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NutLoose 23rd April 2023 21:34

Ukraines Longest Day, the first 48 hours, a write up describing what needs to be done.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/04/18...akhmut-himars/

Wokkafans 23rd April 2023 22:00




GlobalNav 24th April 2023 02:57


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11424899)
I just cannot understand the thought behind this, they hand over tanks and APC to form the core of a counter offensive but withhold the equipment that might guarantee the success.



https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/04/...eign-minister/

Whatever the official rationale, it’s not being shared publicly. I note there have been op-Ed’s by knowledgeable military experts which urge the provision of fighter jets for UKR. I’m astonished that any general officer with combined armed operations would choose to conduct defensive or offensive ground operations with insufficient AirPower.

Beamr 24th April 2023 03:38

One for the Hague. If he is not killed in action, he must be dug out from whatever hell hole he is hiding in and dragged to the court.



Timmy Tomkins 24th April 2023 08:57


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11424899)
I just cannot understand the thought behind this, they hand over tanks and APC to form the core of a counter offensive but withhold the equipment that might guarantee the success.



​​​​​​​https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/04/...eign-minister/

it is Very frustrating, especially when this clip posted recently illustrates very eloquently exactly what they need as well as why.


Our politicians need to find some courage and get on with it. What is the real obstacle I wonder, other than being weak,

NutLoose 24th April 2023 09:10

Russia are claiming 2 Mig 29 and 2 SU25 shot down this week, all be it without the usual video evidence.. Lets hope if true the pilots lived to fight another day, though I highly doubt Russian claims bearing in mind they have shot down the Ukrainian AF several times over.

Ironically, by announcing such they are actually supporting the argument by Ukraine that they need the F-16 to replace them, whether true or not.

NutLoose 24th April 2023 09:25

Something went bang in Sevastopol harbour and was burning.


NutLoose 24th April 2023 09:33

Ukrainian Strykers on show.



NutLoose 24th April 2023 09:37

Lol, love the down inside the turret shot... UKraine Twardy's


NutLoose 24th April 2023 09:44

No idea where this is, Fire trucks look Russian?


NutLoose 24th April 2023 09:55

Graphic Beware, Clearing a trench, quotes only so you choose if you want to view it, it won't auto load on page

Build up
Assault

FUMR 24th April 2023 10:37

Seems a waste of a grenade after shooting the guy!

wondering 24th April 2023 10:45

Anybody F-18s?
Australia’s Mothballed F/A-18 Hornets Should Be Given To Ukraine
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ven-to-ukraine

Video Mixdown 24th April 2023 11:21


Originally Posted by wondering (Post 11425144)
Anybody F-18s? Australia’s Mothballed F/A-18 Hornets Should Be Given To Ukraine

Hard to see an argument for not doing it. What's the difference between supplying combat aircraft and supplying all the other weapons that are already in use? Ukraine's Western allies have now invested so much in repelling the invasion that they surely cannot now afford to let Russia claim any sort of victory.

fdr 24th April 2023 11:29


Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11425140)
Seems a waste of a grenade after shooting the guy!

Saves on postage.

That was a risky assault for the Ukrainians, it could have easily gone the other way. The Russians friend slept through the whole thing. Seems a lot of effort to get a Lada for the surviving family.

If the incident was beside Moscow, there might be sympathy for the brutality of war, but this bunch are part of a criminal invasion, they are fighting the wrong people.

Thrust Augmentation 24th April 2023 11:59


Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11425140)
Seems a waste of a grenade after shooting the guy!

Unless you weren't sure how many Ork's were down the Ork hole.

NutLoose 24th April 2023 12:13

Now that's different!


NutLoose 24th April 2023 12:23


:sad::(


fdr 24th April 2023 13:52

If Putrid had time set aside for a lucid moment, would he wonder how long his project of winning the hearts and minds of Ukrainians will take to heal the hatred towards Russians, and Putin, that Ukrainians have gained, and which the rest of the world has largely condemned? When your only mate is a nasty individual such as Prickgoesin, perhaps you need to consider a new vocation, as master tactician is not working out so well.

NutLoose 24th April 2023 15:26

Well with this guy as his mate, I suppose he is using China to boost his eastern numbers, because Russia on its own does not come close and is I am glad to report diminishing over the last couple of years.. A bit of a gall asking the west to behave decently!



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