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NutLoose 31st May 2023 06:49

Strike on a Russian oil refinery.



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NutLoose 31st May 2023 07:07

Closing off potential routes into Ukraine pre counter attack?


NutLoose 31st May 2023 07:10

More on the Russian base near Mariupol, Storm Shadow? well and truly flattened those buildings.

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NutLoose 31st May 2023 07:23

For once I agree with a Russian propagandist and look forward to watching it happen.

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rattman 31st May 2023 08:45


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11443378)
Do we we have an identification of the drone used yet? My paper says Ukrjet UJ-22 but the video shows a canard configuration.

https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?tab=all&searchText=Foxtech+REX+340

not anyway offficial bu
t closest match I have seen

jolihokistix 31st May 2023 09:08

Thinking about the defensive lines the Russians have constructed all round Ukraine, and these endless TV analyses of scary tank traps, AVLB bridge-layers, dragon's teeth, etc., surely such tank ditches and minefields etc., can be rendered moot blown apart with a few well-placed bavovna rounds?

Caveat. Hope I'm not giving away state secrets, or spooking Russian occupying forces into any unwanted insecurity.

Ninthace 31st May 2023 09:10


Originally Posted by jolihokistix (Post 11443466)
Thinking about the defensive lines the Russians have constructed all round Ukraine, and these endless TV analyses of scary tank traps, AVLB bridge-layers, dragon's teeth, etc., surely such tank ditches and minefields etc., can be rendered moot blown apart with a few well-placed bavovna rounds?

Caveat. Hope I'm not giving away state secrets, or spooking Russian occupying forces into any unwanted insecurity.

Or you could just go through Belgium :)

ORAC 31st May 2023 09:32

100 German Leopard-1 tanks reported as having finished being refurbished and handed over to Ukraine tomorrow…


NutLoose 31st May 2023 09:41

The counter offensive plans have been leaked, those who are worried about the tank traps needn't be.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2aecebecf0.png

fdr 31st May 2023 11:02


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11443493)
The counter offensive plans have been leaked, those who are worried about the tank traps needn't be.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2aecebecf0.png


it depends on your point of view... the Ukrainians would consider a clockwise rotation through Russia's SW Oblasts as a "high", Putin and a fair number of his followers would consider that as a "depression".

Ukrainians are such cheery people, and will probably extend pleasantries to the conscripts of Russia that it runs over, across, past.

Putin has kept this saga going long enough to keep Tolstoy happy, but I'm sure that the Ukrainians would prefer to get some sleep at some point, rather than be a talking point of Putins memoirs at The Hague.

It's telling that the talking heads on RT are now starting to describe this tiff as "Putin's War", not "Russia's War", perhaps the body bags are starting to get difficult to hide. The population of Russia that is expecting the payout by Putin for their sons and husbands being offed in a foreign land is starting to get pretty annoyed that Putin don't Pay, seems to suffer short arms and deep pockets, they can always take the compensation out of Putins own accounts. That would be something worthy of a hackers efforts!

The Constitution of Ukraine, states that the organization and procedure for conducting referendums “are determined exclusively by the laws of Ukraine” (Art. 92).
Putin conducted a gross violation of established principles of international humanitarian and human rights law, hardly. surprise, but there it is. In the context of Russia's continued assault and ongoing occupation, the organization of a referendum aided or organised by occupying forces presumptively violates the Hague Regulations of 1907 and the IV Geneva Convention. Forcing a change of citizenship, deportation/transportation etc, while favourites of the USSR back in the day, remain specific war crimes, and crimes against humanity. And Lavrov still gets to air his masters voice on the edge of the Hudson, strange world.

However, while looking on eBay for how much Russian C-Rats are being sold off (less than expected, even the on-sale is being affected by supply, Prigozhin may have been telling it right), a copy of the Russian's plans turned up, their action against the nazi's that they appear to be so hung up about.



That was the back of the plans, good OpSec... so here it is, a kopek short and a day late, (well, 81 years, but it'll make Russians happy to have some Nazi memorabilia that doesn't include Putins Snr.






Putin Senior, 1943, Warsaw,
Spoiler
 



Beamr 31st May 2023 11:11

I find it hard to believe that the colour combination of that carpet is a coincidence. Every Russian knows what colours to avoid, it was so in the Soviet Union and it stands even today. Just a few days ago there was a clip from Russia showng people painting park benches over due those being blue and yellow.

I am struggling though to understand what is he trying to say with it.



NutLoose 31st May 2023 11:37

It must be where Solovyev lives LOL, apparently that part of the strike went down well, I would love to see his reaction if his italian villa was hit too :E


Propagandist Solovyev immediately reacted to this public outcry of joy.

ORAC 31st May 2023 14:42

BREAKING

Germany has ordered the closure of four out of five Russia’s Consulates General in the country.

ORAC 31st May 2023 16:04

​​​​​​​All (most) Ukrainians got SMS messages from SBU asking them to turn of their CCTV cameras.

You know what it means.…

ORAC 31st May 2023 16:06

This is the fourth thread in a series where we analyze the potential for independence in various Russian regions, taking into account their history, economy, and geography. Today, we explore Mari El.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....346e2b0593.png

Tartiflette Fan 31st May 2023 16:09

Using precision munitions Russia claims to have sunk Ukraine's largest military ship in Odessa port: the 1 200 tonne „Juri Olefirenko“, a Polnocny-classlanding ship.

NutLoose 31st May 2023 16:13


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11443624)
BREAKING

Germany has ordered the closure of four out of five Russia’s Consulates General in the country.


It appears Russia did it first, so is a tit for tat response


NutLoose 31st May 2023 16:20

It shows the death rate must be huge, as Russia is having to build new facilities to deal with all the corpses of fallen soldiers in Ukraine.


NutLoose 31st May 2023 16:37

We keep getting named as No1 bad guys in Russian eyes and our MP's are fair game......... Some would probably say that is a good thing, as we are obviously doing something right and are on the right side of history. B Wallace, keep your head down :ok:



ORAC 31st May 2023 17:29

Returning to the condition of Lukashenko and his possible demise (last post was on the reinforcement of Russian troops in Belarus to suppress any dissent after his death)

IS SOMETHING COOKING IN BELARUS?

Two FSB planes flew to Belarus, and Viktor Lukashenko (son of Belarus Dictator Alexander) flew to China.

This very same FSB aircraft was last seen in Minsk on August 18 & 26, 2020. During that occasion, the Director of the FSB, Nikolai Patrushev, flew on it.

Dictator’s son may be setting up succession details (for after his father kicks the bucket), or seeking financial support from China.

Dictator’s son arrived in Beijing at 17:03 local time today. He is likely seeking money or other backing for succession.


​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/hajun_by/status/...HhlFHGKbTPQr_A
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