualified solicitors in their previous life.
I'm quite sure that these legal eagles would have taken action against Savannah if a supportable case existed.
Savannah has also helped numerous pilots get started in their careers, a virtual impossibility in their home state of Victoria, a non GA state of Australia.
Yes, life is tough, indeed character building, outside of the non GA oriented metropolis's of Australia.
Do you honestly believe that you are employable as a multi-engine instrument rated pilot straight out of the sausage factories?
Not really! please take a reality check and realise this company launches careers, and doesn't support paid ICUS as is so common in Vic.
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If companies can't afford to pay the award they should close shop. Before I joined GA I was an accountant for a large firm in Sydney and Melbourne so I must admit I do have a fair idea what makes a successful operator and what doesn't. What is clearly obvious to me is that 80% of the companies I have worked for would not survive in the real world. The only way they survive is in an artificial enviroment like GA where they don't pay the correct wage. Many GA companies are run so incompetently they survive by stealing employees wages and conditions.
The argument about companies starting many careers so it's ok to pay crap in my opinion is very tired and a load of b.s. It's a lot like Nike saying it is ok to pay foreign workers 60 cents an hour to make shoes and then beat their chests claiming " If it wasn't for us these people would starve"
Mainframe, in reply to your comments about Kmart, Coles-Myers etc your comments are quite incorrect.
All of these companies pay the award, superannuation, penalty rates, sick leave and pay for staff training. Think about it for a minute, the 15 year old kid nightfilling has better CoS then most guys flying aircraft in GA
I do agree with one point. And that is that some pilots may not be up to the task of operating an IFR charter straight from an IR course. However many accountants who joined the the firm I worked for staight from Uni were quite wet behind the ears also. These folk were simply given further training and taken under someones wing.
High wages and heaps of perks is certainly not sustainable in GA, however I don't believe it is too much to ask to pay the award. That is super, holiday pay and sick leave.
Aviation is a very sick industry in many aspects and I don't believe it will ever change. While there is people out there who are more than happy to work for extremely sub standard conditions it will remain as it is today. Third world standard.
If another 737 operator started up tomorrow paying 40k they would have people crawling over each other to get a gig, simply because it is a big improvement for many working in GA.
The argument about companies starting many careers so it's ok to pay crap in my opinion is very tired and a load of b.s. It's a lot like Nike saying it is ok to pay foreign workers 60 cents an hour to make shoes and then beat their chests claiming " If it wasn't for us these people would starve"
Mainframe, in reply to your comments about Kmart, Coles-Myers etc your comments are quite incorrect.
All of these companies pay the award, superannuation, penalty rates, sick leave and pay for staff training. Think about it for a minute, the 15 year old kid nightfilling has better CoS then most guys flying aircraft in GA
I do agree with one point. And that is that some pilots may not be up to the task of operating an IFR charter straight from an IR course. However many accountants who joined the the firm I worked for staight from Uni were quite wet behind the ears also. These folk were simply given further training and taken under someones wing.
High wages and heaps of perks is certainly not sustainable in GA, however I don't believe it is too much to ask to pay the award. That is super, holiday pay and sick leave.
Aviation is a very sick industry in many aspects and I don't believe it will ever change. While there is people out there who are more than happy to work for extremely sub standard conditions it will remain as it is today. Third world standard.
If another 737 operator started up tomorrow paying 40k they would have people crawling over each other to get a gig, simply because it is a big improvement for many working in GA.
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HERE HERE! Cunningham
What a load of rot it is to say a company should be able to pay crap just because you are out of ab intio training. (or low time)
Mainframe, you said
"I'm quite sure that these legal eagles would have taken action against Savannah if a supportable case existed"!
Probably not. Most GA companies AT THE MOMENT are not under any award. However this is VERY SLOWLY CHANGING. As is the case in the N.T.
McDonalds,, Kmart etc as you have given examples "MAINFRAME",
have work rules protection. Even someone pushing trollies at wollies has a base rate, overtime etc. "GA".
It will take a long while but companies such as this, will one day have to answer to some regulation.
