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Old 12th Mar 2008, 18:14
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SK-pilot, thank you for the info.

That is the first PPRuNe post I´ve ever read about SAS salary here. Before it has only been talk about the lower starting salary compare to before (7 steps was mentioned?). Is that the same figures for all three countries?

But care to explain this about Regional Aircraft deal? Do you mean that you then start on F50? Or is the 737-600 considered a Regional Aircraft? Remember reading something about that in Flight International ages ago regarding SAS and the pilots negotiations.

If that is the case, do you only fly the -600 and not -400/700/800?

I´m a bit pussled since, to my opinon, SAS only have the F50 to be considered a Regional Aircraft since the Dash8 is gone, and it was only a part of the DK/SE operation. I assume that in DK though there will be Regional Aircraft with the CRJ9 arriving though.

Well anyway, thanks for the info. I guess there were a lot more pilots than me wanting to see the new numbers. Spill the beans!

TFM
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 10:39
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Well, there are actually no regional payscale in SAS. You start at at same scale whether you start on the F50 or A321 - the only difference is that if you fly a regional AC, you stop at sertain steps on the scale (I think it was ltr 8 as FP and ltr 18 as FC). Regional AC are defined as 100 seats or less, and not the same AC type as mainline.

The salary is much the same between countries, and varies mainly due to the currencies; i.e. DK on top, then NO, and the weak SV kroner on the bottom.

In Norway the regional segment consist of 5 F50 and 2 AVRO. In Denmark (where there also is appr 30 norwegians) the ex Q400 pilots until further fly 4 CRJ200 (Cimber) and 3 AVRO (Atlantic), waiting for the CRJ900 to arrive. The last 30 pilots from the Q400 will start directly on the CRJ900 with training starting late april (will fly CRJ900 for Lufthansa until CRJ900 arrives in SAS), and som pilots have been transferred to main AC. In Sweden there is a dispute regarding the future regional segment, and I think there will be more about that in the press in the near future...
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 10:49
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Lønn

Dagens Næringsliv skriver at gjennomsnittslønn for flygere er 850.000.

http://www.dn.no/karriere/article133...T.svl=sistlest
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 13:21
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Flynordic blir Norwegian

Read that the Swedish part Flynordic will be rebranded as Norwegian from April

http://www.flynordic.com/sv/omflynor...rnorwegian.htm

Will that in the end affect the Pilots in Sweden with their lower salaries?

Good to have one name all over and easier to borrow planes and crews.
Would give some more customers
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 14:26
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Will that in the end affect the Pilots in Sweden with their lower salaries?
This is very interesting, to say the least. Guess we will know in the near future. Hope the Swedes don´t back off on this one.
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Old 3rd Apr 2008, 13:17
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Any news regarding Norwegian/recruitment? Are all positions filled or is there still hope, and if so - at what bases? Just wondering and would be thankful for any inside information.
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Old 6th Apr 2008, 00:59
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RTO: Communist government.... Are you insane...? What the f... do you mean???

My dream is a 0 tax community, but I realise that this is not possible if I dont want all norwegians to pay for all expences for their children at school (like in the US), pay for all medical threatment if they get ill and dont have an insurance (like in the US), have a legal right to payment if their employee go bankrupt etc etc etc.

But anyway: I live in Norway, and work in Denmark, with the possibily to move across the bridge to Sweden if that was better. And there is NO doubt at all: You will have the lowest tax if you live in Norway: I pay 26% of my "brutto" income in tax to Norway, if I lived in Sweden I would be paying appr 40%, and my collegues living in Denmark pay 65% of their salary in tax!

THAT is really sick - THAT is quite close to communism!!!
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Old 8th Apr 2008, 20:41
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hi,

A question to all the pilots flying for norwegian. how hard are they on the 500 multi crew enviornment time? I exceed their minimums, but not the 500 mult crew environment.

thanks guys
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Old 9th Apr 2008, 07:51
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You are not allowed to start without 500 multicrew, its insurance minimums as far as I know.
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Old 9th Apr 2008, 13:54
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"They better as there are no reason they should be paid more than the Norwegian based pilots. They live in a cheap country and don't have to put up with a Communist government."
Hey thats a great idea RTO, let all the swedes get all the new destinations thanks to their third world pay scales
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Old 9th Apr 2008, 17:31
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Hiring minimums always are in contrast to pilot supply. If there are loads of pilots with experience and the correct typerating, then the companies can adjust their minimums accordingly. If there are only lowtimers or non-experienved pilots, then the companies again have to adjust their minimums accordingly. Insurance companies will always offer some type of insurance, the minimums of the companies for newhires has to do with how much said company is willing to pay for the insurance.

See where I`m going with this....?
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Old 9th Apr 2008, 22:56
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Most major airlines hire ab-initio pilots with far less than 500 multicrew, without insurance being a problem, so I am convinced this is a question of "tilbud og etterspørsel..."...

Last edited by Hanguren; 10th Apr 2008 at 10:25. Reason: clarification
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Old 10th Apr 2008, 07:06
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The high hiring minimums will come to a halt, and most likely reverse, when pilots can stand together and stop paying for ratings and training. Of course this refers to F/Os, as F/Cs without experience is a big no-no.
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Old 10th Apr 2008, 16:56
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They better as there are no reason they should be paid more than the Norwegian based pilots.
I don't believe that the swedish pilots should be paid more than the norwegian, but I dare anyone to make the claim that an FO pay difference of 15,000 kr per month after tax is fair when performing the exact same duties flying the same colors.

As for Sweden being cheap... what?? Oslo is filthy expensive, sure, but Stockholm isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination.
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Old 12th Apr 2008, 18:04
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Rumors!

Rumors about BIG news from Norwegian in the end of april. Anybody know?
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Old 13th Apr 2008, 18:24
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Rumors about BIG news from Norwegian in the end of april. Anybody know?
CEO Bjørn Kjos gave a short interview to a foreign press (I think half a year ago or so) where he mentioned the agreement with Finnair about starting the regular feeder services to connect Norway to AY flights. Thereafter I've heard nothing more. But if it came true...
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Old 14th Apr 2008, 09:47
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Heard a lot of things, but we`re now in April, so we`ll just have to wait and see.
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