Moskva down
Sevastopol is reminiscent of Pearl.... nice line up of tubs set a little away from civilians
Admiral Grigorovich/Krivak IV 's x 2, 2 x Krivak's
Ropucha and... Tapir/Alligator
Ropucha
Udaloy
This Kilo (B-871 or B-271?) looks like it isn't going anywhere at present... wonder when th happy snap was taken, she was supposed to be back growing barnacles in Dec 21.
Nicely lined up. So, how far does the R-360 reach out?
Admiral Grigorovich/Krivak IV 's x 2, 2 x Krivak's
Ropucha and... Tapir/Alligator
Ropucha
Udaloy
This Kilo (B-871 or B-271?) looks like it isn't going anywhere at present... wonder when th happy snap was taken, she was supposed to be back growing barnacles in Dec 21.
Nicely lined up. So, how far does the R-360 reach out?
How old are those shots? Looks the same as GoogleEarth pictures.
It’s ok though, they have Flipper and co defending them now. I’d like to see a Neptune get through that!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...olphins-crimea
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...olphins-crimea
I've heard the clam that Moskva had her radars in the stowed position in the images just before her capsizing. Is anyone on here able to comment on that?
The suggestion being that she was not able to detect incoming threats or respond to them.
The suggestion being that she was not able to detect incoming threats or respond to them.
It is difficult to see any of the other radars, search or fire control, due to the smoke but what is clear is that the port SA-N-4 pop-up launcher was not deployed.
That would leave anti-missile defence to the CIWS so it would be interesting to see the disposition of the Bass Tilt fire control radars for the those guns. Neither of those radars is visible in any of the pictures I've seen.
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Speaking about the radars, when viewing the configuration (before the destroy action), I somewhat get the impression, these radars do not have a free 360 view. Maybe a free view for targets coming from higher up, though below 30 degrees with the horizon, the super structure seems to block the free view in some directions, including to the front.
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Seems another Russian naval asset has been hit.
"Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate of the Russian Navy Black Sea Fleet is reportedly on fire near Zmiiny island in Black Sea. Rescue operation ongoing, multiple aircraft, rescue vessels in the area "
Sorry can't post links yet.
"Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate of the Russian Navy Black Sea Fleet is reportedly on fire near Zmiiny island in Black Sea. Rescue operation ongoing, multiple aircraft, rescue vessels in the area "
Sorry can't post links yet.
Backgrounder of what is "juiciest" left and capabilities left.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=4335297174d5
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=4335297174d5
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This was doing the rounds about 12 hours ago but hasn't been confirmed/denied. I did find this on Telegram so usual caveats apply:
"A Russian frigate is burning near Zmiiny. "The Neptune missiles hit the Admiral Makarov frigate," said People's Deputy Goncharenko. There is no other confirmation yet."
If true it might explain why there was a RAF Rivet Joint south of Crimea.
"A Russian frigate is burning near Zmiiny. "The Neptune missiles hit the Admiral Makarov frigate," said People's Deputy Goncharenko. There is no other confirmation yet."
If true it might explain why there was a RAF Rivet Joint south of Crimea.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Frigate reported burning off Zmliny (Snake) Island.
Rescue operations reported under way.
Rescue operations reported under way.
If true, will be interesting to hear what caused the fire.
Various reports in the Western media that the US provided intelligence contributing to the sinking of Moskva, but of course that can't be true because we all know it was an ammunition fire.
Various reports in the Western media that the US provided intelligence contributing to the sinking of Moskva, but of course that can't be true because we all know it was an ammunition fire.
Reportedly video of frigate Admiral Makarov on fire. No sign of any rescue boats
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For a modern ship taken out and on fire it appears to have good protection from a missile attack
posted on Twitter, I wonder if the island masked it approach?
posted on Twitter, I wonder if the island masked it approach?
4/ Per Wiki, Admiral Makarov and sisters have 24 surface-to-air missiles and 2 × AK-630 CIWS, which are automated 6-barrel 30mm Gatling guns. If these ships are air defense vessels, they're not doing much good by Snake Island. What am I missing?