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I know, I know, and I’m sorry. I obviously forgot it was a Rumour network. All good mate. Im pretty sure that the ole Nuke site is out of bounds, probably out the front of that base though, May be what they recommended? That said, if the rain keeps up they could put it in Katoomba.


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"Navy recomended sydney"
Some thing s never change - there was tremendous reluctance of in the RN to relocating to Scapa Flow from the Firth of Forth (Edinburgh) pre WW1 largely on social grounds
and of course the DNS/DE&S organisation designing warships was in Bath - very nice to live but about as far away from a major shipyard as it was possible to get.
Some thing s never change - there was tremendous reluctance of in the RN to relocating to Scapa Flow from the Firth of Forth (Edinburgh) pre WW1 largely on social grounds
and of course the DNS/DE&S organisation designing warships was in Bath - very nice to live but about as far away from a major shipyard as it was possible to get.

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As doors off said, it's shallow. Brisbane has the Great Barrier Reef. A sub base needs deep water off shore and a wide arc of travel. It looks like, built in Adelaide, a sub base near Perth and a sub base near Sydney. Sydney will fix manning issues.

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I don’t think the Barrier Reef would affect operations out of Brisbane as it ends further North.
The advantage of a Brisbane base (compared to Sydney or Port Kembla) is that it would mean 4 additional days on station per operational deployment (saving 2 transit days each way).
With an election looming, they are leaking information about this bit by bit to stay in the headlines.
New East coast nuclear submarine base to be established
The advantage of a Brisbane base (compared to Sydney or Port Kembla) is that it would mean 4 additional days on station per operational deployment (saving 2 transit days each way).
With an election looming, they are leaking information about this bit by bit to stay in the headlines.
New East coast nuclear submarine base to be established
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I don’t think the Barrier Reef would affect operations out of Brisbane as it ends further North.
The advantage of a Brisbane base (compared to Sydney or Port Kembla) is that it would mean 4 additional days on station per operational deployment (saving 2 transit days each way).
With an election looming, they are leaking information about this bit by bit to stay in the headlines.
New East coast nuclear submarine base to be established
The advantage of a Brisbane base (compared to Sydney or Port Kembla) is that it would mean 4 additional days on station per operational deployment (saving 2 transit days each way).
With an election looming, they are leaking information about this bit by bit to stay in the headlines.
New East coast nuclear submarine base to be established



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From: With the Wizard
"Navy recomended sydney"
Some thing s never change - there was tremendous reluctance of in the RN to relocating to Scapa Flow from the Firth of Forth (Edinburgh) pre WW1 largely on social grounds
and of course the DNS/DE&S organisation designing warships was in Bath - very nice to live but about as far away from a major shipyard as it was possible to get.
Some thing s never change - there was tremendous reluctance of in the RN to relocating to Scapa Flow from the Firth of Forth (Edinburgh) pre WW1 largely on social grounds
and of course the DNS/DE&S organisation designing warships was in Bath - very nice to live but about as far away from a major shipyard as it was possible to get.
Gne


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From: A better place.
Well there you go - there's a much more fundamental problem with basing the subs in Brisbane.
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-bay-australia
Note to Australian Government - deployment of jellyfish as a weapon of mass destruction may be a viable option!
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-bay-australia
Note to Australian Government - deployment of jellyfish as a weapon of mass destruction may be a viable option!


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From: Australia OZ
Yeah the JELLY wobblies around Brissie can be a worry. Jervis Bay is a marine national park these days: jervis bay marine park map - Google Search
Meanwhile: Report to Congress on AUKUS Nuclear Cooperation 16 Mar 2022
https://news.usni.org/2022/03/16/rep...ar-cooperation
CRS PDF: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documen...ch-11-2022.pdf (0.2Mb)
Meanwhile: Report to Congress on AUKUS Nuclear Cooperation 16 Mar 2022
https://news.usni.org/2022/03/16/rep...ar-cooperation
CRS PDF: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documen...ch-11-2022.pdf (0.2Mb)

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Despite a lot of “experts” saying that it is unlikely for the nuclear powered submarines to be built in Australia, the Federal Government seems determined and is pushing ahead with significant expansion of ASC Submarine construction infrastructure. They have just secured a very large parcel of land (45 hectares) adjacent to ASC North to facilitate this expansion.
Sky News interview with Simon Birmingham

Land leased for ASC expansion
Defence Connect article about the land acquisition
Sky News interview with Simon Birmingham

