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highbypasss your absence is notable. It's starting to look like this was a windup after all.
Got anything to say or still out soul-searching like Homer Simpson in the "Chilli/talking dog" episode?
Got anything to say or still out soul-searching like Homer Simpson in the "Chilli/talking dog" episode?
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The Grass is always Greener
This may or may not be a wind up, but the following probably describes aviation and pilot's in its glory.
THE FULL CIRCLE
One fine hot Summer’s afternoon saw a Cessna 150 flying circuits at a quiet country airfield. The Instructor was getting quite bothered with the student’s inability to hold circuit height in the thermals and was getting impatient at sometimes having to take over the controls. Just then he saw a twin engine Cessna 5,000ft above him and thought "Another 1,000 hrs of this and I qualify for that twin charter job! Aaahh.. to be a real pilot.. going somewhere!"
The Cessna 402 was already late and the boss told him this charter was for one of the Company’s premier clients. He’d already set MCT and the cylinders didn’t like it in the heat of this Summer’s day. He was at 6,000ft and the winds were now a 20kt headwind. Today was the 6th day straight and he was pretty damn tired. Maybe if he got 10,000ft out of them the wind might die off... geez those cylinder temps! He looked out momentarily and saw a B737 leaving a contrail at 33,000ft in the serene blue sky. "Oh man" he thought, "My interview is next month. I hope I just don’t blow it! Outa G/A, nice jet job, above the weather... no snotty passengers to wait for.. aahhh."
The Boeing 737 bucked and weaved in the heavy CAT at FL330 and ATC advised that lower levels were not available due traffic. The Captain, who was only recently advised that his destination was below RVR minimums had slowed to LRC to try and hold off a possible inflight diversion, and arrange an ETA that would helpfully ensure the fog had lifted to CATII minima. The Company negotiations broke down yesterday and looked as if everyone was going to take a damn pay cut. The F/O’s will be particularly hard hit as their pay wasn’t anything to speak of anyway. Finally deciding on a speed compromise between LRC and turbulence penetration, the Captain looked up and saw Concorde at Mach 2+. Tapping his F/O’s shoulder as the 737 took another bashing, he said "Now THAT’S what we should be on... huge pay packet... super fast... not too many routes... not too many sectors... above the CAT... yep! What a life...!"
FL590 was not what he wanted anyway and considered FL570. Already the TAT was creeping up again and either they would have to descend or slow down. That damn rear fuel transfer pump was becoming unreliable and the F/E had said moments ago that the radiation meter was not reading numbers that he’d like to see. Concorde descended to FL570 but the radiation was still quite high even though the Notam indicated hunky dory below FL610. Fuel flow was up and the transfer pump was intermittent. Evening turned into night as they passed over the Atlantic. Looking up, the F/O could see a tiny white dot moving against the backdrop of a myriad of stars. "Hey Captain" he called as he pointed. "Must be the Shuttle. "The Captain looked for a moment and agreed. Quietly he thought how a Shuttle mission, whilst complicated, must be the be all and end all in aviation. Above the crap, no radiation problems, no damn fuel transfer problems... aaah. Must be a great way to earn a quid."
Discovery was into its 27th orbit and perigee was 200ft out from nominated rendezvous altitude with the commsat. The robot arm was virtually U/S and a walk may become necessary. The 200ft predicted error would necessitate a corrective burn and Discovery needed that fuel if a walk was to be required. Houston continually asked what the Commander wanted to do but the advice they proffered wasn’t much help. The Commander had already been 12 hours on station sorting out the problem and just wanted 10 bloody minutes to himself to take a leak. Just then a mission specialist, who had tilted the telescope down to the surface for a minute or two, called the Commander to the scope. "Have a look at this Sir, isn’t this the kinda flying you said you wanted to do after you finish up with NASA?" The Commander peered through the telescope and cried "Ooooohhhhh yeah! Now THAT’S flying! Man, that’s what its all about! Geez I’d give my left nut just to be doing THAT down there!"
