If it were a Clancy novel the Western economies would be in crisis, maybe the outlandish notion of a major currency failing would be central to the plot.

So much for the terminal velocity idea:rolleyes:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ed6_1323361691

Is it just me, or have the wings come off it?

I think it glided down and the wings snapped off during a hard landing not on a runway. They seem to be stuck on with stickytape a bit squiffy.

I think thats why it is supported along the length rather than at the middle







Caveat:

I have no idea what I am talking about.:)

They haven't twigged it's actually still ticking away somewhere inside...

Got It!

It's made of rubber.

Who makes the best tin foil? Baco, Waitrose, Sainsbury's? Not sure I'd trust ASDA right now.

Would a colander be better?

http://images.inmagine.com/img/aspir.../ngs067340.jpg

Can anyone translate what the writing on the flags / banners says ?

I guess it will be something along the lines of iran crowing over downing an imperialist plane.


Please note SAM - A 170 Drone does not constitute a Big Blu.

Death to America?

1. This is a military aircrew plus important others forum. Please don't post any pictures of ugly spods, even if it is to illustrate a point.

2. Collinder won't work, it has holes in it that let the psychotronic waves through. Fancy not knowing that!

3. If it wasn't sticky tape, what was holding the wings on in the first place?

4. So there are only 2 working F-14s.

Questions?

Courtney

Is this more your style of tin foil hat ? Even managed a flying related one :O

http://hotspur1337.files.wordpress.c...-foil-hat1.jpg

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/file...hw4ed44424.jpg

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/file...hw4ed44424.jpg

heres one to scare you
https://riverdaughter.files.wordpres...pg?w=257&h=300
https://encrypted.google.com/imgres?...p75idBA&zoom=1

So wrong, yet, so right.

Courtney,

The majority of part one is footage showing the history of the Iranian Tomcats. See videos at You Tube source for info.

A brief look at IRIAF F-14 Tomcat history in Iran.

In the second part the uploader is highlighting the serials in the updated footage.

This footage was first shown on IRIB1 on 16 Jan 2011...so its very recent footage.
It shows a TV reporter having fun with IRIAF F14 crew.
It shows these Tomcats:
3-6016 Recently overhauled
3-6058
3-6045
3-6057 (They're all standing on her back)
3-6052 under overhaul
3-6035 recently overhauled after 13 years in storage
3-60?? an empty tomcat frame

Capt Fallah performs a FCF on a tomcat
Capt Shafee' flies a Tomcat from TFB6 Bushehr to TFB8 Esfahan

How many F-14s are actually operational is anyone's guess?

Five up on parade during 2011

Photos: Grumman F-14A Tomcat Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

12 visible to me bringing up the rear in this parade image from 2008

Photos: Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29UB (9-51) Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

Google "Israel Iran News" today & search. The underlying current is that Israel is looking at an air-strike on Iran on Christmas Day. That makes utter sense to me. I would do the same if I was religious - which I'm not.

That makes sense to me as well because Jews celebrate Christmas right...no wait a minute its because Shi'ites celebrate the birth of baby Jesus...no that still doesn't sound right...how about the air forces of Saudi, Syria or Turkey....? I can't think of any reason why an attack by Israel on Christmas day would make sense any more than an attack on any other day of the year unless of course they want Obama to choke on his Xmas morning cornflakes.

Welcome to the Twilight Zone SD69. Just bask in the warped logic and random changes of argument; marvel at the sheer volume of in-depth geo-political and military information and insightful anal ysis by a master of the art of obfuscation.

We now have just over 6 days to SAM's predicted meltdown in the middle east (and the subsequent global backlash as all the other states he has roped in start whooshing their rockets at their long standing enemies).

