"Russian jet collides with US drone over Black Sea"
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Its just been opened.
Your first point, there is 100% no way the US is going to “provide AD cover” in a conflict they aren’t in, and against a nuclear power. If they send any ships it will be a lightly armoured, defensive platform rather than An offensive platform. Remember this is a proxy fight. Not something anyone (even the Russians) want turning hot.
Your first point, there is 100% no way the US is going to “provide AD cover” in a conflict they aren’t in, and against a nuclear power. If they send any ships it will be a lightly armoured, defensive platform rather than An offensive platform. Remember this is a proxy fight. Not something anyone (even the Russians) want turning hot.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Having received the offer from Turkey it would be militarily and politically impolite to refuse.
And you don’t send someone with a knife to a gunfight.
And you don’t send someone with a knife to a gunfight.
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In the second pass, the Aircraft was at a high angle of dangle, so lost sight of the UAV and if you watch the clip, the UAV hud shows it initiates a turn into the path of the SU 27 so contact was made. The pilot with it in his blind spot wouldn’t see it.
Watch it frame by frame and follow the N for North.
Watch it frame by frame and follow the N for North.
Just noticed this difference in the airspace interpretation west of Crimea.
From the BBC, Video shows moment Russian fighter jet hits US drone over Black Sea - BBC News
Russian Ambassador to the US Anatoly Antonov said the drone had "violated boundaries of the temporary airspace regime established for the special military operation".
But Mr Kirby said the airspace was international and not restricted.
From the BBC, Video shows moment Russian fighter jet hits US drone over Black Sea - BBC News
Russian Ambassador to the US Anatoly Antonov said the drone had "violated boundaries of the temporary airspace regime established for the special military operation".
But Mr Kirby said the airspace was international and not restricted.
Its always been opened it only closed to warships of the combatants, Ukraine and Russia. Other countries entry only restricted by the Montrouex agreement, which limits how many times a specifics countrie that is not a black sea power can enter the black sea and for how long.
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Few of us were aware that the USA is somehow restraining or holding Ukraine back, so in what sense could they ever "let them loose"?
Pot-kettle chum, and in spades as Nick H's error - such as it was - was clearly no more than a single misplaced finger on a keyboard aka a typo and not apparently an absolutely cringe-worthy third-grade linguistic howler.
I'll refrain from commenting on your dogmatic 'appraisal' of America's tactical intentions and especially your extraordinarily self-contradictory comments on the nature of the conflict, but added to further multiple errors in punctuation and a random capital letter this all merely adds to the altogether thoroughly third-grade impression.
ps you did intend to say "let them lose", didn't you? Please tell us you don't really think the USA is holding Ukraine back on a leash?
...do you?
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Your first point, there is 100% no way the US is going to “provide AD cover” in a conflict they aren’t in,
The only thing that would change is the means of doing so.
https://www.itamilradar.com/2022/10/...d-by-typhoons/
Typhoons is are now regularly seen on patrol over the Black Sea when RAF ISR flights are in the area.
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Volcanic ash dispensed into the propwash could make such maneuvers hard on turbine engine components with a high degree of deniability
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Russia worried of repercussions? But hang on, surely that is exactly what they have done.
Both pilots have been given medals. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ne-2023-03-17/ The official story is that they intercepted it without hitting it. It crashed because the operator lost control.