What the Discovery Commander was looking at was a Cessna 150 flying circuits at a quiet country airfield on a nice bright sunny afternoon.
Nipper - out
THE FULL CIRCLE
One fine hot Summer’s afternoon saw a Cessna 150 flying circuits at a quiet country airfield. The Instructor was getting quite bothered with the student’s inability to hold circuit height in the thermals and was getting impatient at sometimes having to take over the controls. Just then he saw a twin engine Cessna 5,000ft above him and thought "Another 1,000 hrs of this and I qualify for that twin charter job! Aaahh.. to be a real pilot.. going somewhere!"
The Cessna 402 was already late and the boss told him this charter was for one of the Company’s premier clients. He’d already set MCT and the cylinders didn’t like it in the heat of this Summer’s day. He was at 6,000ft and the winds were now a 20kt headwind. Today was the 6th day straight and he was pretty damn tired. Maybe if he got 10,000ft out of them the wind might die off... geez those cylinder temps! He looked out momentarily and saw a B737 leaving a contrail at 33,000ft in the serene blue sky. "Oh man" he thought, "My interview is next month. I hope I just don’t blow it! Outa G/A, nice jet job, above the weather... no snotty passengers to wait for.. aahhh."
The Boeing 737 bucked and weaved in the heavy CAT at FL330 and ATC advised that lower levels were not available due traffic. The Captain, who was only recently advised that his destination was below RVR minimums had slowed to LRC to try and hold off a possible inflight diversion, and arrange an ETA that would helpfully ensure the fog had lifted to CATII minima. The Company negotiations broke down yesterday and looked as if everyone was going to take a damn pay cut. The F/O’s will be particularly hard hit as their pay wasn’t anything to speak of anyway. Finally deciding on a speed compromise between LRC and turbulence penetration, the Captain looked up and saw Concorde at Mach 2+. Tapping his F/O’s shoulder as the 737 took another bashing, he said "Now THAT’S what we should be on... huge pay packet... super fast... not too many routes... not too many sectors... above the CAT... yep! What a life...!"
FL590 was not what he wanted anyway and considered FL570. Already the TAT was creeping up again and either they would have to descend or slow down. That damn rear fuel transfer pump was becoming unreliable and the F/E had said moments ago that the radiation meter was not reading numbers that he’d like to see. Concorde descended to FL570 but the radiation was still quite high even though the Notam indicated hunky dory below FL610. Fuel flow was up and the transfer pump was intermittent. Evening turned into night as they passed over the Atlantic. Looking up, the F/O could see a tiny white dot moving against the backdrop of a myriad of stars. "Hey Captain" he called as he pointed. "Must be the Shuttle. "The Captain looked for a moment and agreed. Quietly he thought how a Shuttle mission, whilst complicated, must be the be all and end all in aviation. Above the crap, no radiation problems, no damn fuel transfer problems... aaah. Must be a great way to earn a quid."
Discovery was into its 27th orbit and perigee was 200ft out from nominated rendezvous altitude with the commsat. The robot arm was virtually U/S and a walk may become necessary. The 200ft predicted error would necessitate a corrective burn and Discovery needed that fuel if a walk was to be required. Houston continually asked what the Commander wanted to do but the advice they proffered wasn’t much help. The Commander had already been 12 hours on station sorting out the problem and just wanted 10 bloody minutes to himself to take a leak. Just then a mission specialist, who had tilted the telescope down to the surface for a minute or two, called the Commander to the scope. "Have a look at this Sir, isn’t this the kinda flying you said you wanted to do after you finish up with NASA?" The Commander peered through the telescope and cried "Ooooohhhhh yeah! Now THAT’S flying! Man, that’s what its all about! Geez I’d give my left nut just to be doing THAT down there!"
What the Discovery Commander was looking at was a Cessna 150 flying circuits at a quiet country airfield on a nice bright sunny afternoon.
