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RAF Gender Neutrality Language-Really??

Old 14th Sep 2023, 16:20
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Will the changes be mandated?
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 17:59
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On his LinkedIn page the current Commandant RAFAC describes himself as "Managing Director Royal Air Force Air Cadets".

I presume he's working on getting his next job?
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 18:34
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Seriously: is there still such a thing as Batting? It had all but disappeared by the time I last warned out c. 1996.

Some of those high octane mugs of tea at 0630 would have wakened the dead ......... "2 sugars" but what size was the spoon, and how long had the brew been festering?
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 19:31
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Originally Posted by Dufo
There are two genders. The rest are psychiatric disorders and should be assessed as unfit to work/fly as with other similar conditions.
What he said :-)
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 21:05
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Originally Posted by 57mm
No more Wingman then?
Wingthing. You saw it here first....
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 21:09
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie
Well, what words are up for review?
Airmanship
Cockpit
Joystick
Male and female cannon plugs
?
-Best practice?
-Flight Deck?
-Control stick?
-Send/return or input/output (quite obvious really, no one uses male/female anymore)
and I suspect you aren’t talking about D-sub or XLRs but rather Circular connectors out of the different Canon types?
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 21:42
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Originally Posted by Dufo
There are two genders. The rest are psychiatric disorders and should be assessed as unfit to work/fly as with other similar conditions.
Just goes to show that there are still dinosaurs who disrespect those who have, and continue, to serve their country.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/...-kept-her-job/

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/people/ayla-holdom


Caroline Paige | Military Speakers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberta_Cowell

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Old 14th Sep 2023, 22:08
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He's not disrespecting them, he just had a different opinion to you. None of the people you linked to are still serving, they're still the odd ones out and always will be. I remember Caroline from the Puma det in Iraq, all my lads thought it was highly amusing. It's a subject that no-one likes to talk about properly, we are in the business of killing people whilst people are trying to kill us. Anyone, no matter how skilled or qualified, who is different from the team will be shunned. That's just how it is.
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 22:15
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Originally Posted by cheekychimp
Anyone, no matter how skilled or qualified, who is different from the team will be shunned. That's just how it is.
Interesting that the line was told to me almost verbatim by a Petty Officer to justify his attitude towards a Black sailor…..
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When in a hole, stop digging….
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 22:36
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Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever
Interesting that the line was told to me almost verbatim by a Petty Officer to justify his attitude towards a Black sailor…..
That's just someone trying to justify his own racism. What I'm describing is team dynamics, there are plenty of teams that have different races in them, it's about attitude and training.
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 22:40
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Originally Posted by ORAC
When in a hole, stop digging….
Who's in a hole? That was a random statement.
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 09:25
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I don't think you should say "hole"............

Originally Posted by Kraftstoffvondesibel
-Send/return or input/output (quite obvious really, no one uses male/female anymore).......
We still use 'male' and 'female' to describe connectors in television broadcasting land. Connectors do not always have pins pointing in the direction of 'flow'.

Video connector (BNC) leads have a male at each end and females on all the equipment. Same with RF leads; male N types on the cables, female N types on the equipment. This makes the leads more resilient, since the outer ring of the male connectors can survive being dragged along the ground when they are pulled back onto cable drums in the de-rig - whereas female connectors would quickly get their bare threads or locking pins buggered up doing that. So send or return cannot define those.

I suppose that on site in future, I will have to ask my colleague to pass me a "female BNC barrel identifying as female", instead of a "female BNC barrel", (but has the barrel had the operation yet)?

'pin' and 'socket' might suffice instead of 'male' and 'female', but I am going to get a lot of funny looks if I do that. And honestly do any engineers, (and there are female engineers), object? I will ask the next time I am working on an outside broadcast.
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 10:32
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Originally Posted by Uplinker
I don't think you should say "hole"............



We still use 'male' and 'female' to describe connectors in television broadcasting land. Connectors do not always have pins pointing in the direction of 'flow'.

Video connector (BNC) leads have a male at each end and females on all the equipment. Same with RF leads; male N types on the cables, female N types on the equipment. This makes the leads more resilient, since the outer ring of the male connectors can survive being dragged along the ground when they are pulled back onto cable drums in the de-rig - whereas female connectors would quickly get their bare threads or locking pins buggered up doing that. So send or return cannot define those.

I suppose that on site in future, I will have to ask my colleague to pass me a "female BNC barrel identifying as female", instead of a "female BNC barrel", (but has the barrel had the operation yet)?

'pin' and 'socket' might suffice instead of 'male' and 'female', but I am going to get a lot of funny looks if I do that. And honestly do any engineers, (and there are female engineers), object? I will ask the next time I am working on an outside broadcast.
So, if you attempted to place 2 female connectors together (of any description), would sparks fly?
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 12:06
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July 20th 1969: "One small step for a person, a giant leap for personkind" ... doesn't quite have the same ring to it.......
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Can't really see what is wrong with the term ""airmanship".... Seems widely understood....
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 15:03
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On the BBC Six O'clock news the other day, there was a piece about English cricketer Ben Stokes, who was referred to as a 'batter'.
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On the BBC Six O'clock news the other day, there was a piece about English cricketer Ben Stokes, who was referred to as a 'batter'.
Fanny or pancake?
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 15:55
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How about airhumanship, obviously the h+u would be silent?
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I am assuming the term 'Flaps' will no longer be used (apologies if this has already be covered). A 'dinosaur' of a QFI told me back in the early 90's that 'If women were meant to fly, they would have been born with their flaps on their arms'. Truly shocking behaviour.

Should the cockpit be referred to as the Box Office, or is that also sexist - I guess it is.

No more Flaps then, or HP cocks, or Knobs in the cockpit. Sad times
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