Hope I'm not revealing your plot for the book M2.;)

500N

Did you say you were going to Northern Territories for a bit of peace and quite and R&R? I was there just before Christmas......1974 with a 4 Vulcan detachment (Exercise Sunflower - the last one I believe); we spent 3 weeks at Darwin before going on to Singapore for another 3 week exercise, getting out of town about a week before Tracy let rip. Now that place must have looked like Armageddon afterwards - I think one of the few structures left standing was the (brick/concrete built) Territorian Hotel.

Gawd I feel old...:sad:

HTB

Yes, that's correct, and the person I stay with was in Darwin on the night Tracy hit, has some interesting stories to tell. He wasn't evacuated as he had a Bulldozer and worked for the Gov't. Some of his photos are amazing, Tracy certainly did a more thorough job than the Japs and the Japs did a pretty good job anyway.

I've been lucky, in 10 years of going up in Dec / Jan I have dodge all the cyclones and only NEARLY got stuck once by flooding stopping me getting back to Darwin. 2 weeks after I left the River was 9 miles wide, nothing moved for weeks and months in the outer regions :O

It would have been very hot for you guys if you were from the UK, how did you survive the Wet Season build up (apart from drinking copius amounts of beer :O).

Ooh Ooh Me sir, me - I'll have double - yes double against the next 12 months of a Major (i.e. more than the Osirak one saga ) bun fight.

Something that actually makes MSM and has people worried.
I will let the old farts of Prune - Beags, Tuc, Pop and Wholi etc referee....

I bet you £100 to the charidee of mil choice there is not a serious war in the mid-east before Dec 31st 2012.

Note - I might have to standing order that one - I would do 3 blats of £35, so bet is £105 if I cant pay in a oner.

You Up for it Sam??????/

You're full of seasonal cheer aren't you SAM?

Why isn't the USA threatening Turkey this week?

Perhaps they're taking a break from Turkey in between Thanksgiving and Christmas?

Anyway, I feel a song coming on:

Get up in the morning, in my bomb proof shack
I wear a tin foil suit on my front and back
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......
.....The Isrealites

etc

SAM may have won his bet!
Earthquake 4.5 Richter in southern Iran today Fars News Agency :: Quake Hits Southern Iran

Well -it IS an earthquake bomb. While the Iranians were chasing fake drones they missed the big B-2 overhead

Or at least thats one theory

Aha, I see that the earthquake is reported to be in Area 53.1. Is that a typo and they really meant Area 51... :suspect:

Cut that out you two - you'll only encourage SAM.

Three more days, plus the remains of today...no more earthquake stories, please.

500N - hope you had a good weekend up their with the slatwater crocs. I don't recall the weather being too oppressive when I was there in '74(although Singapore was a bit more humid and sticky), and we didn't need an excuse for drinking. Does my memory serve me well - was there a policy about proximity to the bar once a drink had been served (in schooners and ponies?), and was there an early closing policy that caused an unseemely rush at about 6-o-clock?

Mister B

HTB

I don't leave until the 22nd or so.

Re "I don't recall the weather being too oppressive when I was there in '74"
must have been a mild build up then, normally Oct / November the heat and the oppressive humidity starts - which is why they call it the "Troppo season".
You must have spent most of your time in air conditioning :O

Singapore and Darwin are both in the tropics and both have the same type of weather, maybe just your perception of what was what then.

Don't know about the proximity to the bar rule, apart from being general Pub politeness to let others get served. however the "caused an unseemly rush at about 6-o-clock ?" was called the 6 o'clock swill and yes, it did occur, then everyone piled out onto the street with the obvious consequences. Note - I wasn't around then, just know of it from reading and being told stories.

" Cut that out you two - you'll only encourage SAM."
The thread has become a bit boring since SAM quietened down.

3 more days ............

500N

I think there was a line marked on the floor about a yard (maybe less) from the bar edge to discourage loiterers (this was a long time ago). I certainly remember much more monsoon type rain in Singapore, Darwin was dry and sunny, and I was only 24, so didn't feel pain or discomfort...