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Highbypass, toss the job, go to PNG, hang out with the north coast boys in Lae for a week, don't be shy at the post office or putting on the p1ss. In two years time you'll have 1800 hrs multi and hate the islander with the same passion you hate instructing but be a whole lot closer to where you want to be. Crossing the pacific in a heavy is not that much fun. The time off in between is.
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Geez guys!
A hell of a lot of assumptions floating around here. I'm pretty certain I know HyBy, and a lot of the assumtions are soooo far off the mark it's not funny.
Facts:
HB is a consumate professional, and the attitude that you elude to is not at all evident any time I've seen him. A quick conversation with any of you would verify that.
HB lives nowhere near ANY captial city, despite his hometown being just that. The impression I get is that he craves nothing more than to go home, but we all know that what you want isn't always what you get. He left the aforementioned hometown to try and get the next bit after already having a bit of instructing under his belt, and it hasn't quite worked out as he envisaged.
HB has been 'pigeonholed' like a lot of instructors, by his current employer. He had the rating, and is actually an awesome and enthusiastic teacher, and his current employer saw this. I have full belief that the students are getting every cent in the dollars worth of value with HB. There are certain companys you don't want to have certain endorsements, lest they stick you on whatever the dogbox of the fleet happens to be, so too in other companies there are a bunch of pilots, but only one instructor.
HB is no different to the school teacher who does a fantastic job day-in, day-out, the one who all the school kids love. If that teacher walks into the private staff room at lunch, and puts out a cry for advice on the basis that they're getting weary in a big way, then they usually get at least a little sympathy, if not some constructive advice. This does happen, and I'll accept no self-justifying aguments to the contrary, I've seen it. All the poor guy got here was a good ripping by a pack of hyenas, nice work everybody.
A hell of a lot of assumptions floating around here. I'm pretty certain I know HyBy, and a lot of the assumtions are soooo far off the mark it's not funny.
Facts:
HB is a consumate professional, and the attitude that you elude to is not at all evident any time I've seen him. A quick conversation with any of you would verify that.
HB lives nowhere near ANY captial city, despite his hometown being just that. The impression I get is that he craves nothing more than to go home, but we all know that what you want isn't always what you get. He left the aforementioned hometown to try and get the next bit after already having a bit of instructing under his belt, and it hasn't quite worked out as he envisaged.
HB has been 'pigeonholed' like a lot of instructors, by his current employer. He had the rating, and is actually an awesome and enthusiastic teacher, and his current employer saw this. I have full belief that the students are getting every cent in the dollars worth of value with HB. There are certain companys you don't want to have certain endorsements, lest they stick you on whatever the dogbox of the fleet happens to be, so too in other companies there are a bunch of pilots, but only one instructor.
HB is no different to the school teacher who does a fantastic job day-in, day-out, the one who all the school kids love. If that teacher walks into the private staff room at lunch, and puts out a cry for advice on the basis that they're getting weary in a big way, then they usually get at least a little sympathy, if not some constructive advice. This does happen, and I'll accept no self-justifying aguments to the contrary, I've seen it. All the poor guy got here was a good ripping by a pack of hyenas, nice work everybody.
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Highbypass, When you get that charter job.
I just feel sorry for the poor bastard charter pilot you will have to do 50 hrs ICUS with. As that is about how long it will take to get 1000 hrs of instructor mentality cr@p outa your head, and start turning you into a pilot. So the sooner you leave what you are doing and move along, all the better.
Have you tried Sharpe Aviation?
Have you tried Sharpe Aviation?
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It sounds to me like lackov is saying that we're not entitled to have an opinion that is opposite to his. We are not entitled to call things as we see them. Maybe I'm missing something here but, just in case, maybe I should offer some form of public apology.
Well, I for one am very sorry to have expressed an opinion that is contrary to yours. Sorry also that I could only base my post on the information provided in the initiating post - and in absense of any further clarification.