As for the other things like dodgy time/flying/maitanaince/choirs for owners etc. Well WE ALL know that they only do this cos of the desperation of aspiring pilots who slog it out for years to get a cpl and just want to fly for a career. Again though, lets pretend thats it is right that they can do it. That part at least is good to see is being aired here. People should know about these things and these companies.
Just cause you are newly quaified doesnt mean you shouldnt get basic rights etc.
I dont personally know you mainframe, nor savannah no OZ, however like you I DO personally know many of there ex pilots. They are just as good of a pilot and people as I have met from other places however even they have told me many mixed stories. (i.e no hoilday pay, the Loo conditions and the IFR renewals which YOU pay)
No one here is questionsing the skills of the pilots just the organisation.
As "Woomera" said, it has been going on for many many years but we all know that it doesnt make it right for them to get away with it.
I give OZ Superman credit. He (and lets not be blind, quite a few others on this thread too) have given examples of the rubbish conditions and treatment from this company. As he/she said, weather someone accepts this is up too them but I also think It is good for people to here what they may/may not get themselves into. As Oz said, I guess research is the key and I concur after some things I have heard that ringing around may a very good idea.
What a load of rot it is to say a company should be able to pay crap just because you are out of ab intio training. (or low time)
Mainframe, you said
"I'm quite sure that these legal eagles would have taken action against Savannah if a supportable case existed"!
Probably not. Most GA companies AT THE MOMENT are not under any award. However this is VERY SLOWLY CHANGING. As is the case in the N.T.
McDonalds,, Kmart etc as you have given examples "MAINFRAME",
have work rules protection. Even someone pushing trollies at wollies has a base rate, overtime etc. "GA".
It will take a long while but companies such as this, will one day have to answer to some regulation.
As for the other things like dodgy time/flying/maitanaince/choirs for owners etc. Well WE ALL know that they only do this cos of the desperation of aspiring pilots who slog it out for years to get a cpl and just want to fly for a career. Again though, lets pretend thats it is right that they can do it. That part at least is good to see is being aired here. People should know about these things and these companies.
Just cause you are newly quaified doesnt mean you shouldnt get basic rights etc.
I dont personally know you mainframe, nor savannah no OZ, however like you I DO personally know many of there ex pilots. They are just as good of a pilot and people as I have met from other places however even they have told me many mixed stories. (i.e no hoilday pay, the Loo conditions and the IFR renewals which YOU pay)
No one here is questionsing the skills of the pilots just the organisation.
As "Woomera" said, it has been going on for many many years but we all know that it doesnt make it right for them to get away with it.
I give OZ Superman credit. He (and lets not be blind, quite a few others on this thread too) have given examples of the rubbish conditions and treatment from this company. As he/she said, weather someone accepts this is up too them but I also think It is good for people to here what they may/may not get themselves into. As Oz said, I guess research is the key and I concur after some things I have heard that ringing around may a very good idea.
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Let's face it, GA is about getting hours, not lifestyle.
Those who put up with the crap will gain the hours necessary to move on to the next step. Those who want security and good wages from day 1 should try another career, as aviation is obviously not for them.
Those who put up with the crap will gain the hours necessary to move on to the next step. Those who want security and good wages from day 1 should try another career, as aviation is obviously not for them.
Next Generation.....that attitude is exactly why nothing will change......most guys do ''plan'' on using GA for building hours, but sadly not everyone does make it to the well paid great job. Do you honestly believe that anyone wants to work at Kmart being a check out operator for 25 years....sometimes its all they can get, and at least even in that job you get all the benefits that higher paid jobs get...despite the lower pay rates.
GA should be able to provide pilots with at least wages and conditions compareable to say retail, where the workers there have no skill or training needed....IF GA operators cannot afford to pay this much(or little), you have to question if it's worth being in business.
It would be fine if we all knew for sure that if we do 2 hours in GA on crap money we'll all eventually get a job on 150K workin 50 hours a month....but it doesn't work like that, not everyone makes it...doesn't mean to say they should have to live in the poor house for the ''priviledge'' of flying.
GA should be able to provide pilots with at least wages and conditions compareable to say retail, where the workers there have no skill or training needed....IF GA operators cannot afford to pay this much(or little), you have to question if it's worth being in business.