I also recall the Gp Capt's welcoming chat..."don't get suckered in by the clouds, you'll still burn" and "keep away from the smoke from bush fires, it's full of insects riding the thermals - no danger from the bugs, but the birds that eat the bugs are pretty big" (think his name was Henderson).

Don't worry, he'll be back - to pay off his debt:E

Mister B

I remember that in Rockhampton in 1969 when mighty Whirlwinds were transported from Singapore to Australia for exercise 'Coral Sands'.

The bar top was covered in (5oz?) glasses and the barmaid would fill them with beer streaming continuously from a pipe. When they opened a line of gorrillas would slap down some A$s and buy a row.

Having just finished watching Obama's speech on the US withdrawal from Iraq and the accompanying information that from the end of the year Iraqi airspace will now be protected by three propeller driven aircraft, it did occur to me that the major obstacle to an Israeli airstrike against Iran has now been lifted :\

Israel will be launching a raid, with TOT being 0001 Z 16 DEC 2011:O

500N

That's a Friday - surely they would leave it three more days so they could play "Just another manic Monday" as background music as they ran in to drop their loads? :rolleyes:

Is that what you lot get up to when on a bombing run ?:O

The Iranian reply will be to have 99 Luft Balloons up in the sky as a reply.


Just out of interest, do pilots listen to music when flying, such as when doing long distance boring transits ? Such as flying FA18's from the US to Australia ?

or at any other time ?

500N

I will only admit to listening on HF to commentary on the first Moon Landing whilst en route to Cyprus!!

500N - re listening to music

In the Tornado, yes (and the nav listened too:cool:). The rear cockpit had probably the most expensive cheap cassette player in the world, primarily for loading mission data into the computer. The tape machine could be used for recording cockpit conversation, so you could narrate the mission progress for later debrief. It could also be used for playing music cassettes, but at your own risk, as it had a propensity for chewing up the tapes (including the mission data - manual data entry anyone?).

Hey, it's nearly 15th, are you as excited as I am...:rolleyes: Where is SAM?

Mister B

Dire Straits, "Brothers in Arms" at Akrotiri IIRC....... ;)

HTB

Check your PM's.

ORAC

I did buy a "Brothers in Arms" tape when it was newly released, but that was in Dundee (Leuchars det), then left it in my holdall, in the spent links bay, so no new music on the transit back to LBH...D'oh

That's not to say that I didn't also have it at AKR (I favoured southern rangers, while may others found the delights of scandinavia more th their liking:E).

Mister B

HTB
"Hey, it's nearly 15th, are you as excited as I am...:rolleyes:

I have to wait until nearly the 16th on my time :O


"Where is SAM?"
MIA by the looks of it, better send out the SAR (or CSAR).


I see Obama asking for his Drone back, maybe he'll send / drop a Big Blu to destroy it.
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We're into hours now - about 36 to go. I expect SAM is absent as he needs to go to the bank to withdraw the cash...

Haven't you been following the SARH thread - UK does not have such things as SAR, seesaw, CR - something about JWPMT in the glossy MoD brochure.

Mister B

Yes, I have been following the SAR thread.

Quite interesting is all I will say !!! LOL



If the "UK does not have such things as SAR", then what is the duke doing ?
Flying around for jollies ?:O

Ooops

I meant CSAR

H

We usually get the Americans to do our CSAR for us.

Yes, the F3 Data Recorder was OK for music, but I had another plan. I got our squippers to make me up a patch lead that went between the mic/tel connector of my helmet and the aircraft portion. It had a short lead to plug into my own casette player, piping the music into the mic side of the system. That meant that hitting we had music in the cockpit and pressing the tx button allowed us to transmit to the rest of the formation - or anyone else that cared to listen. Worked in the Hawk and F4 too (with a different connector).

Post 289...

You know things are not going well when WEBF starts bantering you!:D

In this case I don't think things have been going well for a long time!

"In this case I don't think things have been going well for a long time!"


LOL,

He seems to get shot down in flames all the time but manages to get back up and shot down again.
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