Land leased for ASC expansion
Defence Connect article about the land acquisition
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On Friday April 1st (today) :
"Is it true that australian taxpayers will have to pay 5,5 billions australian dollars for non-existent submarines ? " asked Senator Penny Wong (opposition leader) at Canberra.
"It will be something like that" did answer Defense Secretary Tony Dalton
Sort of cancellation fees.
"Is it true that australian taxpayers will have to pay 5,5 billions australian dollars for non-existent submarines ? " asked Senator Penny Wong (opposition leader) at Canberra.
"It will be something like that" did answer Defense Secretary Tony Dalton
Sort of cancellation fees.

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On Friday April 1st (today) :
"Is it true that australian taxpayers will have to pay 5,5 billions australian dollars for non-existent submarines ? " asked Senator Penny Wong (opposition leader) at Canberra.
"It will be something like that" did answer Defense Secretary Tony Dalton
Sort of cancellation fees.
"Is it true that australian taxpayers will have to pay 5,5 billions australian dollars for non-existent submarines ? " asked Senator Penny Wong (opposition leader) at Canberra.
"It will be something like that" did answer Defense Secretary Tony Dalton
Sort of cancellation fees.
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From: Noumea
Customer changing his mind after signing the deal = not the fault of the seller/manufacturer = cancellation fee. But they can do what they want with their taxpayers' money (they probably have too much of it)
" Leak Reveals First Details Of Australia’s New AUKUS Submarine "
(Naval news, April 1st)
Australians expecting that their Navy will get Virginia or Astute class nuclear submarines have had their hopes dashed. Documents reveal that the go-forward AUKUS design will be based on an enlarged Collins Class submarine. The new class of submarine will be almost as large as the French Barracuda design (or in other words…. smaller)
" Leak Reveals First Details Of Australia’s New AUKUS Submarine "
(Naval news, April 1st)
Australians expecting that their Navy will get Virginia or Astute class nuclear submarines have had their hopes dashed. Documents reveal that the go-forward AUKUS design will be based on an enlarged Collins Class submarine. The new class of submarine will be almost as large as the French Barracuda design (or in other words…. smaller)



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Leak Reveals First Details Of Australia’s New AUKUS Submarine "
(Naval news, April 1st)
Australians expecting that their Navy will get Virginia or Astute class nuclear submarines have had their hopes dashed. Documents reveal that the go-forward AUKUS design will be based on an enlarged Collins Class submarine. The new class of submarine will be almost as large as the French Barracuda design (or in other words…. smaller)
Pity you did not read the entire "article" and check/recognise the significance of the date.
Gne .
(Naval news, April 1st)
Australians expecting that their Navy will get Virginia or Astute class nuclear submarines have had their hopes dashed. Documents reveal that the go-forward AUKUS design will be based on an enlarged Collins Class submarine. The new class of submarine will be almost as large as the French Barracuda design (or in other words…. smaller)
Pity you did not read the entire "article" and check/recognise the significance of the date.
Gne .

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Leak Reveals First Details Of Australia’s New AUKUS Submarine "
(Naval news, April 1st)
Australians expecting that their Navy will get Virginia or Astute class nuclear submarines have had their hopes dashed. Documents reveal that the go-forward AUKUS design will be based on an enlarged Collins Class submarine. The new class of submarine will be almost as large as the French Barracuda design (or in other words…. smaller)
Pity you did not read the entire "article" and check/recognise the significance of the date.
Gne .
(Naval news, April 1st)
Australians expecting that their Navy will get Virginia or Astute class nuclear submarines have had their hopes dashed. Documents reveal that the go-forward AUKUS design will be based on an enlarged Collins Class submarine. The new class of submarine will be almost as large as the French Barracuda design (or in other words…. smaller)
Pity you did not read the entire "article" and check/recognise the significance of the date.
Gne .
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...

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https://www.politico.eu/article/us-u...rsonic-weapon/
US, UK, Australia team up on hypersonic weapons with eye on Russia and China
LONDON — The U.S., the U.K. and Australia will start joint work on hypersonic missile technology and electronic warfare capabilities under the umbrella of the AUKUS security pact.….
US, UK, Australia team up on hypersonic weapons with eye on Russia and China
LONDON — The U.S., the U.K. and Australia will start joint work on hypersonic missile technology and electronic warfare capabilities under the umbrella of the AUKUS security pact.….



