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RAF Gender Neutrality Language-Really??

Old 12th Sep 2023, 11:04
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RAF Gender Neutrality Language-Really??


Is this a joke or is it really happening?😱
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12th Sep 2023, 20:05
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There are two genders. The rest are psychiatric disorders and should be assessed as unfit to work/fly as with other similar conditions.
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Well, what words are up for review?
Airmanship
Cockpit
Joystick
Male and female cannon plugs
Hangars and undercarriage can be construed as an oblique reference to the male anatomy
Flaps similarly for females
"Hit the tit" has to go, as does "Call the ball"
Jesus nut, or any kind of nuts, ball bearings
Better get rid of the term "Air VICE Marshal", sexual connotations, and also "Privates".

How much more woke can they go? How do women deal with Personstruation and Personopause?






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Old 12th Sep 2023, 11:45
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A bit like that daft Spam nonsense at Incirlik! "Heads Up" or "Head sector" were deemed offensive to women, as was the 'Kill Box'.... So they would talk about "Going locker to locker in the container", instead of "Head to head in the box".

We told them that they were also using a word which was offensive to our females. "Gee, sorry, what word is that?".

"Bush"! As in GeeDubya, for example!
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I worry how we're going to manage all this woke nonsense. Especially when we no longer have any management to manage the managers.
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I worry how we're going to manage all this woke nonsense.
​​​​​​​I think you need to find another word for manage so that it is gender neutral.
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 13:11
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Originally Posted by stickstirrer

Is this a joke or is it really happening?😱
So, they want you to 'engage' in the survey but they don't want your opinion.
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Well, what words are up for review?
Airmanship
Cockpit
Joystick
Male and female cannon plugs
Hangars and undercarriage can be construed as an oblique reference to the male anatomy
Flaps similarly for females
"Hit the tit" has to go, as does "Call the ball"
Jesus nut, or any kind of nuts, ball bearings
Better get rid of the term "Air VICE Marshal", sexual connotations, and also "Privates".

Not forgetting:

Manual (including modes, aircrew manual etc)
Mandating
Manpower
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 13:27
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In the first line he has 'Mandated' ...tut tut ....surely he should have 'persondated' !!

Edit: Damn, just noted I wasn't the first to see it!!
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 13:38
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What Gender Neutral term does Lord Etherton want to be used instead of Lord/Lady?
or is this a case of do as I say...
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The race of man, humans, homo sapiens [aka wise man]... man, where will this end?

If airmanship has to go because it has those 3 letters in the middle of it I guess there is no limit to it. With terms like woman, women, female and alike being chopped by the training system I guess we are back to symbols. Quite a quiz but let's stick to the top 10 (apologies for those Spinal Tap and beyond):
  1. ♂ =
  2. ♀ =
  3. ⚥ =
  4. ⚦ =
  5. ⚤ =
  6. ⚢ =
  7. ⚣ =
  8. ⚨ =
  9. ⚩ =
  10. ⚲ =
Of course, I've no idea if these symbols are even included on PPRuNe, so they may just show as gibberish. Ah, the irony of that is to be embraced...

I wonder how the (former) Lord informed the House of Lords of his unilateral decision to rename them?

No?
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Was there any female Red Indian Chiefs? if not then the word Chief indicates a male position, so Chief of the Air Staff or Air Chief Marshal will need to go as it infers a male role.
Chinook and Apache are named after Indian tribes, so they will need to be renamed so as to be shown to be racially neutral. Dakota too.

and the use of the word right in anything, as it is prejudicial to Lefties everywhere, or indeed the word left for the same reasons.

The inmates are truly running the asylum.
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 14:19
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Is it just me?

It amazes me how quickly after leaving the RAF that I stopped caring about cr@p like this. Bearing in mind that people currently serving either donít post on here or arenít especially bothered and just get on with their jobs, itís incredible that a bunch of people who left long before I did can still allow their knickers to get knotted over something that doesnít affect them.

I find life is much easier if you see stories like this and just adopt a Ďho humí attitude. If it doesnít affect you, move on.

Itís fair to say that my current work location does not hinder itself with such concern over pronouns. Neither do I expect they will in my lifetime. Ho hum.

BV
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 14:22
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Tut Tut, by infering we wear knickers, you are designating us all as either cross dressers or female...

Most of us, bar possibly Buster should be offended..
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 14:29
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Nutty

Since I am no longer in the military I can say what I like (Iíll avoid actually verbal abuse) and I therefore donít let the mooted RAF regulations bother me. And if I want to wear knickers, thatís my choice.

BV
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Having just shown this to the OH, we wonder how we survived our joint 55 years of RAF commissioned service without having complete mental breakdowns.

Thank the (*deity of choice) we are long since departed this current madhouse.
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I think somebody somewhere, plus a lot of Ppruners, needs to find out the etymology of man, (werman), (wifman) and woman
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Man
would be a good place to start. The use of man within words such as airmanship was not and is not incorrect IMHO.
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It's all a load of boll***s. (bollards)

As stated earlier in the thread, the Lunatics are running the Asylum.
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Isn't this about the Air Cadets and Gliding?
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Old 12th Sep 2023, 16:39
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Since I am no longer in the military I can say what I like (Iíll avoid actually verbal abuse) and I therefore donít let the mooted RAF regulations bother me. And if I want to wear knickers, thatís my choice.

BV
On your head too, if you want!
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It would be interesting if there was a response along the lines of this entire topic makes me feel uncomfortable as it doesnít align with my beliefs. My beliefs, are of course a protected characteristic under discrimination legislation, so I would ask that we refrain from any further orders which force me to act in a way contrary to my beliefs.

So what ya going to do then? Itís a perfectly reasonable response. And it would be entirely legal and in line with legislation to make it. Would
the RAF take it seriously or would they show their colours and confirm that they are a full inclusive employer right up to the point theyíre not. Useless white males need not reply.
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