I'm really terribly sorry that I didn't know any of the information that you have so thoughtfully provided. But, more than anything else, I'm sorry to say that there's no way that I'll change any of my comments. Nor do I intend to offer any of the sympathy that you seem to feel that your alter-ego deserves.
Well, I for one am very sorry to have expressed an opinion that is contrary to yours. Sorry also that I could only base my post on the information provided in the initiating post - and in absense of any further clarification.
I'm really terribly sorry that I didn't know any of the information that you have so thoughtfully provided. But, more than anything else, I'm sorry to say that there's no way that I'll change any of my comments. Nor do I intend to offer any of the sympathy that you seem to feel that your alter-ego deserves.
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Good to see the ole PPrUNE attitude is alive and well among you all out in Internet land.. bag the poor b@stard for being honest..
good on ya all
I suspect it's probably something like this..
95% of men are w@nk**s.. the other 5% are liars...
95% of instructors probably have felt at some point, the way highbypass feels.. the other 5% are liars...
doesn't mean that they're all bad instructors for being honest..
good on ya all
I suspect it's probably something like this..
95% of men are w@nk**s.. the other 5% are liars...
95% of instructors probably have felt at some point, the way highbypass feels.. the other 5% are liars...
doesn't mean that they're all bad instructors for being honest..
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It's not often that I truly get the ****s about something to the point of this type of reply, but congrats oz-expat, you've joined the privileged few. To say that reading your response was disappointing would be an understatement. I've not often read a shallower perspective than your response to my post, regardless of the sentiment contained in your original.
You claim that I, in some way, believe against a freedom of opinion and expression. At the very least explain this (somewhat warped) view. All I did was provide a few facts (and they ARE facts!) for those of you who may not have had them, and resultantly went off half cocked on some idelogical, nevertheless flawed, rampage. If providing information to an argument is an example of inhibiting an opinion, well, you've got me beat......
I don't know you from a bar of soap, and neither do I care to after your post, but you've given a vitriolic example of why there's no unity in G.A.
Besides, my comments were aimed at those insistant on playing the man, rather than the ball.
If you believe in your view then by all means express it. I'd be dissappointed if you didn't, but judging by your response I'd hazard that it's more you that got stroppy when challenged. Wouldn't you think?
Shame.
As for the quip about alter egos, nothing could be further from the truth. I've never been an instructor, at least not the aeroplane type. My career, and indeed life is pretty damn different from HBs to say the least. The irony of the whole thing though is that the reason I know him is pure chance, as a result of an act of absolute kindness to an (at the time) absolute stranger when I sure as hell needed some help. This is why I stick up for my mates, as you have seen. What do you define as a mate?
BTW, Nipper, I meant to say in the last post. Really nicely put! Thats the magic of aviation summed up in a page!
You claim that I, in some way, believe against a freedom of opinion and expression. At the very least explain this (somewhat warped) view. All I did was provide a few facts (and they ARE facts!) for those of you who may not have had them, and resultantly went off half cocked on some idelogical, nevertheless flawed, rampage. If providing information to an argument is an example of inhibiting an opinion, well, you've got me beat......
I don't know you from a bar of soap, and neither do I care to after your post, but you've given a vitriolic example of why there's no unity in G.A.
Besides, my comments were aimed at those insistant on playing the man, rather than the ball.
If you believe in your view then by all means express it. I'd be dissappointed if you didn't, but judging by your response I'd hazard that it's more you that got stroppy when challenged. Wouldn't you think?
Shame.
As for the quip about alter egos, nothing could be further from the truth. I've never been an instructor, at least not the aeroplane type. My career, and indeed life is pretty damn different from HBs to say the least. The irony of the whole thing though is that the reason I know him is pure chance, as a result of an act of absolute kindness to an (at the time) absolute stranger when I sure as hell needed some help. This is why I stick up for my mates, as you have seen. What do you define as a mate?
