They have plenty of C-130s though.





(How bizarre, the reply appears before the question. Must be powered by neutrinos)

Casting aside the usual assumptions
 

Don't assume the Israeli AF would have to fly non-stop across unfriendly nations. Instead, imagine an Israeli aircraft landing in Saudi and collecting pre-positioned items ;) Unholy alliance? No, simply expedient for both parties. Time will tell. subject to media being allowed to report the full truth, which would certainly make a change.

Edit: How does this answer get posted before the Op ????

I suggest you make that prediction a bet.

I am willing to take that bet.


I suggest that the loser never posts on Pprune again.

Brave enough to put your money where your mouth is, or are you all bull...talk

SAM

Where is the link to your information ?

The US Gov't released info the other week that they had taken delivery of 20 x 30,000 lb bombs for a similar purpose to what you described and to be carried by B52's and B2's.

totally off-the wall question, but how practical would it be to use one of the heavier-lift Jericho missile variants to launch a penetration warhead? It may only be able to lift around a tonne or so, but the kinetic energy due to the re-entry speed would be high.
Could you accurately designate a target to a bomb moving that fast?

Bench Mark your calendar.....October 2012!

US Presidential elections in November.....and Obama very definitely needs an October Surprise to survive this election!

In this case....I pray the bombs are a dud....and the Dud bombs!:E

11 months is a very long time in politics, but Obama will win the election. The GOP has no surefire opponent for him. If Gingrich really is at the top of the list right now, they're in a lot of trouble.

The GOP's best and brightest hopes come across as a bunch of flip-flopping attention whore fruitbats. The problem with having to appeal to your support base of 'the rich and powerful' is that you need the votes of the 'superstitious sheep' - the net result is you have candidates that any rational, intelligent & sympathetic people can see are self indulgent bat**** crazy numpties.

Not exactly electable.

People seem to assume the Israelis will be able to just float around seemingly at will, unmolested at any level they like!

I would think it a fairly safe assumption to say so.

Sorry guys, the site is plagued by a time lord called IB, the owners.

The whole site has posts that should have a sequential place but if the time 'given' to you is 6 hrs BEFORE you post that place moves back those 6hrs (LA time) and is placed in FRONT of a question. That just makes it daft, as some of you have already commented.

Nothing we mods can do about but we are giving IB a bad time to correct it.

PPP

I'll put money on the US not striking against Iran before xmas.

Hi
Is the destructive power as much as the 22.000lb Grand Slam Bomb ?

So will Obama give his Nobel Peace Prize back before this first strike, or will the B2s have hastily painted six pointed stars on the wings?

Seem to remember something about a bet being placed before on here. And it being WELSHED on!

Bum cheeks and a rose any one? :p

Load Toad

You don't know much about American electoral politics, do you? The " rich and powerful" aren't near enough votes and they went for Obama last time out, anyway. The "base" of the Republican party is virtually everywhere outside of the coasts and big cities. Even in the 2008 blowout, you could have driven coast-to-coast and not passed thru a county that went for Obama. It is the rural states that make up the Republican party, not the rich and powerful.

GF

Last year I read an article that said it was a small number of B1B Bombers that had been modified to carry this weapon. I would imagine any attack would be launched from DG rather than compromising allies in the Middle East.

I love it. It's like a Tom Clancy novel. Dam good plan, though.

Erm, is the bet on between you and Tourist, SAM?

Much as crashing a plane into an 'iconic' government building was (Debt of Honor), or a pact between a drug cartel and islamists (The Teeth of the Tiger)...

Saam you are off your head!!! It might be a rumour site but honestly JK Rowling should be getting worried about your fantasy ramblings!
I wouldn't be so worried about the "accident prone patriot batteries" you mention but be slightly more concerned with the extensive SAM/air defence network that Iran possesses!

If you want my opinion for all it's worth, I'm more inclined to believe that the Americans have trained up a double of one of Ach Ma Dinner Jacket's aids. Once he gets into a prominent position, he'll do for the Iranian Honcho with a lethal Vulcan death grip! Just like Mr Spoc!:8

After he's done the deed, he'll escape down the Presidential Toilet u-bend, crawl through the Tehran sewers and emerge at a pre-determined Rendezvous point. Here an SAS crew will be waiting to drench him down with a high-pressure hose, and then he'll be picked up together with the SAS guys by an R.A.F. Chinook. This'll spirit our heroic bods away to an R.N. Frigate waiting in the Persian Gulf, providing the Iranian Navy haven't, in he meantime, impounded the damn thing. From here it'll be off back to blighty or state side or whatever to regail the Western Press with the whole story about how Anglo-American co-operation saved the world from another bad bugger.:ok:

What does anyone else think?:confused:

FB:)

FB

Have you ever had the misfortune to pass by a Tehran sewer?

