Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 19th Apr 2023, 13:38
  #16401 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Yakima
Posts: 627
Received 290 Likes on 121 Posts
Originally Posted by 212man
I think the point is that the term 'storm' implies speed, so 'storming slowly' is oxymoronic.....
Yes, but when one comes storming in one is also showing great anger........
Winemaker is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 14:00
  #16402 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: 75' from the runway edge and 150' from the threshold
Age: 74
Posts: 250
Received 32 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by 212man
7219 and the Typhoons just flew over my office! I see the Italian G550 is also busy in the are today.

Should be with you shortly, 7219s just going feet dry and the tiffies are reacquainting with 9954
Strange world these days. 212 man is in his office in Constanta and i’m in my wee home office in N’orn Ir’n giving him a heads up on a possible overflight.
A342

Last edited by ACW342; 19th Apr 2023 at 14:04. Reason: added a bit
ACW342 is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 15:19
  #16403 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,386
Received 386 Likes on 223 Posts
Originally Posted by ACW342
Should be with you shortly, 7219s just going feet dry and the tiffies are reacquainting with 9954
Strange world these days. 212 man is in his office in Constanta and iím in my wee home office in Níorn Irín giving him a heads up on a possible overflight.
A342
I heard them but didnít look them up - lost its novelty! Often see them at night and also dusk, when their contrails are lit up by the sunset and their curved orbital paths highlighted.
212man is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 16:46
  #16404 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 242
Received 213 Likes on 89 Posts
For goodness sake Nutloose, post something. Anything.
bugged on the right is offline  
The following 3 users liked this post by bugged on the right:
Old 19th Apr 2023, 17:20
  #16405 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,386
Received 386 Likes on 223 Posts
Originally Posted by bugged on the right
For goodness sake Nutloose, post something. Anything.
Sorry to bore you! I find it quite a privilege to be able to see the combined multinational surveillance activities taking place every day. Literally whilst walking to the pub, theyíre flying overhead. The area Iím staying in is also populated by about 85% Ukrainian refugees, which adds another dimension to my perspective.
212man is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 17:27
  #16406 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,557
Received 3,319 Likes on 1,381 Posts
Sorry been under the weather today,

More bloody American traitors, the really need to try them all for treason and throw the keys away.

https://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/...-boys/?ref=rss

A series of confidential documents from the US Pentagon have been leaked on a Discord server, with these documents pertaining to US surveillance of both its allies and enemies. The documents include spying on key allies across the globe such as South Korea, Israel and the Ukraine. What is interesting about all these countries is that they are all embroiled by diplomatic or military conflict (South Korea is dealing with increased military provocations from its northern neighbour, Israel is dealing with Palestinian dissidents, and Ukraine is defending itself from a Russian invasion that has already commenced for a year ever since its beginning in late February 2022. The documents also show that the USA has penetrated the Russian Ministry of Defense and the Russian mercenary organisation Wagner Group mainly through intercepted communications and human sources, which could now be compromised or cut off entirely. They also detail key weaknesses in Ukrainian weaponry, air defence, and battalion sizes and readiness at a time when Ukrainian forces are preparing to launch a counteroffensive against the Russians. As a result, this has put Ukraine and Americaís mutually trusting relationship over intelligence-sharing into some doubt, although according to a source close to Ukrainian President Zelenskyy this has been anticipated by the countryís intelligence units. Nevertheless, it has ruffled the feathers of the diplomats of the countries involved in the leaks, given that this could potentially fuel negative sentiment towards the USA as an Ďimperialistí nation, an agenda which is being pushed in US enemy countries such as North Korea.

​​​​​​​
NutLoose is offline  
The following 2 users liked this post by NutLoose:
Old 19th Apr 2023, 17:37
  #16407 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,386
Received 386 Likes on 223 Posts
Originally Posted by NutLoose
Sorry been under the weather today,

More bloody American traitors, the really need to try them all for treason and throw the keys away.

https://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/...-boys/?ref=rss
Itís extraordinary how readily people have access in the first place. The last guy was an airman in the ANG FFS. Itís not even a federal organisation in normal times - itís a state militia - and heís part time. Iím damn sure a private in the British TA or Airman (whatever theyíre called these days) in the auxRAF would have zero access to anything remotely similar.
212man is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Old 19th Apr 2023, 17:41
  #16408 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,557
Received 3,319 Likes on 1,381 Posts
Nukem Dukem is out and about spouting his crap, this time to the Ukrainians.