BTW, Nipper, I meant to say in the last post. Really nicely put! Thats the magic of aviation summed up in a page!
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Some clarification.
Hi to everyone.
1. This is NOT a wind up.
2. lackov is a very good friend of mine who knows me well. Thanks for your support mate.
3. When I included that I put in 110% for my students, I MEAN'T IT.
4. I am still in constant contact with MANY students that I have taught in the past. SMS, e-mail, telephone; I love to hear that they've either broken into the comercial "game" or that they simply enjoy private flying. Fly away's, club competitions, all the great things that flying clubs have to offer. And it's all because they had the passion and desire, and I had the patience, skill and enthusiasm.
5. Spinnerhead You're not an instructor. That's a given. And, no offence intended mate, but I'll be willing to fly off ANYONE. I don't consider myself as only a PILOT. In my opinion a PILOT is someone who "sits" in an aircraft. I am ALSO a "FLYER". There are times when being a PILOT is apropriate, and there are times when you must be a FLYER. A FLYER straps the aircraft to him/herself and they become part of the aircraft. They become one unit. ANYTHING that the aircraft does, bad or good, is the fault of the flyer. A few years ago I started a thread about the skills and abilities of instructors v's charter/bush pilots. I now have almost 800 hours experience as a bush pilot in multi's, singles, turbos, high wing, low wing, lycomings, continentals, mine runs, mail runs, heaps and heaps of short, dry, bumpy, narrow strips, instructing ab-initio and nav, bright students, challenging students, extreamly smelly students....(have I left anything out?), and I can honestly say this. When I moved here, away from home, I could mix it with anyone IMEDIATELY, even back then. My new boss was very impressed with my company check flight. I atribute this to the skills I developed as an instructor. If you can strap anything from a 172, to a Navajo to your back, fly a manoeuvre RIGHT ON THE NUMBERS, AND accurately describe every step of the manoeuvre, then i'll listen to you. And just to further clarify, I DO NOT THINK THAT ANY TYPE OF WORK NECESSARILY MAKES A BETTER PILOT/FLYER THAN ANOTHER. LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR!!! I just don't apreciate people who have never instructed before, telling me that I am not a "real pilot". However, regardless of your overall experience itchybum, OzExpat, Ace on Base, HEALY, and anyone else with a similar opinion, you have missed the point totally.
In my original post, I did not mention the word "sympathy" at all. That's not what i'm after. I have simply reached a point in my CHOSEN career when I feel I need some advice to help me get through a dificult period. I will provide no less a service to my students than I brought with me as a fresh and enthusiastic junior grade 3. I get on very well with all my current students. They have the choice to fly with other instructors when i'm not available, but CHOOSE to fly with me. This is BY NO MEANS having a dig at the other instructors. I guess it just proves that they don't have a problem with me as their instructor.
getmeoutovga, and all with similar posts and opinions. I thank you for understanding. In fact, you said it in far fewer words than i've used here, but far better ( I must admit). Your second parragraph is absolutely spot on. Thanks.
1. This is NOT a wind up.
2. lackov is a very good friend of mine who knows me well. Thanks for your support mate.
3. When I included that I put in 110% for my students, I MEAN'T IT.
4. I am still in constant contact with MANY students that I have taught in the past. SMS, e-mail, telephone; I love to hear that they've either broken into the comercial "game" or that they simply enjoy private flying. Fly away's, club competitions, all the great things that flying clubs have to offer. And it's all because they had the passion and desire, and I had the patience, skill and enthusiasm.
