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"Death to America! Death to England! Death to Israel! Death to the infidels!"
Sounds like a morticians annual rally.......................... note they didn't mention Scotland.....
Sounds like a morticians annual rally.......................... note they didn't mention Scotland.....
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Israel obviously watching the dithering and endless retreats from facing up to Russia, in the hope of doing a money making deal, and deciding Trump is going to do the same thing with Iran.
So, as they see it as an existential threat, they’re going to do it themselves….
https://archive.ph/oyGev
Israel ‘preparing for strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities’
Israel is believed to be preparing to strike Iran, even as the US negotiates a nuclear agreement with the country.
American intelligence has intercepted communications and observed military preparations for the possible imminent strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, CNN reported.
The account comes as tensions rise between President Trump and Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister — who had been planning a strike on Iran before the US leader vetoed the idea and instead announced talks with Tehran in March.
Israel has long advocated military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities, arguing for the complete dismantlement of Tehran’s nuclear programme. It had opposed a deal reached under Barack Obama to lift sanctions on Iran in return for reduced uranium enrichment…….
Some in Israel fear that Trump could reach a deal with Iran that stops short of dismantling the programme, and instead offers a new version of the Obama deal.
“The chance of an Israeli strike on an Iranian nuclear facility has gone up significantly in recent months,” CNN quoted one source as saying. “And the prospect of a Trump-negotiated US-Iran deal that doesn’t remove all of Iran’s uranium makes the chance of a strike more likely.”
Jonathan Panikoff, a former US intelligence official, said: “At the end of the day, the Israeli decision-making is going to be predicated on US policy determinations and actions, and what agreements President Trump does or does not come to with Iran.”
American intelligence observed Israel moving air munitions and completing an exercise that could indicate a looming strike. The moves, however, could also have been intended to send a message to Iran.….
The Israeli government believes Iran has never been weaker. It has lost much of its deterrence in the region, after Israel decimated its allies Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, and rebels overthrew the Iranian ally Bashar al-Assad in Syria in December.
Israel’s government believes that they have a rare window of opportunity to deal a devastating blow to their rival Iran, but Trump is said to prefer a diplomatic deal. His Arab allies in the Gulf states have encouraged diplomacy, fearing a conflict with Iran would spill over into their countries and oil fields and upend the peace they have made with Tehran in recent years.
So, as they see it as an existential threat, they’re going to do it themselves….
https://archive.ph/oyGev
Israel ‘preparing for strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities’
Israel is believed to be preparing to strike Iran, even as the US negotiates a nuclear agreement with the country.
American intelligence has intercepted communications and observed military preparations for the possible imminent strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, CNN reported.
The account comes as tensions rise between President Trump and Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister — who had been planning a strike on Iran before the US leader vetoed the idea and instead announced talks with Tehran in March.
Israel has long advocated military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities, arguing for the complete dismantlement of Tehran’s nuclear programme. It had opposed a deal reached under Barack Obama to lift sanctions on Iran in return for reduced uranium enrichment…….
Some in Israel fear that Trump could reach a deal with Iran that stops short of dismantling the programme, and instead offers a new version of the Obama deal.
“The chance of an Israeli strike on an Iranian nuclear facility has gone up significantly in recent months,” CNN quoted one source as saying. “And the prospect of a Trump-negotiated US-Iran deal that doesn’t remove all of Iran’s uranium makes the chance of a strike more likely.”
Jonathan Panikoff, a former US intelligence official, said: “At the end of the day, the Israeli decision-making is going to be predicated on US policy determinations and actions, and what agreements President Trump does or does not come to with Iran.”
American intelligence observed Israel moving air munitions and completing an exercise that could indicate a looming strike. The moves, however, could also have been intended to send a message to Iran.….
The Israeli government believes Iran has never been weaker. It has lost much of its deterrence in the region, after Israel decimated its allies Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, and rebels overthrew the Iranian ally Bashar al-Assad in Syria in December.
Israel’s government believes that they have a rare window of opportunity to deal a devastating blow to their rival Iran, but Trump is said to prefer a diplomatic deal. His Arab allies in the Gulf states have encouraged diplomacy, fearing a conflict with Iran would spill over into their countries and oil fields and upend the peace they have made with Tehran in recent years.


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From an article in Newsweek:
Seems like the parties are at an impasse. Those of you betting on a deal being made may not see your money again.
Iran's Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on X:
"Thousands of nuclear scientists & researchers have been trained in Iran. Should we disappoint them, make them unemployed, & take away their hope in our country's future? The rude, insolent US leaders want this. They're opposed to progress & self-sufficiency for the Iranian ppl... In the current nuclear talks that are being mediated by Oman, the US's proposal is 100% against the spirit of "We can." What the US is demanding is that you should have no nuclear industry at all and be dependent on them."
U.S. President Donald Trump wrote on social media:
"Under our potential Agreement — WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY ENRICHMENT OF URANIUM!"
"Thousands of nuclear scientists & researchers have been trained in Iran. Should we disappoint them, make them unemployed, & take away their hope in our country's future? The rude, insolent US leaders want this. They're opposed to progress & self-sufficiency for the Iranian ppl... In the current nuclear talks that are being mediated by Oman, the US's proposal is 100% against the spirit of "We can." What the US is demanding is that you should have no nuclear industry at all and be dependent on them."
U.S. President Donald Trump wrote on social media:
"Under our potential Agreement — WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY ENRICHMENT OF URANIUM!"
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Let me guess what Trump will do…….. Nothing….
BREAKING 🔶
Iran’s Foreign Ministry says it has outright rejected the U.S. Nuclear deal proposal and is now “preparing a new one in its place.”
BREAKING 🔶
Iran’s Foreign Ministry says it has outright rejected the U.S. Nuclear deal proposal and is now “preparing a new one in its place.”


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I think his attention is being drawn elsewhere at the moment.



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Interesting article - and Trump actually sounds quite logical and has set out the two sides of the argument very clearly.
Not sure that a load of air strikes will make a difference tho' as the Iranians are so close to having a bomb. In fact I wonder if they may already have one or two and are waiting for a big Israeli attack as an excuse to test one
Not sure that a load of air strikes will make a difference tho' as the Iranians are so close to having a bomb. In fact I wonder if they may already have one or two and are waiting for a big Israeli attack as an excuse to test one
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Then again….
Haaretz article: https://archive.ph/KZrk5
Reports now from several other media outlets in Israel appear to confirm last night’s article from Haaretz, discussing a “heated” phone call between U.S. President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, in which Netanyahu stated the Iranians are purposefully stalling the ongoing nuclear talks and that Trump is being “played” by Tehran, while President Trump refused to give his blessing towards Israeli military action against Iranian nuclear sites and urged Netanyahu to stop any further aggressive rhetoric about striking Iran.
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From Charles Lister - a vastly informed source on Syrian/Iraqi politics and military affairs……
NEW - the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad is (per U.S. & Iraq officials) is preparing for a possible evacuation due to developing “security risks” in the Middle East.
This comes amidst whispers that a breakdown of Iran nuclear talks could result in sudden US/ and/or Israel military action.
This comes amidst whispers that a breakdown of Iran nuclear talks could result in sudden US/ and/or Israel military action.
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Things ramping up - Trump confirms troops being evacuated.
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Has the general become unstuck in time?