​​​​​​​

NutLoose is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 18:01
  #16409 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,557
Received 3,319 Likes on 1,381 Posts
Odd that this Wagner muppet announces Ukrainian troop reinforcements along with a cocktail of different artillery systems preparing to attack them, yet they do not appear to actually be doing anything about it

​​​​​​​
NutLoose is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 18:35
  #16410 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Everett, WA
Age: 69
Posts: 4,554
Received 323 Likes on 157 Posts
Speaking of traitors:
tdracer is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 18:40
  #16411 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Den Haag
Age: 57
Posts: 6,386
Received 386 Likes on 223 Posts
The Air Guard guy who leaked the documents was an IT person - you know, maintaining the computers and network, and making sure the documents were properly backed up and so on. Which is why he had the clearance to see such things - he just abused
Thatís ok then. Part time state militia junior rank has access to global federal secrets. ďBacked upĒ? Where is that in his job description?
212man is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 19:32
  #16412 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,557
Received 3,319 Likes on 1,381 Posts
Norwegian troops honour their trainees as they depart back to Ukraine.

NutLoose is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 19:39
  #16413 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,557
Received 3,319 Likes on 1,381 Posts
The start of the clip could be Kursk during ww2

​​​​​​​
NutLoose is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 20:00
  #16414 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,557
Received 3,319 Likes on 1,381 Posts
Well thatís a few fresh troops

​​​​​​​
NutLoose is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 21:43
  #16415 (permalink)  
fdr
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: 3rd Rock, #29B
Posts: 2,986
Received 926 Likes on 271 Posts
Originally Posted by Winemaker
From his rant...
The irony.... Here's a picture of his son....
Lord Hee Haw got a son? That is unexpected.
fdr is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 21:50
  #16416 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Worcestershire
Posts: 149
Received 11 Likes on 8 Posts
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-65328794

hmm,
MJ89 is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 21:54
  #16417 (permalink)  
fdr
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: 3rd Rock, #29B
Posts: 2,986
Received 926 Likes on 271 Posts
Originally Posted by NutLoose
Stepping on a mine. One of their own? as they are a Russian design



https://twitter.com/MSUAYOUTUBE/stat...05863341424640
F-Troop rides again.

The boy is lucky, he might live to live again. With a limp and a story for his grandkids about his part in the great criminal action of Putin in Putins war of 1999-[fill in the blank] Putin has attacked and murdered in neighbouring countries, starting from his elevation as a Bata shoe salesman in Wellington NZL (pronounced willingtun, feller) to his rise to PM on 19AUG99 and the maskirovska attack on the apartments in Moscow on 4SEP99.... gotta say he was enthusiastic about being a criminal.

Today, Transnistria... so, keeping Lord Vladimort and his cronies at arms length seems to be worthwhile.
fdr is offline  
Old 19th Apr 2023, 23:13
  #16418 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: England
Posts: 64
Received 100 Likes on 59 Posts
Originally Posted by pattern_is_full
The Air Guard guy who leaked the documents was an IT person - you know, maintaining the computers and network, and making sure the documents were properly backed up and so on. Which is why he had the clearance to see such things - he just abused the privilege.
Doesn't need access to the plain text documents to do that. Lazy and/or self important IT people will tell you that they do, but they don't. They can quite happily backup the encrypted files without ever knowing the decryption keys. And *somebody else* can backup the keys. Similarly perfectly possible to maintain the network without being able to read the traffic.

For real world analogies - my postman can deliver letters without opening the envelope and your tank mechanic can swap the oil without ever knowing the precise chemical makeup of the oil.
Abrahn is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Old 20th Apr 2023, 05:23
  #16419 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,557
Received 3,319 Likes on 1,381 Posts
Update on the state of play from Ukraine’s point of view.

NutLoose is offline  
Old 20th Apr 2023, 08:21
  #16420 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 18,121
Received 2,167 Likes on 985 Posts
The Ukrainian government announced that all promised Patriot air defense systems from the Netherlands, the US and Germany have arrived in Ukraine.



ORAC is online now  
The following users liked this post:

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.