5. Spinnerhead You're not an instructor. That's a given. And, no offence intended mate, but I'll be willing to fly off ANYONE. I don't consider myself as only a PILOT. In my opinion a PILOT is someone who "sits" in an aircraft. I am ALSO a "FLYER". There are times when being a PILOT is apropriate, and there are times when you must be a FLYER. A FLYER straps the aircraft to him/herself and they become part of the aircraft. They become one unit. ANYTHING that the aircraft does, bad or good, is the fault of the flyer. A few years ago I started a thread about the skills and abilities of instructors v's charter/bush pilots. I now have almost 800 hours experience as a bush pilot in multi's, singles, turbos, high wing, low wing, lycomings, continentals, mine runs, mail runs, heaps and heaps of short, dry, bumpy, narrow strips, instructing ab-initio and nav, bright students, challenging students, extreamly smelly students....(have I left anything out?), and I can honestly say this. When I moved here, away from home, I could mix it with anyone IMEDIATELY, even back then. My new boss was very impressed with my company check flight. I atribute this to the skills I developed as an instructor. If you can strap anything from a 172, to a Navajo to your back, fly a manoeuvre RIGHT ON THE NUMBERS, AND accurately describe every step of the manoeuvre, then i'll listen to you. And just to further clarify, I DO NOT THINK THAT ANY TYPE OF WORK NECESSARILY MAKES A BETTER PILOT/FLYER THAN ANOTHER. LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR!!! I just don't apreciate people who have never instructed before, telling me that I am not a "real pilot". However, regardless of your overall experience itchybum, OzExpat, Ace on Base, HEALY, and anyone else with a similar opinion, you have missed the point totally.
In my original post, I did not mention the word "sympathy" at all. That's not what i'm after. I have simply reached a point in my CHOSEN career when I feel I need some advice to help me get through a dificult period. I will provide no less a service to my students than I brought with me as a fresh and enthusiastic junior grade 3. I get on very well with all my current students. They have the choice to fly with other instructors when i'm not available, but CHOOSE to fly with me. This is BY NO MEANS having a dig at the other instructors. I guess it just proves that they don't have a problem with me as their instructor.
getmeoutovga, and all with similar posts and opinions. I thank you for understanding. In fact, you said it in far fewer words than i've used here, but far better ( I must admit). Your second parragraph is absolutely spot on. Thanks.
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HB,
Nicely put........ Bl@@dy shame it didnt come across that way in the beginning though!!
You cant place the blame for the responses that were posted, and as it took so long for you to defend your thread - it seemed obvious that it was a wind up!
Mate, I hope things take a turn in your favour, and you dont loose the plot to the extent that it sounds like your having a winge bigtime. If you need support / Ideas / Refreshing / etc., Just consider the wording of your thread before letting your fingers doing the talking! (FIGBIN - Fingers in gear, Brain in neutral) - I know cause I was creamed a number of years ago with a disgrunted comment.
Nicely put........ Bl@@dy shame it didnt come across that way in the beginning though!!
You cant place the blame for the responses that were posted, and as it took so long for you to defend your thread - it seemed obvious that it was a wind up!
Mate, I hope things take a turn in your favour, and you dont loose the plot to the extent that it sounds like your having a winge bigtime. If you need support / Ideas / Refreshing / etc., Just consider the wording of your thread before letting your fingers doing the talking! (FIGBIN - Fingers in gear, Brain in neutral) - I know cause I was creamed a number of years ago with a disgrunted comment.
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_the gravy™ stroke
hmmm... lackov posts and highbypasss replies in less then an hour after prolonged absence. Gravy™ smells a rat and it ain't the big red one.
ozexpat???
Anyway shame on you highbypasss for seeking comfort and wisdom on pprune DG GA questions. Your in the wrong place if your looking for a group hug and teary round of "Kumbayah"...
signed,
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ozexpat???
Anyway shame on you highbypasss for seeking comfort and wisdom on pprune DG GA questions. Your in the wrong place if your looking for a group hug and teary round of "Kumbayah"...
signed,
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Okay Mr Gravy. I'll bite.
