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It differs on both sides and is based on the flag hanging on a pole at the front so is correct, the Union Jack when on an aircraft is similar, on the right side looking at it, it appear to be in reverse, ie thick white band top right as opposed to the normal top left corner, but is correct as seen on a forward flag pole... if that makes sense. The one on the current Royal helicopter is wrong.... cringe, but that’s just laziness and piss poor management.
It differs on both sides and is based on the flag hanging on a pole at the front so is correct, the Union Jack when on an aircraft is similar, on the right side looking at it, it appear to be in reverse, ie thick white band top right as opposed to the normal top left corner, but is correct as seen on a forward flag pole...
I don't suppose it will be nice and subtle like the Czech A319 below. I am expecting a union flag fin like Hawk T1s XX172 and XX238 had in the mid/late '80s(?)
. Boris might like the 2010 4FTS 50th anniversary scheme 
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In similar vein to Davef68, every time I go to LFPG the VIP aircraft remind me I live in a country where policy is often driven by envy - why one of the top ten economies in the world can't justify it is beyond me.
What they should have done originally was lease one of the surge aircraft.
Can a tanker professional enlighten me on the reasoning for using a KC3 as opposed to a KC2? Low demand for the centre hose?
On the grey front I believe the Belgian VVIP leased A321 is also grey.
I am impressed that no Marshalls' employee has been disgruntled enough to leak the scheme.
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. Boris might like the 2010 4FTS 50th anniversary scheme .In similar vein to Davef68, every time I go to LFPG the VIP aircraft remind me I live in a country where policy is often driven by envy - why one of the top ten economies in the world can't justify it is beyond me.
What they should have done originally was lease one of the surge aircraft.
Can a tanker professional enlighten me on the reasoning for using a KC3 as opposed to a KC2? Low demand for the centre hose?
On the grey front I believe the Belgian VVIP leased A321 is also grey.
I am impressed that no Marshalls' employee has been disgruntled enough to leak the scheme.
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Whoever at Marshalls got the government to spend £900k on a repaint is hopefully getting a big bonus. It is probably 6-7x more than if should be costing hence why I’m not convinced that it’s the full story. If they’re throwing in a C check in to, it is probably justified but that is an obscene amount of money if it isn’t.
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Gotcha, I never noticed that (on iPad ), I was looking at the fin, correct, it’s wrong like Bettys chopper.
Gotcha, I never noticed that (on iPad ), I was looking at the fin, correct, it’s wrong like Bettys chopper.
Well spotted, Sycamore! I've just checked that the French flag on the port side is shown correctly in terms of the aircraft's forward motion, but it would sadly appear that no one was greatly concerned about the flag looking aesthetically correct on the starboard side.
In the same vein, on arrival in Deauvile on one of many forays across the Channel, I discovered that we had regrettably not brought our French courtesy flag, so we hoisted Flag Tango at the crosstrees instead - and no one else noticed the reversal of colours for the next ten days.......😱
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In the same vein, on arrival in Deauvile on one of many forays across the Channel, I discovered that we had regrettably not brought our French courtesy flag, so we hoisted Flag Tango at the crosstrees instead - and no one else noticed the reversal of colours for the next ten days.......😱
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Commercial repainting of a330 including strip and paint for simple to medium detailed livery (no Disney, no pokemons, no shine with multiple layers) is 200-250k USD. Design is 25-50k max but lots of outfits would design it for free in exchange to right to refer it publicly. Where 900k GBP is coming from?
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It's a 'dead cat', isn't it?
If it wasn't costing this much or the stated cost included other items, then HMG could have announced that. They haven't. Whether or not the story is accurate, this forum alone demonstrates that it will get some talking about 'Boris-bashers' and 'Remoaners' and others clearly taking an opposite view...whilst more important matters get side-lined.
If foreign governments and potential investors (the latter tending to be hard-headed) are impressed by a flashy colour-scheme and flock to do business with us on the back of it, then I couldn't help but be delighted. If not, then we'll have to export a lot more boomerangs to Australia to get the money back...and Voyager is little use for getting them there.
If it wasn't costing this much or the stated cost included other items, then HMG could have announced that. They haven't. Whether or not the story is accurate, this forum alone demonstrates that it will get some talking about 'Boris-bashers' and 'Remoaners' and others clearly taking an opposite view...whilst more important matters get side-lined.
If foreign governments and potential investors (the latter tending to be hard-headed) are impressed by a flashy colour-scheme and flock to do business with us on the back of it, then I couldn't help but be delighted. If not, then we'll have to export a lot more boomerangs to Australia to get the money back...and Voyager is little use for getting them there.
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Commercial repainting of a330 including strip and paint for simple to medium detailed livery (no Disney, no pokemons, no shine with multiple layers) is 200-250k USD. Design is 25-50k max but lots of outfits would design it for free in exchange to right to refer it publicly. Where 900k GBP is coming from?
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I could understand the price if it was also having a check, secure comms, defence fit, avionics suite update or the like.
https://www.theweek.in/news/india/20...ooks-like.html
Here's an idea, not new in some respects. Just about every nation state has a national airline, most are functionally insolvent but I digress... Why not have said national carriers occasionally, as needs be, lease a couple of their best aircraft, decked out in feather boas and/or whatever outrageous livery desired, to VIPS? Could be a marketing scheme for aforementioned state vanity project, whilst that airliner is not carrying about our moral and intellectually superior elected/appointed leaders. Imagine: "Fly the very airplane Justin the magnificent coiffed his bouffant in! Free Chrystia Freeland™ bobblehead figurine included! (for a small monthly fee charged to your credit card, no rights included...)"
Save a ton of dough and give flight crews a well paid reason to get out of bed that day.
Save a ton of dough and give flight crews a well paid reason to get out of bed that day.
A few years later a National Audit Office Report stated that more was being spent leasing aircraft from the likes of BA than it would cost to own and run the aircraft. This was the origins of Blair Force One, much as I hate to defend Blair, when on the back of this he proposed to purchase VIP aircraft again. This was abandoned following exactly the same type of press hysteria as is now appearing over this paint scheme.
‘According to an RAF source’ it will be ‘diplomatic and appropriate’ - I’m quite looking forward to a variation of the old VC10 scheme personally.
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It will be interesting to discover if this quasi-military aircraft carries the RAF roundel, or is presented as a civilian airframe.
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Well, I really don't understand all this whingeing....
A Voyager painted appropriately in national colours will be worthy VIP aircraft, although ideally there should be 2 as turning up in a grey jet would reflect badly - the DM journos would claim that "The RAF can't even manage to keep one aeroplane serviceable"...
As for the scheme, the very last thing I would wish to see would be some throwback to old Trucky Command Comet / VC10 schemes of the '60s. That would just promote an image of the UK being stuck in the past!
I hope that HM was asked for Her approval of the final design?
A Voyager painted appropriately in national colours will be worthy VIP aircraft, although ideally there should be 2 as turning up in a grey jet would reflect badly - the DM journos would claim that "The RAF can't even manage to keep one aeroplane serviceable"...
As for the scheme, the very last thing I would wish to see would be some throwback to old Trucky Command Comet / VC10 schemes of the '60s. That would just promote an image of the UK being stuck in the past!
I hope that HM was asked for Her approval of the final design?
