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Old 17th Apr 2022, 23:16
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ProvIding targeting data is an act of war.
hello cupcake,

I take it you’re new to warfare?
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Old 17th Apr 2022, 23:30
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Originally Posted by Sailvi767 View Post
ProvIding targeting data is an act of war.
They didn't need western targetting data, they could easily get if from the TB2 that was acting as bait

If they were going to help and I dont believe they would even consider it. They would have put up some F-18G's and disrupted the moskva's radars and electronics. Because that is totaly NOT an act of war according to russians because they 'claim' they did it donald cook in 2018
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Old 17th Apr 2022, 23:33
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President Zelensky promoted Navy Commander Oleksii Neizhpapa to vice-admiral.

An adviser to Zelensky's chief of staff said the decision made for “conducting a brilliant operation everyone already knows about.”
Wonder why ?
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Old 17th Apr 2022, 23:38
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First possible shots of the moskva

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Old 17th Apr 2022, 23:45
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And another, they did mention some had flown off and the heli deck doors are open.


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Old 17th Apr 2022, 23:56
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Defo the Moskva unless another Slava class has been lost and nobody knows about it. The one in Ukraine which is not finished does not have the crane in front of the S-300 Launchers.
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 00:45
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A few higher resolution shots of the Moskva:

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Old 18th Apr 2022, 00:55
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Originally Posted by Smalahove View Post
And I'll bet those dumb Russkis haven't thought of that...

The road and rail cross each other at least 3 times on.bridges and there is a long section where they run parallel. Just saying.
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 00:55
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And a close-up:

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Old 18th Apr 2022, 00:57
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Originally Posted by MikeSnow View Post
A few higher resolution shots of the Moskva:

https://twitter.com/Battlesstations/...35100591710210
That would appear to be seriously bent.
Still power to the fire pumps though.
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 01:02
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More info and damage pics here:

H I Sutton - Covert Shores
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 03:09
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Better days, photographed from the roof of our Istanbul hotel.


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Old 18th Apr 2022, 03:12
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The damage shown is consistent with the Ukrainian account of the incident. BZ
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Old 18th Apr 2022, 03:54
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Originally Posted by Ninthace View Post
That would appear to be seriously bent.
Still power to the fire pumps though.
those aren’t her pumps running - there’s a rescue boat on her starboard side - you can tell by the ship’s mast in the background.

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Old 18th Apr 2022, 04:44
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That would appear to be seriously bent.
Still power to the fire pumps though.
Okay - did a bit of research. It looks like, in the pictures above, the rescue tug Shakhter is on site and providing firefighting support for Moskva -on her starboard side. The Project 712 - Shakhter (SB-922) is part of the Black Sea Fleet - out of Sevastopol. She was in port a couple days ago. Masts, stack, and hoses / water canons match perfectly.






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Old 18th Apr 2022, 05:09
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Photos of cruiser Moskva:

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Old 18th Apr 2022, 05:13
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Were the pics taken before the "'stormy weather"?

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Old 18th Apr 2022, 05:17
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Is the apparent red coloring of the deck associated with whatever is coming out of the fire hoses?


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Old 18th Apr 2022, 05:58
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Originally Posted by WillFlyForCheese View Post
Okay - did a bit of research. It looks like, in the pictures above, the rescue tug Shakhter is on site and providing firefighting support for Moskva -on her starboard side. The Project 712 - Shakhter (SB-922) is part of the Black Sea Fleet - out of Sevastopol. She was in port a couple days ago. Masts, stack, and hoses / water canons match perfectly.




Good effort in your research, WFFC.

There's gonna be a fairly high toll of the CIC team and others in that area north of the machinery spaces, but there should have been a recovery of much of the crew at least from the tub, how they will fare at Lefortovo is another matter. Russia is pretty tough on those that have dared to be survivors.... K-219, K-19 K429, etc...



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