On the evening of the 6th, I decided to post my original post for some advice. I however was confronted with negativity (only about 6 replies by then). I was at a loss as to how to reply to these people, so I slept on it. The next few days were very busy at work. Getting home at night I only had the energy to check e-mails and go to bed for another early start. Then on the evening of the 9th I was doing the same when lakov popped up on ICQ and asked if I'd seen his reply to my post. I immediately checked it out and was pleasantly surprised to see his, and other peoples more positive posts....especially his. I then thought i'd better respond and clarify, and also express my apreciation to those who offered constructive critisism.
By the way. If people realy DO think that lakov and myself are one and the same....well....i'm truely honored. lakov expresses himself in a way that I can only aspire to. I just love his "take not ****" tone. It got him through GA and he's still going!!! AMAZING!!!
............................................................ .H.
On the evening of the 6th, I decided to post my original post for some advice. I however was confronted with negativity (only about 6 replies by then). I was at a loss as to how to reply to these people, so I slept on it. The next few days were very busy at work. Getting home at night I only had the energy to check e-mails and go to bed for another early start. Then on the evening of the 9th I was doing the same when lakov popped up on ICQ and asked if I'd seen his reply to my post. I immediately checked it out and was pleasantly surprised to see his, and other peoples more positive posts....especially his. I then thought i'd better respond and clarify, and also express my apreciation to those who offered constructive critisism.
By the way. If people realy DO think that lakov and myself are one and the same....well....i'm truely honored. lakov expresses himself in a way that I can only aspire to. I just love his "take not ****" tone. It got him through GA and he's still going!!! AMAZING!!!
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HBP
Now I don't know you bloke, and you might be a real good fella, I would probably even enjoy drinking beer with you, BUT. Your comments are so typical of so many instructors who claim they can do this that and the other sooo much better than anyone else, that one can only assume the worst.
Now I don't know you bloke, and you might be a real good fella, I would probably even enjoy drinking beer with you, BUT. Your comments are so typical of so many instructors who claim they can do this that and the other sooo much better than anyone else, that one can only assume the worst.
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Spinnerhead
I know the guy
like him and enjoy a beer with him although been >4 yrs since last.
OK he stuffed his first post on this thread,
Who ^%$$& cares if it really is a wind up,(I think not!)
Question ...how many have been in a job and dreamed of better, or have a higher goal?
Answer... my guess is every one.
HBP would be doing his absolute best in his present position, but he has just proved himself human by 1. dreaming of better and 2. incorrectly verbalising what he probably intended.
HBP...hope to have another beer with you one day soon. My advice... well ...it's just a hole in the road. get over it or around it, the other side is smoother.
cheers
I know the guy
like him and enjoy a beer with him although been >4 yrs since last.
OK he stuffed his first post on this thread,
Who ^%$$& cares if it really is a wind up,(I think not!)
Question ...how many have been in a job and dreamed of better, or have a higher goal?
Answer... my guess is every one.
HBP would be doing his absolute best in his present position, but he has just proved himself human by 1. dreaming of better and 2. incorrectly verbalising what he probably intended.
HBP...hope to have another beer with you one day soon. My advice... well ...it's just a hole in the road. get over it or around it, the other side is smoother.
cheers
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Okay, so Highbypasss and lackov are not the same person. Fine. I can live with that.
Just now, I went back and re-read the initial post. It still seems, to me at least, to have been pretty specific, with enough detail to convince me that my initial reaction wasn't over the top. I have no intention of defending myself because I don't feel the need to do so.
However, if you care to re-read my initial post, HB, I think that you'll find that I provided "advice on how to cope with the frustration and teduim until I get a REAL job" (I'm sure that you'll recall those words). But, hey, feel free to read whatever you like into it.
Just now, I went back and re-read the initial post. It still seems, to me at least, to have been pretty specific, with enough detail to convince me that my initial reaction wasn't over the top. I have no intention of defending myself because I don't feel the need to do so.
However, if you care to re-read my initial post, HB, I think that you'll find that I provided "advice on how to cope with the frustration and teduim until I get a REAL job" (I'm sure that you'll recall those words). But, hey, feel free to read whatever you like into it.
