"Russian jet collides with US drone over Black Sea"
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I can’t imagine that the Flanker pilot would have been intending to collide. But to fly on a collision course with a high rate closure and rely on a last second break away while belly-up to the target…. that’s gross ineptitude. They wouldn’t last a minute in a shooting match. I hope Putin realises that.
Not clever thinking and both inept and bloody dangerous for the Flanker drivers. I'd not like to risk hitting something the size of that drone. Sheer luck the Flanker wasn't also brought down.
How did the fighter strike the prop disc without taking out the tailplane which is considerably higher?
Why all the fuss?
The western world wasn't as outraged when American military shot down an Airbus killing 290 people, hypocrisy?
Why all the fuss?
The western world wasn't as outraged when American military shot down an Airbus killing 290 people, hypocrisy?
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As for the first part, I'm sure if you are particularly talented you could fit either the end of the tail cone, or an underside stabiliser through that little gap. Are you related to one of the pilots?
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Having reviewed the footage I think it was `cock up` by the Russian pilots behaviour that brought down the drone.
I believe he was trying to bring it down but his closure rate was way too fast. Hew tried to go belly up and over the drone while covering it in fuel and actually hit it. btw are we certain that's fuel and not just the Russian adding power?
As others have said shame the Russian wasn't brought down. I suspect it just touched.
I believe he was trying to bring it down but his closure rate was way too fast. Hew tried to go belly up and over the drone while covering it in fuel and actually hit it. btw are we certain that's fuel and not just the Russian adding power?
As others have said shame the Russian wasn't brought down. I suspect it just touched.
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Trying not to get political, start a flame war or drag this thread too far off topic I do agree that we have in the past been very nationality centric.
Like that old "Not The Nine O'clock News" joke. An airliner crashed today and the fatalities in order of importance were two Brits, three Americans and a Belgium but his accent wasn't very good.
We have in the past thought of foreigners as not as important as us. I think that attitude is changing but it is still there.
It might have been in international air space but it was also right in their back yard so hardly surprising. Wester leaders are constantly banging their drums now and declaring that China and Russia want to end the 'rule based order' so why be so surprised when they show scant regard for an autonomous vehicle that was almost certainly aiding their enemy and operating only a short distance outside the 12nm boundary of their airspace, or maybe even inside it?
If American tax payers are really worried about the lose of a vehicle that is 0.0009% of their annual defence budget then maybe they should not be operating military equipment a fraction outside of the 12nm territorial border and 6000+ miles away from America.
End of the day it was a drone, and if Biden is calling it out as 'Environmentally unsound' then I would suggest they don't really give a toss, so neither should we.
If American tax payers are really worried about the lose of a vehicle that is 0.0009% of their annual defence budget then maybe they should not be operating military equipment a fraction outside of the 12nm territorial border and 6000+ miles away from America.
End of the day it was a drone, and if Biden is calling it out as 'Environmentally unsound' then I would suggest they don't really give a toss, so neither should we.
So the next time Russia comes anywhere near UK airspace can we just them shoot down.
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Having reviewed the footage I think it was `cock up` by the Russian pilots behaviour that brought down the drone.
I believe he was trying to bring it down but his closure rate was way too fast. Hew tried to go belly up and over the drone while covering it in fuel and actually hit it. btw are we certain that's fuel and not just the Russian adding power?
As others have said shame the Russian wasn't brought down. I suspect it just touched.
I believe he was trying to bring it down but his closure rate was way too fast. Hew tried to go belly up and over the drone while covering it in fuel and actually hit it. btw are we certain that's fuel and not just the Russian adding power?
As others have said shame the Russian wasn't brought down. I suspect it just touched.
I've seen it happen when watching a jet dragster so it can happen.
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When you see the first pass, in the distance you can see his wingman turning in, I do wonder if he was the one that hit it and had problems with the first aircrafts fuel dump, so used a slightly different lower and closer approach?
stop Russia doing it.
Twice in two separate passes? What a coincidence.
The US has given few press briefings and that’s it.
The media are making more of it than anyone else.
I would guess that more than one US official said something along the lines of “well that took longer than we expected” when first hearing the news.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Why all the fuss?
The western world wasn't as outraged when American military shot down an Airbus killing 290 people, hypocrisy?
The western world wasn't as outraged when American military shot down an Airbus killing 290 people, hypocrisy?
No one is overexcited about the USAF losing another MQ-9 than when they lost their previous 4.
What has got people worried is the fear of the USA/NATO getting directly involved in a shooting war with Russia - whether it’s their shooting down a NATO drone or being arrested conducting recce/sabotage on Polish territory*
* https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64971691
Not the first time a Flanker pilot has botched a close pass..
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No way does an SU27 have a fuel dumping capability. What fighter does?
They have drop tanks they can drop, which make up a combination of 4.5t hardpoints that can be dropped if required.
The fuel dump is a diplomatic face saving exercise. Most Joe Punters think every aircraft can dump fuel.
They have drop tanks they can drop, which make up a combination of 4.5t hardpoints that can be dropped if required.
The fuel dump is a diplomatic face saving exercise. Most Joe Punters think every aircraft can dump fuel.
The video has been released
The newly declassified video has been edited for length, running 43 seconds. As expected, the footage is from the MTS-B sensor ball below the nose of the MQ-9, which was looking behind the drone as the Su-27 approached it. Approaching from the right-hand rear quarter, the Russian fighter begins dumping fuel, which U.S. officials had already said was one of the more aggressive maneuvers performed by the jet.
The newly declassified video has been edited for length, running 43 seconds. As expected, the footage is from the MTS-B sensor ball below the nose of the MQ-9, which was looking behind the drone as the Su-27 approached it. Approaching from the right-hand rear quarter, the Russian fighter begins dumping fuel, which U.S. officials had already said was one of the more aggressive maneuvers performed by the jet.
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