Hi Caz,

I'm sure the average Tehran sewer is not particularly pleasant to go for swim/paddle through. However, I' sure our Uncla Sam's man in Tehran wil be trained to cope by the CIA/Yank Special forces and all. Anyway, its because of his likely state that I very much imagine the SAS guys will fetch up with the old Garden Hose! I mean... they're a pretty hard as nails bunch, I know, but I bet the toughest of even them's stomach would flip one or twice if placed in close proximity for any length of time to some bod who's just been for a dip in the afore mentioned.:yuk:

FB:)

Is one of our bombs missing tonight, reports of a big bang in Isfahan, various descriptions of blast size from a firework to a window rattler.

Finningley Boy

The "request for a campaign / op medal" seems to be missing from the end of your description - or does that come 50 years later ?:O

I'll get my coat.

500N,

I know a thing or two about this, and it'd be all very hush hush!

Believe me, ...erm, the chaps would probably get something in lieu of a public gong.. A night out with a tart or something.:cool:

FB :)

Nope....but did stay in a hotel in Ahwaz with the ol' vented sewer running middle of the hallway that had the rooms off to each side. I can imagine it is much the same as any Jube in Tehran. Matter of fact....Tehran Jubes were not all that obnoxious....but that was in the time of the Shah when things were a bit more Westernized.

air pig wrote

Satellite Image Showing Damage from November 12, 2011 Blast at Military Base in Iran

http://isis-online.org/uploads/isis-...copy_thumb.jpg

http://isis-online.org/uploads/isis-...copy_thumb.jpg

From

Institute for Science and International Security › ISIS Reports › Satellite Image Showing Damage from November 12, 2011 Blast at Military Base in Iran

Iran reports cloud details of missile commander death in base explosion - The Washington Post

best to consider whether these news reports may be related to am Iranian knee-jerk following the explosion
Iran 'arrests 12 CIA spies' accused of targeting nuclear programme - Telegraph
Fars News Agency :: Intelligence Minister: Captured Spies Active in All Fields

SAM

I'll take that bet if you want to offer it to someone else as well except with a different reward.


Re " Immediately after receiving a nuclear strike Israel could not launch a counter attack - end of story."

That is a big assumption and I would say you are wrong. Israel will retaliate even if it is a Nuclear bomb. Iran won't be able to wipe out all of Israel in one go.

Wow, Sam! That's one hell of scenario that you paint. Food for a lot of thought. Thank you.

The inane ramblings of SAM Man are more like an amalgam of rejected plots from the less lucid moments of Tom Clancy, Freddy Forsyth, Nelson DeMille and Andy theNab. But not quite as entertaining.

I'm in for a slice of the wager too, if the offer is still on the table (little does he realise that if I stop posting as HTB I can always come back with a different name...doh!).

As he said in an earlier post "The ramblings of a mad Englishman..."; although he forgot to mention the bigoted fantasist elements of those ramblings.

Where did he get the large knife, where did his pal get to, was the "large black man" not armed?:eek:

Keep it coming SAM, we all need a bit of light relief during the darkling days of Winter.

Mister B

Erm, HTB. "little does he realise..." He does now.

Nah. He he's too dim to pick up on that...doh!

Mister b

So, have the US bought these for Iran or N. Korea? Or both? 8 seems to be a very specific number, as if they have the targets picked out already.

I'm wondering if SAM means "Armageddon" instead of just a measly "apocalypse". I note that he missed out India invading/nukeing Pakistan, or vice versa.


Courtney, where you a young Fg Off visiting Akrotiri in the mid 70s who devised a game that involved stopping the billiard room fan rotating by using the top of your head? Or was that a different Courtney?

Mister B

HTB. Might have been slightly later than that, but, yes, it was I. The whole idea was to stop the fan in one hit. Hence lots of pictures of me with big gashes in my forehead. I only did it because it was incredibly mature and sensible!

I would think "armageddon".

Courtney

Yes, I think Armageddon as well, these things have a tendency to escalate and everone wants to join in with their nuclear toys.

I'm a bit hazy on the time, but I remember the gory details. I think we had actually been having a game of something involving balls before your more inventive game - I recall my partner distracting you after you had chalked your cue so that I could de-chalk it with a wet thumb. I don't think it would have made a difference to any of our shots due to the intake of whatever was to hand at the time.

Anyway, we won't be able to do that sort of thing after Christmas because the world will have descended in nuclear winter following the raid on Iran...

Mister B

Ah! Indeed! Happy, happy days. Better get fan stopping before it's too late, then.

Drink up!

Courtney

SAMXXV
"Lets see where we are in a few week's time then............http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/confused.gif"

SAM, since you are so confident and now 2 other people have said they will take the bet (HTB and myself), how about "stepping up to the plate" and accepting the challenge ?

or did someone other than the large black man get his balls chopped off
with the "large knife".


OK, SAM, here is my bet for you. I'll look in the morning to see if you have accepted.


If I lose, I'll give 50 pounds to a service charity or two.

(in view of some people's views on H4H I'll to a quick ask around before deciding but more than likely a RAF orientated one since this is a RAF orientated forum).

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