Ukraine War Thread Part 2
F-16 training set to begin near the end of August.
https://twitter.com/ZMiST_Ua/status/1692559274856112468
https://twitter.com/ZMiST_Ua/status/1692559274856112468
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Why is `osint` posting LAT/LONG POSITIONS fffFFS...????
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Washington Post: US intel says Ukraine will not achieve key offensive goal this year
Ukrainian troops are unlikely to be able to reach Melitopol due to extensive system of Russian minefields and trenchesNo Sh*t, and whose fault would that be….. Oh wait, Washingtons!
I firmly believed NATO was a multi national organisation not an extension of Americas power to bend and follow the will of sleepy Joe.
The one thing Russia recognises is strength and that’s been lacking from the west.
The whole effort IMHO has been an exercise in how not to support a war, it took other Countries to deliver tanks to get the US to commit and even then they still haven’t got their “game changer” (their words) M1A1, that i feel is no better than the latest versions of the Challenger / Leopard variants. Before that, heals were dragged over artillery, ammunition such as cluster and long range munitions etc.
And do not get me started on the current fiasco, the US berating the slow counter offensive, a counter offensive slowed by the intransigence of the US to supply the weapons needed, slowing the NATO supply by almost vetoing it, so much so that the supply of armour and tanks, modern fighters and the long range weapons requested have meant the counter offensive has been delayed, delays that have allowed Russia to amass supplies in Country and dig and prepare mined and well constructed defences, defences that Ukrainians are spilling their blood on and wouldn’t have been in place if the weapons requested were delivered when asked for. The they would not have had the prepared defences in place, the bridge would have been down and the Russians would have been on the run. In a way I feel the moment has passed.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Major fire at Novorossiysk, interested to know how it started…
The Novorossiysk 🇷🇺 Port’s cargo fire cannot be controlled.
It appears things are exploding (turn on audio).
I am betting soon we will learn that the 🇷🇺 military was transporting weapons from the port.
Russia's having a bad day. First a drone hits Moscow, then #Ukraine's flag raised over a Russian city & now its major Black Sea export & naval port of Novorossiysk is on fire - same place 🇺🇦 almost sunk a naval ship recently. Standby for more Medvedev drunken nuclear outrage 🤪.
The Novorossiysk 🇷🇺 Port’s cargo fire cannot be controlled.
It appears things are exploding (turn on audio).
I am betting soon we will learn that the 🇷🇺 military was transporting weapons from the port.
Russia's having a bad day. First a drone hits Moscow, then #Ukraine's flag raised over a Russian city & now its major Black Sea export & naval port of Novorossiysk is on fire - same place 🇺🇦 almost sunk a naval ship recently. Standby for more Medvedev drunken nuclear outrage 🤪.
Major fire at Novorossiysk, interested to know how it started…
The Novorossiysk 🇷🇺 Port’s cargo fire cannot be controlled.
It appears things are exploding (turn on audio).
I am betting soon we will learn that the 🇷🇺 military was transporting weapons from the port.
Russia's having a bad day. First a drone hits Moscow, then #Ukraine's flag raised over a Russian city & now its major Black Sea export & naval port of Novorossiysk is on fire - same place 🇺🇦 almost sunk a naval ship recently. Standby for more Medvedev drunken nuclear outrage 🤪.
The Novorossiysk 🇷🇺 Port’s cargo fire cannot be controlled.
It appears things are exploding (turn on audio).
I am betting soon we will learn that the 🇷🇺 military was transporting weapons from the port.
Russia's having a bad day. First a drone hits Moscow, then #Ukraine's flag raised over a Russian city & now its major Black Sea export & naval port of Novorossiysk is on fire - same place 🇺🇦 almost sunk a naval ship recently. Standby for more Medvedev drunken nuclear outrage 🤪.
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This is what I worry about, Russia is starting to ramp up production in all areas, the defences they have built are bleeding Ukraine dry, the counter offensive delays have increased those problems exponentially, gone are the times where Ukraine can rapidly advance from the likes of Kharkiv to Lyman. I do hope they can make a breakthrough and drop those damned bridges.