It would be fine if we all knew for sure that if we do 2 hours in GA on crap money we'll all eventually get a job on 150K workin 50 hours a month....but it doesn't work like that, not everyone makes it...doesn't mean to say they should have to live in the poor house for the ''priviledge'' of flying.
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Well seeing as all you business management experts have all the answers, why don't you start your own GA companies, and take all the risks of employing new pilots, whilst you are easily affording to pay them well, and then after you have spent money training them, watch them piss off at the first opportunity they get. Show us all how it should be done.
None of you have the guts to undertake a risk of these proportions, yet you all seem to know what the operators should be doing.
Bloody pack of whingers. Enjoy GA, 'cos that's where you're gonna be for a friggin' long time.
Wake up!
None of you have the guts to undertake a risk of these proportions, yet you all seem to know what the operators should be doing.
Bloody pack of whingers. Enjoy GA, 'cos that's where you're gonna be for a friggin' long time.
Wake up!
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Arrrrr what a mature highly thought response from
"Next Generation".
I would suggest you are indeed very much OLD generation with your attitudes.
Infact every rational person here who has gone through GA, knows that with the attitude you have, it would suggest that quite possibly you yourself are either a "washed out never has been" (never got where you wanted so every one should suffer hey?) or infact maybe u are the proprietor of one of these shonky companies youself and are trying to remotely disguise and justify the reasons for your shonky work practices, mmmmmmm we all wonder?......Arrrr the joy of ananimity hey NG.
For the more civil minded people out there. I dont think any of us expect to get $100 000 for a GA job but what about standard basic conditions. The average aussie wage is now around $949 a week. Plus super, plus holiday pay. You work that out and its not that much. This company and most other GA mobs pay a lot less without the legal benefits. Even half that might be nice, but $300?
for full time single pilot IFR.
I think NG you will find many people have undertaken the so called risks that you speak of and come out ok, and then still think this sort of thing is wong. But again I think we all know where you are coming from. DEFENDER OF THE GA CONDITIONS!...Oh what a hero you are.!!!!!!
Once again. I encourage people to speak up about these companies, there experiences and tell of what really goes on.
This perception of, ....the shonky companies and there shonky ways should be kept under ground as its the only way to get your hours up." is the belief of only one party..........and thats the shonky companies themselves...!! (oh and NG too....LEEEOOOOSSSSSEEEERRRR!!!!!!_
"Next Generation".
I would suggest you are indeed very much OLD generation with your attitudes.
Infact every rational person here who has gone through GA, knows that with the attitude you have, it would suggest that quite possibly you yourself are either a "washed out never has been" (never got where you wanted so every one should suffer hey?) or infact maybe u are the proprietor of one of these shonky companies youself and are trying to remotely disguise and justify the reasons for your shonky work practices, mmmmmmm we all wonder?......Arrrr the joy of ananimity hey NG.
For the more civil minded people out there. I dont think any of us expect to get $100 000 for a GA job but what about standard basic conditions. The average aussie wage is now around $949 a week. Plus super, plus holiday pay. You work that out and its not that much. This company and most other GA mobs pay a lot less without the legal benefits. Even half that might be nice, but $300?
for full time single pilot IFR.
I think NG you will find many people have undertaken the so called risks that you speak of and come out ok, and then still think this sort of thing is wong. But again I think we all know where you are coming from. DEFENDER OF THE GA CONDITIONS!...Oh what a hero you are.!!!!!!
Once again. I encourage people to speak up about these companies, there experiences and tell of what really goes on.
This perception of, ....the shonky companies and there shonky ways should be kept under ground as its the only way to get your hours up." is the belief of only one party..........and thats the shonky companies themselves...!! (oh and NG too....LEEEOOOOSSSSSEEEERRRR!!!!!!_
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You done broke the code and summed up PPRuNe Prime Policy RedBeacon - nice one
Not sure how to phrase it? We'll adjust as nesc to get the maximum attention and the minimum of legal threats. That's our job and we're damned good at it.
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Once again. I encourage people to speak up about these companies, there experiences and tell of what really goes on.
