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Old 4th Jul 2023, 14:18
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Originally Posted by FUMR
Surely, Russians going on holiday to the Crimea must be an indication that they just don't have a clue about the real situation. I do think that it is time for UAF to update them!
They may be looking forward to seeing some more photos of S-400 installations !

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Hmmmm, I thought there was an issue with the Crimean water supply. How will they bathe all these tourists?
There were reports that the Russians had been filling reservoirs to the maximum over past months pre-dam-explosion: whether it will be enough for everyone, no idea.
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Old 4th Jul 2023, 14:39
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Many thousands of tourists all running home with tales of bombardment and destruction is a wonderful way to spread the news among their sceptical friends and neighbours.
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Originally Posted by meleagertoo
Many thousands of tourists all running home with tales of bombardment and destruction is a wonderful way to spread the news among their sceptical friends and neighbours.
That happened last year, but it hasn't deterred them it seems!
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Russian channels claim that tomorrow evening, Ukraine will launch a missile and drone attack on the Zaporizhzia Nuclear Power Plant. While simultaneously dropping munition from an aircraft filled with radioactive material. The backup plan is a Tochka-U filled with radiactive substances.

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Old 4th Jul 2023, 16:33
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I imagine there will be a great deal of surveillance of the site then ORAC. I don't think even a signal would get there without its source being known. Still alarming.
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With that downed Storm Shadow:
Why not put a few GPS or other form tracking device (on an encrypted signal), inside these missiles?
Would only need to be the size of a box of matches.
Only needs a battery life of 12/24hrs max. Once it's seen as not moving then send a Himars or one of those GPS cord 155mm's in if the tech is that secret?
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Originally Posted by bugged on the right
I imagine there will be a great deal of surveillance of the site then ORAC. I don't think even a signal would get there without its source being known. Still alarming.
Winds are bad news for Europe ........ opportune time for some very foolish wickedness.

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Originally Posted by Obba
With that downed Storm Shadow:
Why not put a few GPS or other form tracking device (on an encrypted signal), inside these missiles?
Would only need to be the size of a box of matches.
Only needs a battery life of 12/24hrs max. Once it's seen as not moving then send a Himars or one of those GPS cord 155mm's in if the tech is that secret?
If Himars or the 155's could fire that far (although we don't know where it was downed ) then they probably wouldn't be using Storm Shadow.
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From intelcrab

Ukrainian intelligence now believes that Russian occupants at the Zaporizhzhia NPP have placed explosives on the roofs of reactors 3 and 4. Site was disconnected from the main voltage line feeding the facility sometime overnight and is now running on an auxiliary input.
​​​​​​​Russians evacuating the area surrounding too. You know what this could mean.
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Bugger

Russians have pulled back their forces and abandoned security checkpoints around power plant. It's safe to say russian nuclear terror attack is a go.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/30/7409231/

​​​​​​​The Russian invaders have begun to gradually leave the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP), and some ZNPP employees have also been instructed to leave the plant by 5 July, the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) reports.

Source: DIU on Telegram

Quote: "The latest data indicates that the occupying forces are gradually leaving the territory of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant. Three employees of Rosatom [a Russian state corporation specialising in nuclear energy], who led the Russians' actions, were among the first to leave the facility.

Ukrainian employees who have signed a contract with Rosatom have also been advised to evacuate. Under the instructions received, they should leave by 5 July."
Details: The Russians advise leaving for temporarily occupied Crimea.

Intelligence reports that the head of the legal department, Mantsurova, chief inspector Shtatsky and deputy head of the station for support, Gubarev, have already left for the peninsula.

The DIU also emphasises that the number of military patrols at the ZNPP and in the satellite city of Enerhodar is gradually decreasing.
​​​​​​​Meanwhile, intelligence reports that the Russian occupiers have instructed the personnel who remain at the station to "blame Ukraine in the event of any emergency".
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Russian channels claim that tomorrow evening, Ukraine will launch a missile and drone attack on the Zaporizhzia Nuclear Power Plant. While simultaneously dropping munition from an aircraft filled with radioactive material. The backup plan is a Tochka-U filled with radiactive substances.

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I wonder if the Chinese have been having serious discussions with Putin about this. A stern word from them would carry a lot of weight.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
Winds are bad news for Europe ........ opportune time for some very foolish wickedness.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#2023/0...=-3.773,24.115
At the moment we have SW winds. On the map you provide I see mainly SW winds. I'm no expert so I'm puzzled as to why that threatens Europe.
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What a lame response, what he should be saying is it will automatically trigger article 5

The possible undermining of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant by Russian troops will affect the whole world and affect Europe. This was stated by the head of the NATO Military Committee, Rob Bauer, in an interview with the LBC channel. “If this happens, then this is a much more serious problem than just a military problem or something just for NATO. This is something that the whole world will be involved in, this will have a large impact on Europe” - said the head of the NATO Military Committee.
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Russian and Ukrainian Sources are continuing to claim that some kind of “Provocation” at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant is going to occur sometime in the next 24-48 hours with Ukrainian Officials stating that Russian Forces have placed Explosives in 3 of the 6 Power Units with “New Devices” having been observed on the Roof of the Cooling Unit; Russian Sources are also now stating that Ukrainian Forces will carrying out on Operation on the Plant tonight utilizing High-Precision Missiles and “Kamikaze” Attack Drones.
​​​​​​​Renat Karchaa, “advisor” to Russia's Rosatom, who claims that Ukraine is going to attack Zap nuclear power plant tonight, is the same guy who showed the first IAEA mission to Zaporizhzhia how “Ukrainian” missile hit the ground and then turned around.
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Old 4th Jul 2023, 21:02
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Originally Posted by FUMR
At the moment we have SW winds. On the map you provide I see mainly SW winds. I'm no expert so I'm puzzled as to why that threatens Europe.
Apologies: I am not very good with the technology. As I read tomorroe 850 mb flow is definitely from the east over the area, and not strong.
I will try the link again, but apologies again if wrong.
Meanwhile I will hunt other sources.

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Chuck Pfarrer:

ZAPORIZHZHIA NUCLEAR PLANT /2000 UTC 4 JUL/ UKR's Defense Intelligence service has information of a planned Russian provocation at the occupied Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Plant. Sources indicate that Russian troops have emplaced demolition charges within reactor containment structures.
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Old 4th Jul 2023, 21:10
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Originally Posted by FUMR
At the moment we have SW winds. On the map you provide I see mainly SW winds. I'm no expert so I'm puzzled as to why that threatens Europe.
UK Met Office has light low level easterliesfor Ukr tomorrow. Perhaps Putin has listened to his fir cone, seaweed and crystal ball risk taker.

Let us hope we do not wake to extreme wickedness to add to all the mountain of evil.
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Old 4th Jul 2023, 21:13
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What a lame response, what he should be saying is it will automatically trigger article 5
I don't think it's within the head of NATO's job description to up the ante in a crisis situation; that's for heads of State. IMO he went as far as he could go.

I would expect that if there are radiation releases from Russia's coming actions, there will be fundamental changes in western policy; these changes may involve NATO action, But even in the case of NATO action, it might be better to leave article 5 as a future option going forward.
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Chuck Pfarrer:

2nd ORDER EFFECTS: Russia’s sabotage of the Kakhovka dam has almost completely drained the Dnipro reservoir. As the exposed riparian terrain is baked by the sun, it will provide a multitude of crossing points for Ukrainian forces. This unintended consequence will make it difficult for RU to defend the occupied south bank.


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