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MAX!!! Great to hear from you, mate!!! As usual, spoken (or typed) like a true legend. You're right. It has been WAY TOO LONG!!! WAY....TOO...LONG, between drinks and BBQ's. I hope it can be real soon. Actually, I almost had a charter up your way recently. It got cancelled when the numbers swelled to 50. I think they took a couple of Bras' in the end.
Spinnerhead. I reciprocate all that you said. I don't know you either, and i'm sure you too might be a real good fella. I would probably enjoy having a drink with you too. However, your comments too are so typical of someone who ISN'T an instructor. If you go back and read my second post (the real long one) and read
If I was to re-type this specifically for you, it would read like this,
"I DO NOT THINK THAT INSTRUCTORS ARE BETTER PILOTS/FLYERS THAN NON INSTRUCTORS, AND I EQUALLY DON'T THINK THAT NON INSTRUCTORS ARE BETTER PILOTS/FLYERS THAN INSTRUCTORS." I can't make this any clearer. I really believe this. It's just that I seem to hear alot of non-instructors, (or low time instructors who have given up and gone bush) trying to tell me that instructors are low quality FLYERS. ie. not good at handleing aircraft. This is simply NOT TRUE. Each one of us has individual skills. Some of us can land short field beter than others. Some can fly I.F. better than others. Some are more fluent with regs than others. This may have something to do with the fact that you are a night freight pilot, or bank runs, milk runs, mail runs...whatever. But from my experience, whether you are an instructor or not has nothing to do with it. I know an equal amount of people with instructor ratings as I do without. They are all INDIVIDUALS.
You may have come across instructors who think that they are better. I CERTAINLY HAVE. I was instructed by a few who have their heads firmly wedged up their....well....I hated them at the time, and still do. But i'm sort of glad I ran into them. They made me realise what an instructor SHOULDN'T be like.
.......I dont' know any other way to put it........I just ask this. Don't bag instructors' abilities just because they're instructors. I hope all you NT operators are reading this........................................(hear we go.............: )
...................................................H.
Spinnerhead. I reciprocate all that you said. I don't know you either, and i'm sure you too might be a real good fella. I would probably enjoy having a drink with you too. However, your comments too are so typical of someone who ISN'T an instructor. If you go back and read my second post (the real long one) and read
And just to further clarify, I DO NOT THINK THAT ANY TYPE OF WORK NECESSARILY MAKES A BETTER PILOT/FLYER THAN ANOTHER. LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR!!! I just don't apreciate people who have never instructed before, telling me that I am not a "real pilot".
"I DO NOT THINK THAT INSTRUCTORS ARE BETTER PILOTS/FLYERS THAN NON INSTRUCTORS, AND I EQUALLY DON'T THINK THAT NON INSTRUCTORS ARE BETTER PILOTS/FLYERS THAN INSTRUCTORS." I can't make this any clearer. I really believe this. It's just that I seem to hear alot of non-instructors, (or low time instructors who have given up and gone bush) trying to tell me that instructors are low quality FLYERS. ie. not good at handleing aircraft. This is simply NOT TRUE. Each one of us has individual skills. Some of us can land short field beter than others. Some can fly I.F. better than others. Some are more fluent with regs than others. This may have something to do with the fact that you are a night freight pilot, or bank runs, milk runs, mail runs...whatever. But from my experience, whether you are an instructor or not has nothing to do with it. I know an equal amount of people with instructor ratings as I do without. They are all INDIVIDUALS.
You may have come across instructors who think that they are better. I CERTAINLY HAVE. I was instructed by a few who have their heads firmly wedged up their....well....I hated them at the time, and still do. But i'm sort of glad I ran into them. They made me realise what an instructor SHOULDN'T be like.
.......I dont' know any other way to put it........I just ask this. Don't bag instructors' abilities just because they're instructors. I hope all you NT operators are reading this........................................(hear we go.............:
)...................................................H.