This perception of, ....the shonky companies and there shonky ways should be kept under ground as its the only way to get your hours up." is the belief of only one party..........and thats the shonky companies themselves...!!
This perception of, ....the shonky companies and there shonky ways should be kept under ground as its the only way to get your hours up." is the belief of only one party..........and thats the shonky companies themselves...!!
Regards
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Well guys, I have watched, with mild amusement for some time this thread and I do wonder to myself,,,,, where the original poster of this thread has gone,
It would seem that every time someone actually asks a descent question or genuinely seeks advice, its an excuse for people to come out of the wood work and have a good old bitch, and yes if you have to scroll back a page because you don’t even remember what his/her username is then I've proved my point,
To be honest, if it were me I'd probably think you were all a pack of F**ken wingers and wish I had never asked the question in the first place.
hairy log book if you are genuinely interested in working for this company and your not just someone who has created a thread and several usernames to vent your dissatisfaction then call PP and make your own decisions, sorry to be blunt but in this industry you cant be to careful who you take advice from.
In my experience in GA and Airlines there are always bitter people in this industry and 90% of the bitter ones are still in GA winging about their pay.
Red beacon, you said, “This company and most other GA mobs pay a lot less”
2 things
1. If most other “GA Mobs” pay less then most of the bosses out there must be pricks right? Or could it be that it is a tough industry to survive in. Would you care to tell me what percentage of aviation business that do pay the “award” have financial backing from a parent company outside of aviation? It’s a great tax deduction you know.
2. Have you ever owned or operated anything above and beyond an orange juice stand???
And finally OZ Superman, enjoy your life in GA mate, the ignorant don’t listen and the wise already know.
It would seem that every time someone actually asks a descent question or genuinely seeks advice, its an excuse for people to come out of the wood work and have a good old bitch, and yes if you have to scroll back a page because you don’t even remember what his/her username is then I've proved my point,
To be honest, if it were me I'd probably think you were all a pack of F**ken wingers and wish I had never asked the question in the first place.
hairy log book if you are genuinely interested in working for this company and your not just someone who has created a thread and several usernames to vent your dissatisfaction then call PP and make your own decisions, sorry to be blunt but in this industry you cant be to careful who you take advice from.
In my experience in GA and Airlines there are always bitter people in this industry and 90% of the bitter ones are still in GA winging about their pay.
Red beacon, you said, “This company and most other GA mobs pay a lot less”
2 things
1. If most other “GA Mobs” pay less then most of the bosses out there must be pricks right? Or could it be that it is a tough industry to survive in. Would you care to tell me what percentage of aviation business that do pay the “award” have financial backing from a parent company outside of aviation? It’s a great tax deduction you know.
2. Have you ever owned or operated anything above and beyond an orange juice stand???
And finally OZ Superman, enjoy your life in GA mate, the ignorant don’t listen and the wise already know.
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You're working on this basis:
''Or could it be that it is a tough industry to survive in.''
We ask why should they survive without change. Looking at the state of some aircraft, operations and conditions we think that is an assumption too far. Since day one our reason for existing is to let pilots know about the shonks, worldwide, whatever the scale.
That's it, it is why we are here. You are welcome to start your own site for those who'd rather willy wave owning, crosshiring or leasing a shagged 30 year old relic.
Rob Lloyd
''Or could it be that it is a tough industry to survive in.''
We ask why should they survive without change. Looking at the state of some aircraft, operations and conditions we think that is an assumption too far. Since day one our reason for existing is to let pilots know about the shonks, worldwide, whatever the scale.
That's it, it is why we are here. You are welcome to start your own site for those who'd rather willy wave owning, crosshiring or leasing a shagged 30 year old relic.
Rob Lloyd
Leveler 77,
You are a tool in my humble opinion. One should not have to prostitute themselves in GA to get ahead and well you certainly sound like someone whom would get along great with PP.
Maybe the only amusing thing would be sitting down at the burketown pub listening to Mr PP carry on with you chirping in agreement in the background.
Mr Hairy Logbook has had his q answered quite thoroughly in this thread and would now know what to expect while working with this company.
