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Winemaker 22nd April 2023 16:54


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11424227)
This is one of the most incredible things I have seen in this whole !!!!!show.




​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...Cx3cqU6-QtAAAA

Is this being shown on Russkie TV?

NutLoose 22nd April 2023 17:12

Some more barking at the moon.

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chopper2004 22nd April 2023 17:15

Russia accidentally bombed their own city
 
OOps

Targeting systems gone kaupt or jammed..

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...mpaign=air-dnr

Unless all hell broke loose and Ukr were in the city.....getting ever closer

cheers

Sue Vêtements 22nd April 2023 17:26


Originally Posted by fdr (Post 11423966)
Ukraine would make a good NATO member

Member? How about just have them lead NATO!

I think that would put the fear of god into any potential enemy

Sue Vêtements 22nd April 2023 17:37


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11424209)
Copy of Nutloose video with added subtitles.

"Immigration policy will be zero!"

w(ho)tf would want to go there?

Ninthace 22nd April 2023 17:39


Originally Posted by Sue Vêtements (Post 11424250)
Member? How about just have them lead NATO!

I think that would put the fear of god into any potential enemy

Maybe by the time this thing is over, they will have had enough. Perhaps they would be more useful as NATO consultants since they should know more than anybody else by then.

petit plateau 22nd April 2023 19:08

Destruction of electronic warfare equipment as a prelude to a counteroffensive. Analytics confirms dates of counteroffensive announced by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine ....

https://www.molfar.global/en-blog/el...sian-occupiers

Andrewgr2 22nd April 2023 19:56


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11424187)

I suspect Major Kurilovich Nikolaev Vladimirovich, will need to be wary of 6th floor windows if he is being lined up for President.

anxiao 22nd April 2023 19:56

One fascinating aspect of petit platea's link is the Molfar sites's tools section. The ability of a private individual to access such OSINT tools and use them to find detailed intelligence is to me as an intelligence outsider astounding.


Wokkafans 22nd April 2023 20:00

"Heroic Ukrainian pilot's cockpit cam shows daring below-radar flight"


langleybaston 22nd April 2023 23:06

In a world fed with information, disinformation, lies, ignorance and conspiracy my fall-back position is extreme cynicism and disbelief.

A glance at "the News" or any media suggests strongly that we are permanently in a time trap, midnight +1, 1st April to 1159 1st April.

Apply the test for yourselves.

ORAC 23rd April 2023 06:15

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...anctions-us-uk

‘Our credibility must be safeguarded’: Cyprus in turmoil after Russia sanctions

Island shuts 10,000 Russian bank accounts as US and UK put Cypriot lawyers and accountants under sanctions for enabling oligarchs including Roman Abramovich

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Attending this week’s emergency meeting at the presidential palace, the island’s central bank governor, Constantinos Herodotou, said Cypriot authorities had not only closed 123,000 suspicious bank accounts but about 43,000 shell companies.

“Cyprus was addicted to Russian money before the Americans very efficiently began weaning them off it,” said Prof Hubert Faustmann who teaches history and political science at the University of Nicosia. “They really have cleaned up their act and what we are seeing is the very last act in a story that has gone on for decades.”

ORAC 23rd April 2023 07:15

https://understandingwar.org/backgro...-april-22-2023

Russian milbloggers have provided enough geolocated footage and textual reports to confirm that Ukrainian forces have established positions in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast as of April 22 though not at what scale or with what intentions.

Geolocated footage published by a Russian milblogger on April 22 shows that Ukrainian forces have established positions on the Dnipro River bank north of Oleshky (7km southwest of Kherson City) and advanced up to the northern outskirts of the settlement on the E97 highway, as well as west of Dachi (10km south of Kherson City).[1] This footage also indicates that Russian forces may not control islands in the Kinka and Chaika rivers less than half a kilometer north of the geolocated Ukrainian positions near the Antonivsky Bridge.

Russian milbloggers claimed on April 20 and 22 that Ukrainian forces have maintained positions in east bank Kherson Oblast for weeks, established stable supply lines to these positions, and regularly conduct sorties in the area—all indicating a lack of Russian control over the area.[2] Another milblogger’s battle map claimed that Russian forces do not control some Dnipro River delta islands southwest of Kherson City as of April 22, suggesting possible Ukrainian advances on these islands.[3]

Some milbloggers complained that the slow rate of Russian artillery fire due to the over-centralization of the Russian military command allowed Ukrainian forces to land on the east bank.[4] Russian forces may be prioritizing maintaining defenses in urban areas such as Oleshky and Nova Kakhovka, leaving the islands in the Dnipro River delta unmanned.