This is what I worry about, Russia is starting to ramp up production in all areas, the defences they have built are bleeding Ukraine dry, the counter offensive delays have increased those problems exponentially, gone are the times where Ukraine can rapidly advance from the likes of Kharkiv to Lyman. I do hope they can make a breakthrough and drop those damned bridges.
Ukraine does need more air defence capability against drones, they are taking out a lot of them, but they need more protection yet, and sure, RuSSia will continue with their program of attacking civilians, as they always do, so as targeting civilians deliberately is nowadays classified as a war crime, how about our own leaders getting serious about supporting Ukraine in defense of their civilian populations. RuSSia has no place at present in any international community organisation, the recent attack by a Wagner "soldier" committing murder on a train in RuSSia is an apt metaphor for Vlad and his minions, if the wholesale ransacking of the RuSSian sovereign wealth by him and his minions is added as an aside.
RuSSia's vector remains as before, Titanic like.
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Last edited by Winemaker; 19th Aug 2023 at 04:32. Reason: clarity
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the Russians plan to force residents of Russian occupied territories to join the armies of the Russian occupiers as combatants against the armies that fraught to oppose the invasion of the Russian occupiers. I'm getting really confused.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Video shows it to be from a drone strike - presumably based on good intel….
In occupied Energodar, there was an explosion in the building where the heads of the occupation police were meeting
As a result of the explosion, the so-called head of the city department, Colonel Pavel Chesanov of the Russian Interior Ministry, his "deputy" in charge of operational work, the "head" of the investigation department, the "head" of the duty unit and the "heads" of a number of departments were hospitalized.
The occupiers were evacuated by military helicopters to the territory of Russia. The building itself, which was used as a dormitory for law enforcers, was significantly destroyed from the 3rd to the 5th floors.
In occupied Energodar, there was an explosion in the building where the heads of the occupation police were meeting
As a result of the explosion, the so-called head of the city department, Colonel Pavel Chesanov of the Russian Interior Ministry, his "deputy" in charge of operational work, the "head" of the investigation department, the "head" of the duty unit and the "heads" of a number of departments were hospitalized.
The occupiers were evacuated by military helicopters to the territory of Russia. The building itself, which was used as a dormitory for law enforcers, was significantly destroyed from the 3rd to the 5th floors.
Close up view of the damage the sea drone caused to the vessel Sig. I've no expertise on ships but seems pretty bad.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/08/...oal-this-year/
No Sh*t, and whose fault would that be….. Oh wait, Washingtons!
I firmly believed NATO was a multi national organisation not an extension of Americas power to bend and follow the will of sleepy Joe.
No Sh*t, and whose fault would that be….. Oh wait, Washingtons!
I firmly believed NATO was a multi national organisation not an extension of Americas power to bend and follow the will of sleepy Joe.
From my own standpoint I do in fact share your opinions, but have to recognise that I am reacting to personal emotion and with no access to the kind of information that is needed to drive strategic policy influencing more than a billion people.
Ukraine needs the F16s, now. The F16s can take the fight behind the front lines and really tear up the rear and achieve aerial dominance. Without the F16s UKR is forced to slog yard and yard through prepared defences, which sttritionally speaking is the worse way to fight. UKR needs mobility and the ability to jump around and this is what the option the F16s provide. It's almost like watching Warsaw at the end of WW2 where Stalin deliberately delayed sending help just so the Poles and the Germans would wipe each out and he can walk into a city devoid of fighters, Static slogging favours the Russians not the Ukrainians,
Usual caveats:
"The head of the SBU, Gen. Vasily Malyuk, just released a bit of extra information about the Ukrainian VBIED attack targeting the Crimean Bridge last year. In total, 21 tons of RDX high explosive was plastic wrapped in palletized cylinders to avoid detection."
"The head of the SBU, Gen. Vasily Malyuk, just released a bit of extra information about the Ukrainian VBIED attack targeting the Crimean Bridge last year. In total, 21 tons of RDX high explosive was plastic wrapped in palletized cylinders to avoid detection."
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