As they say information is power and hopefully we have given some of that out to the masses.
cheers and safe flying
You are a tool in my humble opinion. One should not have to prostitute themselves in GA to get ahead and well you certainly sound like someone whom would get along great with PP.
Maybe the only amusing thing would be sitting down at the burketown pub listening to Mr PP carry on with you chirping in agreement in the background.
Mr Hairy Logbook has had his q answered quite thoroughly in this thread and would now know what to expect while working with this company.
As they say information is power and hopefully we have given some of that out to the masses.
cheers and safe flying
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For those who like to label many of the posters whingers, I offer you this suggestion.
Print off your reply and file it away for safe keeping.
Then one day when your daughter/son/wife/husband/grandson is in a similar position within the same or different industry you may offer your post as comfort to show how much you really care.
If your wife was say a secretary and the award was 32k,would you tolerate her getting paid 18k? Or would you too call her a F*$ken whinger.
I hope not.
Print off your reply and file it away for safe keeping.
Then one day when your daughter/son/wife/husband/grandson is in a similar position within the same or different industry you may offer your post as comfort to show how much you really care.
If your wife was say a secretary and the award was 32k,would you tolerate her getting paid 18k? Or would you too call her a F*$ken whinger.
I hope not.
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Abosolute bitch fest but many comments have merit.
I wonder if we can say that those willing to go out there, take that dead end job then move onto a job with descent pay have earnt the right to be here.
It is true what cunningham says about wife/son etc...... But i guess you could call this a way of keeping those who truly do not want to be here away from the rest of the industry. Nothing hurts me more then seeing people who dont want to be there getting jobs while others who are working their ass off for work and want to fly can't find anything.
But for those out there whinging.. dont be fooled... there are plenty of GA jobds out there that do pay the award. Its the hook that lands the pilot or how willing the pilot is to take the bate which does keep the prices down or forces operators to increse pay, charge more for charters and price the industry out of business.
well thats my two cents
I wonder if we can say that those willing to go out there, take that dead end job then move onto a job with descent pay have earnt the right to be here.
It is true what cunningham says about wife/son etc...... But i guess you could call this a way of keeping those who truly do not want to be here away from the rest of the industry. Nothing hurts me more then seeing people who dont want to be there getting jobs while others who are working their ass off for work and want to fly can't find anything.
But for those out there whinging.. dont be fooled... there are plenty of GA jobds out there that do pay the award. Its the hook that lands the pilot or how willing the pilot is to take the bate which does keep the prices down or forces operators to increse pay, charge more for charters and price the industry out of business.
well thats my two cents
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Oz Superman...
Having worked at Sav for a fair amount of time, I'd like to comment on a couple of your points.. Whilst some are pretty close to the mark, some weren't:
1. How many smaller GA companies that you know of pay for a Chieftain or Baron endorsement? Yet everyone seems happy to pay for it and fly for Virgin????
2. I never payed for a renewal when I was there.
3. "Get NO support..." Too many people just like to sit and whinge about things looking tough to other pilots, but never mention anything to the boss. Either withdraw your services (I have on a few occasions) or offer an alternative.
4. "The aircraft aren't flash from what I have heard and seen in pics." You saw them on the internet or something??? The best machines I've flown in GA, some paintjobs leave a lot to be desired.. but good machines mostly...
5. By all means ask the maintenance guys in ISA... but if you read ATSB reports and ask around some of their practices were the reasons both these wheels up landings occured.... An engineer had to be flown in from Perth to show these monkeys how to do the job.
By all means give people a heads up on what is happening in certain places, but don't get facts mixed up with quoting crap to make yourself sound good. Some of your stuff was true, but get it right before you shoot from the hip... Cheers
Having worked at Sav for a fair amount of time, I'd like to comment on a couple of your points.. Whilst some are pretty close to the mark, some weren't:
1. How many smaller GA companies that you know of pay for a Chieftain or Baron endorsement? Yet everyone seems happy to pay for it and fly for Virgin????
2. I never payed for a renewal when I was there.
3. "Get NO support..." Too many people just like to sit and whinge about things looking tough to other pilots, but never mention anything to the boss. Either withdraw your services (I have on a few occasions) or offer an alternative.
