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RAF Poseidon - Not too long to wait?

Old 14th Feb 2020, 23:52
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I would love 205 squadron come back to life , after school watching the Shackletons coming to land at Changi .
I was only 8yrs old and used to lay on the grass slope opposite western dispersal.
Happy days .

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Old 15th Feb 2020, 08:14
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Don't worry -at the current rate it 'll be like the RN - more Admirals than ships......................
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 20:31
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The squadrons would be much more efficient, if there weren't aircraft messing up the stats. Like this award winning hospital without patients.



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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 11:46
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golder,

You gave a Russian Sub Count in response to my post about the US East Coast facing an enhanced risk due to Russian Subs.

Your numbers were far lower than mentioned in this article I ran across this morning. (Mind you I am not confident that this article is a definitive source.)

What is the size of the Russian Sub Fleet?

I was also surprised to see that the Chinese are supposed to have 74 Subs.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/5-most...s-in-the-world

A far more accurate breakdown of the Russian Navy Order of Battle

https://www.navalanalyses.com/2015/1...sian-navy.html
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 16:17
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my post of a couple of weeks ago showed remarkably small numbers of MODERN vessels in service - the naval analyses shows the Northern Fleet has only a couple of modern SSBN's and maybe 4 SSn's and that was 5 years ago.......... they may have added 3 more SSBN's to teh total fleet but generally construction slips right big time on Russian projects
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Old 13th Mar 2020, 18:03
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The RAF’s second Poseidon MRA Mk1 arrived at Kinloss Barracks today.

And then there were two!


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Old 13th Mar 2020, 18:18
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Probably daft questions, is all the kit fitted for the role and if it is fitted and working would they use the transit as a training opportunity?
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 06:19
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Originally Posted by SASless
golder,

You gave a Russian Sub Count in response to my post about the US East Coast facing an enhanced risk due to Russian Subs.

Your numbers were far lower than mentioned in this article I ran across this morning. (Mind you I am not confident that this article is a definitive source.)

What is the size of the Russian Sub Fleet?

I was also surprised to see that the Chinese are supposed to have 74 Subs.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/5-most...s-in-the-world

A far more accurate breakdown of the Russian Navy Order of Battle

https://www.navalanalyses.com/2015/1...sian-navy.html
I think you have me mixed up with someone else. Those are interesting links though.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 09:20
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Great news that soon UK will have MPA again - good luck to all involved.

Two questions:

1.at what altitude will it normally operate on station ? In the UK weather flying for hours in IMC/ turbulance/ icing sounds b uncomfortable! Will it have the the option to operate VMC at low levels for extended periods?

2. What will be its minimum speed manoevering over a datum? Slow is good! The Nimrod VMD was 200-225 knots which made it difficult to return to 'on top 'quickly! Presumably with its swept wings itha P8 will need to fly even faster?
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 09:25
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Flap1, 210 kts.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 12:24
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On Saturday 7 March, a spotter website (Fighter Control) reported that an A400M (ZM405, callsign RRR4998) departed Brize at around 08:20 and descended to low-ish level (4000ft) over the Celtic Sea, returning to base about seven hours later. RTB now at 15:14. It was said to have been "on maritime recon ops, 160nm SW of Lands End."

Which would seem to be a similar area to that attracting the interest of Russian Naval Aviation on the same day.......

Wonder why they used an A400M and not the newly delivered P-8?



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Old 15th Mar 2020, 12:59
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Perhaps because UK P-8A have not reached IOC yet (as planned) and therefore have not declared a capability for operational use?
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AW

Nimrod could manoevre more slowly with flaps BUT not a good idea because of fuel burn and possible long term fatigue problems?
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Why is the Poseidon designated MRA mk1 while the Lightning II remains the F35? Surely it should be FGR1 or similar?
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Why is the Poseidon designated MRA mk1 while the Lightning II remains the F35? Surely it should be FGR1 or similar?

Technically speaking, it is Lightning rather than Lightning II in UK use. Has the C-17 ever has a UK C1 designation? Not sure it ever has.
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 12:33
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko
On Saturday 7 March, a spotter website (Fighter Control) reported that an A400M (ZM405, callsign RRR4998) departed Brize at around 08:20 and descended to low-ish level (4000ft) over the Celtic Sea, returning to base about seven hours later. RTB now at 15:14. It was said to have been "on maritime recon ops, 160nm SW of Lands End."

Which would seem to be a similar area to that attracting the interest of Russian Naval Aviation on the same day.......

Wonder why they used an A400M and not the newly delivered P-8?

Clearly practicing a strike against Cork - St Malo car ferries in the future................
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 00:33
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From March 30, 2020 US DOD Contracts: https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Con...ticle/2131035/

"L3 Harris Technologies Inc., Amityville, New York, is awarded a $25,867,170 firm-fixed-price contract for the production and delivery of 35 ship sets comprised of BRU-75A and BRU-76A bomb rack units (13 for the Navy; seven for the government of the United Kingdom; five for the government of Norway; four for the government of New Zealand; and six for the government of the Republic of Korea in support of P-8A Lots 9-11 aircraft deliveries."

BRU-75A - 14" suspension hooks
BRU-76A - 30" suspension hooks

See Page 10-7 and 10-8 and Figs 10-9 and 10-10
http://navybmr.com/study%20material/...4313B_ch10.pdf
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 08:20
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Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09
From March 30, 2020 US DOD Contracts: https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Con...ticle/2131035/

"L3 Harris Technologies Inc., Amityville, New York, is awarded a $25,867,170 firm-fixed-price contract for the production and delivery of 35 ship sets comprised of BRU-75A and BRU-76A bomb rack units (13 for the Navy; seven for the government of the United Kingdom; five for the government of Norway; four for the government of New Zealand; and six for the government of the Republic of Korea in support of P-8A Lots 9-11 aircraft deliveries."

BRU-75A - 14" suspension hooks
BRU-76A - 30" suspension hooks

See Page 10-7 and 10-8 and Figs 10-9 and 10-10
http://navybmr.com/study%20material/...4313B_ch10.pdf
An afterthought perhaps?
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 13:14
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On Flight Global today:-

Boeing wins $1.5bn contract for 18 P-8A patrol aircraft for South Korea, New Zealand and US Navy

A small boost to Boeing's depleted coffers.
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Old 31st Mar 2020, 18:26
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Originally Posted by superplum
An afterthought perhaps?
No - an incremental buy year by year to keep pace with P-8A production - original RFP years ago.
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