The extent and intent of these Ukrainian positions remain unclear, as does Ukraine’s ability and willingness to maintain sustained positions in this area.

ISW is recoding territory on the east bank of the Dnipro River to Ukrainian-held only now because this is the first time ISW has observed reliable geolocated imagery of Ukrainian positions on the east bank along with multi-sourced Russian reports of an enduring Ukrainian presence there.



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Geriaviator 23rd April 2023 17:35

Enjoying the report of a Russian pilot bombing his own city of Belgorod and now a second missile being found in the same area reminded me of Heller's novel Catch-22 in which Milo arranges to bomb an American base as a moneymaking exercise. Given the tales of corruption, I wouldn't be surprised if Russia has a Milo-vitch or two in their ranks.

Beamr 23rd April 2023 19:32

Wagner takes no prisoners anymore.
I would be banned if I'd write here what I think.




Mr Mac 23rd April 2023 20:22

Beamr
I don’t think a lot of German tank crews made it, as their Black uniforms were often confused with SS uniforms in WW2 which obviously had dark connotations. When someone says something like that you just know they are know where near any trench !

Cheers
Mr Mac

tdracer 23rd April 2023 21:02


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11424851)
Wagner takes no prisoners anymore.
I would be banned if I'd write here what I think.


https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/statu...16055661383684

Good of them to make it official and public knowledge. Not only will we have undisputable evidence for the war crimes trial, Ukrainian soldiers now know they might as well fight to the death, since that would be the outcome of trying to surrender.

fdr 23rd April 2023 21:03


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11424246)

Magic mushrooms in the water supply? Perhaps she should read the USSR constitution before ranting inanities related to the workers paradise.

Every State of the USSR had the absolute right to withdraw at their discretion from the Union. It was quite a well drafted document. That it led to Stalin, Beria, and Putin is Russia's shame.


1936 Constitution

Chapter 1 ARTICLE 17.To every Union Republic is reserved the right freely to secede from the U.S.S.R.


What Russia is doing now would have been a crime under the same constitution:

ARTICLE 18. The territory of a Union Republic may not be altered without its consent.


ARTICLE 22. The Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic consists of the Altai, Krasnodar, Krasnoyarsk, Ordjonikidze, Maritime and Khabarovsk Territories; the Archangel, Vologda, Voronezh, Gorky, Ivanovo, Irkutsk, Kalinin, Kirov, Kuibyshev, Kursk, Leningrad, Molotov, Moscow, Murmansk, Novosibirsk, Omsk, Orel, Penza, Rostov, Ryazan, Saratov, Sverdlovsk, Smolensk, Stalingrad, Tambov, Tula, Chelyabinsk, Chita, Chkalov and Yaroslavl Regions; The Tatar, Bashkir, Daghestan, Buryat-Mongolian, Kabardino-Balkarian, Kalmyk, Komi, Crimean, Mari, Mordovian, Volga German, North Ossetian, Udmurt, Checheno-Ingush, Chuvash and Yakut Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics; and the Adygei, Jewish, Karachai, Oirot, Khakass and Cherkess Autonomous Regions.

Khrushchev ceded Crimea to Ukraine FSR on 19 February, 1954.


ARTICLE 23. The Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic consists of the Vinnitsa, Volynsk, Voroshilovgrad, Dnepropetrovsk, Drogobych, Zhitomir, Zaporozhe, Izmail, Kamenets-Podolsk, Kiev, Kirovograd, Lvov, Nikolaev, Odessa, Poltava, Rovno, Stalino, Stanislav, Sumy, Tarnopol, Kharkov, Chemigov and Chernovitsy Regions.


Treaty on the Formation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics drafted 1919, ratified 30 December, 1922

Article 26 affirmed the clause in the declaration where each republic has the right to leave the Union.

Perhaps she should change to drinking bottled water.

NutLoose 23rd April 2023 21:21

More views of Bradley’s sporting the new camo

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NutLoose 23rd April 2023 21:23

I just cannot understand the thought behind this, they hand over tanks and APC to form the core of a counter offensive but withhold the equipment that might guarantee the success.

​​​​​​​https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/04/...eign-minister/


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