4. "The aircraft aren't flash from what I have heard and seen in pics." You saw them on the internet or something??? The best machines I've flown in GA, some paintjobs leave a lot to be desired.. but good machines mostly...
5. By all means ask the maintenance guys in ISA... but if you read ATSB reports and ask around some of their practices were the reasons both these wheels up landings occured.... An engineer had to be flown in from Perth to show these monkeys how to do the job.
By all means give people a heads up on what is happening in certain places, but don't get facts mixed up with quoting crap to make yourself sound good. Some of your stuff was true, but get it right before you shoot from the hip... Cheers
leveler77,
1. Yes most GA bosses (I've worked for or know) are pricks. But that's not really the point. Most of them are taking advantage of the pilot surplus, and making savings where there shouldn't be savings to be made. Whether this is to line their own pockets or enable them to pay for maintenance, to survive in this tough industry doesn't really matter. People like yourself leveler77, are happy to tell pilots if they don't like it, then leave. Shouldn't the same go for the "struggling" operators. If they can't survive without taking these shortcuts then p!ss off!
2. No I haven't. However most GA bosses (again I'm speaking of the ones I know) haven't run any other business either, and that's the problem. In no other industry would these abysmal conditions be tolerated, and I would happy to wager that most of these so-called businesspeople would survive in the real world.
grrowler
1. Yes most GA bosses (I've worked for or know) are pricks. But that's not really the point. Most of them are taking advantage of the pilot surplus, and making savings where there shouldn't be savings to be made. Whether this is to line their own pockets or enable them to pay for maintenance, to survive in this tough industry doesn't really matter. People like yourself leveler77, are happy to tell pilots if they don't like it, then leave. Shouldn't the same go for the "struggling" operators. If they can't survive without taking these shortcuts then p!ss off!
2. No I haven't. However most GA bosses (again I'm speaking of the ones I know) haven't run any other business either, and that's the problem. In no other industry would these abysmal conditions be tolerated, and I would happy to wager that most of these so-called businesspeople would survive in the real world.
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"stickwithit".....says!
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I am sure the engineers in MT ISA would have a much different story to yours and I am also sure that with these comments you have made, you have now encouraged them to give a VERY honest insight about this company if/when anyone now calls to find out info...............so well done!
Why? bring an engineer from perth when there are numerous
maitainance companies in the surrounding areas! (TVL, MA, CS, or even DW or BN)....MMMMmmmmm I wonder?
I can tell people a couple of things here:
You DO pay for renewals here! (ask ex and current pilots)
You dont get holiday pay even though you are fulltime.
If this company has nothing hide, they should encourage
people to talk to ex-pilots, surrounding companies and associated people.
Where there is smoke there is fire!
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"...........An engineer had to be flown in from Perth to show these monkeys how to do the job."
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I am sure the engineers in MT ISA would have a much different story to yours and I am also sure that with these comments you have made, you have now encouraged them to give a VERY honest insight about this company if/when anyone now calls to find out info...............so well done!
Why? bring an engineer from perth when there are numerous
maitainance companies in the surrounding areas! (TVL, MA, CS, or even DW or BN)....MMMMmmmmm I wonder?
I can tell people a couple of things here:
You DO pay for renewals here! (ask ex and current pilots)
You dont get holiday pay even though you are fulltime.
If this company has nothing hide, they should encourage
people to talk to ex-pilots, surrounding companies and associated people.
Where there is smoke there is fire!
SAVANNAH AVIATION
Nineteen months on from the foregoing contributions . . . . the outfit featured, criticised and praised is going strong. . . .and advertised for pilots in THE OZ a couple of weeks ago. My interest is to know whether any recent employees of SA are able to post an update on how it is for them.
Pretty quiet...... then again those toads are quite noisy in bkt.
As advised above, if your still interested (if they want you)enquire, try it out. Stay if you like, go if you don't.......
As advised above, if your still interested (if they want you)enquire, try it out. Stay if you like, go if you don't.......
Last edited by DUXNUTZ; 31st Dec 2005 at 02:54.
