Moskva down

[fdr]

Sevastopol is reminiscent of Pearl.... nice line up of tubs set a little away from civilians


Admiral Grigorovich/Krivak IV 's x 2, 2 x Krivak's







Ropucha and... Tapir/Alligator



Ropucha





Udaloy






This Kilo (B-871 or B-271?) looks like it isn't going anywhere at present... wonder when th happy snap was taken, she was supposed to be back growing barnacles in Dec 21.



Nicely lined up. So, how far does the R-360 reach out?

[Ninthace]

How old are those shots? Looks the same as GoogleEarth pictures.

[golder]

Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc

It’s ok though, they have Flipper and co defending them now. I’d like to see a Neptune get through that!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...olphins-crimea

What? No sharks with 'frickin lasers'?

You Tube

[fdr]

Originally Posted by Ninthace

How old are those shots? Looks the same as GoogleEarth pictures.

they are 2022, from GE...

these however, are every 60 minutes... and just commercial

[Kent Based]

I've heard the clam that Moskva had her radars in the stowed position in the images just before her capsizing. Is anyone on here able to comment on that?
The suggestion being that she was not able to detect incoming threats or respond to them.

[MickG0105]

Originally Posted by Kent Based

I've heard the clam that Moskva had her radars in the stowed position in the images just before her capsizing. Is anyone on here able to comment on that?
The suggestion being that she was not able to detect incoming threats or respond to them.

The pictures taken from the recovery vessel show the Top Dome fire control radar (the ice cream cone on the helo hangar roof) for the SA-N-6 missiles was slewed astern in the usual transit position. Having noted that, given the likely detection range of the incoming missiles and the reaction time for the SA-N-6 it is unlikely that it not being in play would have been critical.

It is difficult to see any of the other radars, search or fire control, due to the smoke but what is clear is that the port SA-N-4 pop-up launcher was not deployed.

That would leave anti-missile defence to the CIWS so it would be interesting to see the disposition of the Bass Tilt fire control radars for the those guns. Neither of those radars is visible in any of the pictures I've seen.

[WideScreen]

Speaking about the radars, when viewing the configuration (before the destroy action), I somewhat get the impression, these radars do not have a free 360 view. Maybe a free view for targets coming from higher up, though below 30 degrees with the horizon, the super structure seems to block the free view in some directions, including to the front.

[vinbaverb]

That doesn't look like an Udaloy.. More likely a modified Kashin class destroyer

[MickG0105]

Originally Posted by vinbaverb

That doesn't look like an Udaloy.. More likely a modified Kashin class destroyer

Yes, it's definitely a Kashin, the 2 x 2 quad funnel configuration is a dead give away. It's almost certainly the Project 01090 modernised-Kashin Smetlivy. She's a museum ship.

[uxb99]

Seems another Russian naval asset has been hit.
"Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate of the Russian Navy Black Sea Fleet is reportedly on fire near Zmiiny island in Black Sea. Rescue operation ongoing, multiple aircraft, rescue vessels in the area "
Sorry can't post links yet.

[Less Hair]

Backgrounder of what is "juiciest" left and capabilities left.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=4335297174d5

[Wokkafans]

This was doing the rounds about 12 hours ago but hasn't been confirmed/denied. I did find this on Telegram so usual caveats apply:

"A Russian frigate is burning near Zmiiny. "The Neptune missiles hit the Admiral Makarov frigate," said People's Deputy Goncharenko. There is no other confirmation yet."

If true it might explain why there was a RAF Rivet Joint south of Crimea.

Twitter

Twitter

[ORAC]

Frigate reported burning off Zmliny (Snake) Island.

Rescue operations reported under way.

https://twitter.com/liveuamap/status...80xdxrXfhhX6gA

[pasta]

If true, will be interesting to hear what caused the fire.

Various reports in the Western media that the US provided intelligence contributing to the sinking of Moskva, but of course that can't be true because we all know it was an ammunition fire.

[dead_pan]

Originally Posted by pasta

If true, will be interesting to hear what caused the fire.

Various reports in the Western media that the US provided intelligence contributing to the sinking of Moskva, but of course that can't be true because we all know it was an ammunition fire.

Given how frequently - and readily - every military-related installation seems to spontaneously combust across Russia, one might wonder if they've angered their God?

[WB627]

Reportedly video of frigate Admiral Makarov on fire. No sign of any rescue boats

Twitter

[dead_pan]

Originally Posted by WB627

Reportedly video of frigate Admiral Makarov on fire. No sign of any rescue boats

That looks fake to me

[SpazSinbad]

Warship Moskva was Blind to Ukrainian Missile Attack, Analysis Shows - USNI News 05 May 2022

[NutLoose]

For a modern ship taken out and on fire it appears to have good protection from a missile attack
posted on Twitter, I wonder if the island masked it approach?

4/ Per Wiki, Admiral Makarov and sisters have 24 surface-to-air missiles and 2 × AK-630 CIWS, which are automated 6-barrel 30mm Gatling guns. If these ships are air defense vessels, they're not doing much good by Snake Island. What am I missing?

[albatross]

Originally Posted by dead_pan

Given how frequently - and readily - every military-related installation seems to spontaneously combust across Russia, one might wonder if they've angered their God?

Could these fires be caused by a Russian Resistance group formed as the enormity of the losses during the botched invasion became apparent? ….oops correction for “invasion” read “Military Operation” or whatever buzzword they are using at the moment for operation “Pig Lipstick”.